Author Topic: iPad...meh (Read 96753 times)

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #125 on:** February 17, 2010, 04:06:48 PM »

I owned a smart phone years before the iPhone came out. Lots of people did. Blackberry, Palm Treo, etc, were all very popular before the iPhone. I'd say the iPhone more or less tricked people into buying a smart phone.

gbuell · « **Reply #126 on:** February 17, 2010, 04:23:06 PM »

I don't know anyone who owned a Blackberry who wasn't using it primarily for work, and I don't know anyone who owned a Treo, period. I know lots of people who own iPhones who don't need them for anything work-related. I think there was a definite shift there that you aren't appreciating. And how did the iPhone "trick" anyone into doing anything?

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #127 on:** February 17, 2010, 05:29:15 PM »

No, I appreciate the shift, but I think it had much more to do with the iPod+phone than the smart phone aspect of the device. Of course, once it was jailbroken, then people started to appreciate the smart phone part. Apple couldn't give 2 shits either, since if you break a jailbroken phone they won't replace it, and your money is already in their pocket once you buy the phone, so they don't *need* to make money off the app store. I think we're getting way off subject, and the subject is iPad = meh, period.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #128 on:** February 17, 2010, 08:09:55 PM »

If you're not going to be willing to concede that the iPhone was a revolutionary product and you're going to continue to act like your personal opinion is indisputable fact, then I see no point in continuing this thread.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #129 on:** February 18, 2010, 01:00:18 AM »

I'm not acting like my opinion is fact, and like I said, a lot of people bought the iPhone. Still, as a piece of technology, it is far from revolutionary. I see no point in talking about the iPhone, unless we're pointing out how the iPad is just a big iPhone without...the phone.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #130 on:** February 18, 2010, 09:39:48 AM »

Look at it this way. Apple has created this device the other way around to everybody else: Netbooks were invented by taking standard OS' and shrinking them to 10" devices. The iPad was created by blowing up an iPod/Phone, which, in theory, provides it with all the limitations of its source material.

Maybe it will make sense in time, maybe not, but a far as i can see there is only minor differences over the iPod/Phone duo which really need to be bigger than what they are to make me deliberately want to get one. It feels like more of a "natural extension" (gamecube to Wii, in terms of hardware) than something fresh.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #131 on:** February 18, 2010, 02:09:52 PM »

Quote from: Brandogg on February 18, 2010, 01:00:18 AM

I'm not acting like my opinion is fact, and like I said, a lot of people bought the iPhone. Still, as a piece of technology, it is far from revolutionary. I see no point in talking about the iPhone, unless we're pointing out how the iPad is just a big iPhone without...the phone.

When I said you're acting like your opinion is fact, that was in regard to you constantly saying the iPad sucks as if that's not up for debate, disregarding what anyone else might think.

Also, the 3G iPad is a big iPhone, not a big iPod Touch. The iPhone has 4 things that a Touch doesn't--a cellular modem, a GPS chip, an internal microphone, and a camera--and the 3G iPad has 3 of them (and possibly all 4 if you believe some of the rumors).

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #132 on:** February 19, 2010, 09:02:06 PM »

The next iPod touch will probably have all of that stuff. If they added everything all at once, there would be no reason to buy a new one every year. Look, I'm not going to be happy until I convince you that is sucks and you shouldn't buy one, ever.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #133 on:** February 19, 2010, 09:15:43 PM »

Well then I guess you should get used to being unhappy, because I'm very excited for it and am doing everything I can to be able to afford one as soon as possible, and I don't think it would be possible for you to say or do anything that would get me to change my mind.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #134 on:** February 19, 2010, 10:54:44 PM »

Get a netbook, they're faster, (typically) cheaper, support Flash, have upgradeable memory, USB ports, you can buy a 3G card and use whatever network you want (without a contract, if you wish), can do everything else the iPad can do...

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #135 on:** February 19, 2010, 11:11:27 PM »

I don't want a netbook, not even if I could get it to run OS X. I don't want a shrunk down version of a desktop OS, and I want the interface the iPad brings to the table. I don't care about Flash; I haven't missed it on my iPhone and the only reason I might want it is Hulu, which is rumored to be working on an iPad app. (edit: Silverlight would definitely be nice, though, as I use Netflix streaming all the time) I must also live in the only city in the country where AT&T is great; I have no complaints with them. I suppose something like an SD card slot would be nice, but there are workarounds, and if I really want it I can get the photo adapter for the iPad which lets you connect an SD card to it. I realize there are devices that do everything the iPad does and more; my concern is how well it does what it does, and based on what I've seen of it and my time with an iPhone, I'm convinced the iPad will do what it does very, very well.

gbuell · « **Reply #136 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:08:52 AM »

Netbooks are faster? Really? First off, very few people have even touched an iPad, so it's tough to say how fast it is, but every hands-on impression that's out there says it SCREAMS.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #137 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:18:11 AM »

Quote from: NWR_Grant on February 20, 2010, 01:08:52 AM

Netbooks are faster? Really? First off, very few people have even touched an iPad, so it's tough to say how fast it is, but every hands-on impression that's out there says it SCREAMS.

