As far as "understanding" the Wii audience, I'm not even entirely sure NINTENDO understands the Wii audience, considering games like Excitebots have failed at retail just like some of the third party games we're talking about.
Well then why do third parties continue to act like Nintendo's got a secret line in to their customers if even Nintendo doesn't know? And why does Nintendo not throw a PR temper tantrum when they do have a titles that fails?
Where's the outrage over that?
Nintendo didn't blame us...?
And rather, it's not that I'm surprised that you're upset that third parties seem to make mistake after mistake, but when this thread reached it's ELEVENTH page in about a week, the tone goes from "sour grapes" to absolutely enraged.
It's obviously a hot button issue that isn't going away. People are rightfully enraged at being blamed for third party games selling poorly when they make awful games, when they make spinoff games in lieu of real effort, poorly market them, and blame Nintendo, Wii Owners, and the economy instead of their obviously crummy games.
If this community was really thirsting for a AAA 3rd party Wii game, then they'd be too busy playing Silent Hill to get this thread to 11 pages in the course of 10 days. Once again, I maintain that they don't really want any game that doesn't fit into Nintendo's ideology, which is almost every third party title out there not named EA Sports Active.
Apparently Nintendo's ideology is wide enough to Include Wii Sports, Wi Fit, Zelda, Mario Galaxy, NSMBWii, SSBB, Resident Evil 4, and Metroid. All of which have performed similar or better than EA Sports Active (And definitely better than the Sequel).
this thread isn't about isolating a single good game and saying "aha! That redeems them." This whole thread started because of PR from third parties blaming Nintendo, Wii, and its owners for poor sales, and Pro just thought he'd analyze all the third party libraries and see who actually has a legitimate complaint. Who did the best with their brandnames and who created the best environment for their games to sell. Naturally, nobody really did other than Nintendo. While it is nice that, for a few titles, they may have deigned to pay attention, but their flood of shovelware definitely factors into why they underperformed.
Nintendo obviously, doesn't have that problem, because they've made good games the whole time. Even their "worst" titles, even the ones labeled the most "casual" are leagues ahead of most of the third parties' crap.
Who CARES about the shovelware? EVERY system has shovelware. It's our job as a website, and your job as a gamer who cares about playing unique original titles, to filter through it and point out what is worth playing.
3rd parties should care about shovelware. They're ruined their brandnames in front of the largest audience making any effort they make meet with suspicion, and their shovelware didn't sell to boot. And it's not my "Job" To MAKE the third parties' games a success. They have to make good games first. Why is it all on the gamer, again?
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This situation is what Nintendo wants, because it ensures theyget the lion's share of all software sales on the console (as well asraking it in on the hardware sales side). With all the buddingbusiness mavens on these boards, why is anybody complaining? This issimply good business.
Nitnendo doesn't just have the best software sales on the Wii. They have the best software sales, period. I also think we're not so concerned with Nintendo. They'll be fine (Boy will they.) We're more concerned with the third parties' business rationale for flooding the Wii with crap nobody wanted or bought while saying the whole tiem that they do. Shareholders for these companies are probably screaming at them right now, especially after Nintendo broke the one month console record in December. Nintendo looks good, as always.
They look like chumps and idiots.
Besides, Nintendo gets royalties for third party games too. It is good business to try and get them on board as well. And Nintendo thought they had it with an excitable product, an insanely large userbase, and easy development. But third parties turned on the floodgates, threw pity parties when the "casual Wii owners" strangely stopped buying all their casual shovelware. It's not really what Nintendo wanted, but it ended up that way and Nintendo didn't have to do a thing other than leave Third parties to make the games they wanted to (garbage) and Nintendo to continue to make quality games That people buy in droves. Apparently making good games is good business.