Yeah, I didn't address that point because I haven't used an iPad and thus can't speak to it, but I'm guessing neither has Brandogg. The speed of my iPhone 3G is fast enough for me; the 3GS is much faster than that and supposedly the iPad is even faster.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #138 on:** February 20, 2010, 04:39:26 PM »

Screams at what though? It was built to do what it does, so of course, the limited things that it does, it will do pretty well. There's no debating that. Also, Hulu has been "rumored" to be making an iPod app...for about 2 years. Another good thing about netbooks is they are not tied down to their OS, you can install any version of Windows you want, Linux, etc, and I think I've seen a few that can run OSX as well.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #139 on:** February 20, 2010, 06:48:04 PM »

I want the touch interface of the iPad, though. I'd prefer it ran a version of OS X optimized for that interface, a fusion of what the iPad is and what a ModBook is, but that doesn't exist, and to me the iPad is the next best thing.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #140 on:** February 20, 2010, 10:57:47 PM »

I guess one positive thing is that you can control the entire system with your penis. I never thought of that before.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #141 on:** February 20, 2010, 11:27:55 PM »

See, you're beginning to warm up to it already.

gbuell · « **Reply #142 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:51:48 AM »

Exactly, think of how this will revolutionize the porn industry.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #143 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:12:31 AM »

Actually, since it's multi-touch, you're going to need multiple penises for that to work.

Shaymin · « **Reply #144 on:** February 21, 2010, 09:28:45 AM »

... excuse me, I have to gouge out my mind's eye right now.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #145 on:** February 21, 2010, 10:39:16 AM »

Quote from: insanolord on February 20, 2010, 06:48:04 PM

I want the touch interface of the iPad, though. I'd prefer it ran a version of OS X optimized for that interface, a fusion of what the iPad is and what a ModBook is, but that doesn't exist, and to me the iPad is the next best thing.

I'm kinda stubborn on this point. I don't want the next best thing. My money is effectively their reward for making a product i want. Not a product that comes close to what i want. And given the, to-be-announced-but-likely-wallet-stealing UK prices it's going to have to be bang on and not just-about.

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #146 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:54:05 PM »

I'm late to this thread, but it's nice to see that the iPad has turned friends into foes much like it did on Twitter with Obi, Andy and myself. Also, important note: Twitter is the worst medium for a nerd fact war, ever.

GearBoxClock · « **Reply #147 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:55:52 PM »

I don't like the fact that this will sell a huge amount despite lacking several key features that laptops of slightly higher prices have. Like multitasking and not having to deal with iTunes.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #148 on:** February 21, 2010, 06:37:29 PM »

Quote from: NWR_Lindy on February 21, 2010, 12:54:05 PM

I'm late to this thread, but it's nice to see that the iPad has turned friends into foes much like it did on Twitter with Obi, Andy and myself. Also, important note: Twitter is the worst medium for a nerd fact war, ever.

I'm going to have to disagree with that; the 140 character limit makes it impossible, or at least a lot harder, for someone to post a wall of text, and fewer walls of text is in everyone's best interest.

Quote from: GearBoxClock on February 21, 2010, 12:55:52 PM

I don't like the fact that this will sell a huge amount despite lacking several key features that laptops of slightly higher prices have. Like multitasking and not having to deal with iTunes.

I have no evidence to back it up, but I've got a feeling that multitasking is going to be in iPhone OS 4.0, which should be coming out within 6 months. As for iTunes, I know on OS X there are several pieces of software that let you load media onto an iPod or iPhone without going through iTunes, and with the App Store on the device itself you wouldn't need to sync with iTunes unless you were backing the device up or upgrading the firmware.

Stogi · « **Reply #149 on:** February 21, 2010, 08:05:11 PM »

It's funny. My brother's birthday is around the corner and his girlfriend said she would buy an iPad for him if he really wanted one. So my brother considered it. He already has an iPhone and he was wondering what was being brought to the table other than a bigger screen (which he admits, is nice).

Anyway, he saw what Tosh.O did and couldn't help but agree.

My point is, he was given the chance to have an iPad -- FOR FREE -- and he passed it up.

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