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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2009, 04:18:28 PM »
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More emphasis on story and open-world environments is the exact opposite of what Star Fox should be.

I had already made peace with the fact that Star Fox was dead and Sin & Punishment 2 was the closest we were going to get on the Wii. Damn you, Miyamoto; damn you for giving me hope.

Miyamoto: We're not sure if there is still a market or audience for a new entry in the Star Fox franchise, so we made Sin & Punishment 2 as a test. If Sin & Punishment 2 sells well, we might bring over a new version of Star Fox for the Wii gamers.

If the chances of a new Star Fox depend on the sales of Sin & Punishment 2 then Star Fox is truly dead.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2009, 04:18:56 PM »
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2009, 04:15:42 PM
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More emphasis on story and open-world environments is the exact opposite of what Star Fox should be.

I had already made peace with the fact that Star Fox was dead and Sin & Punishment 2 was the closest we were going to get on the Wii. Damn you, Miyamoto; damn you for giving me hope.

Miyamoto: We're not sure if there is still a market or audience for a new entry in the Star Fox franchise, so we made Sin & Punishment 2 as a test. If Sin & Punishment 2 sells well, we might bring over a new version of Star Fox for the Wii gamers.

I wouldn't mind if they just swapped out S&P2's characters with 2 versions of Krystal and called it a rebooted StarFox (meow~~~) franchise.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2009, 04:24:59 PM »
I have to agree with the majority opinion here: Star Fox does not need an emphasis on story.  I do think, however, that it does need an emphasis on storytelling, and yes there is a difference.  Look at the original Star Wars, which Star Fox often gets compared to: the story itself is very simple and straightforward ("young farmboy gets pulled into a massive battle between a tyranical Empire and a Rebel Alliance"), but what enraptured people was how the story was told; the characters; and the universe it suggested.  We don't need a big elaborate story in a new Star Fox with piles of cutscenes, but the story it has has to be told well and told earnestly.  That's something we haven't gotten in a Star Fox game in quite a long time, especially in Command.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2009, 04:28:56 PM »
Story's not important. What's important, as Star Fox 64 proved, is coming up with lines of dialogue that will be quoted as internet memes for years and decades to come.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2009, 04:38:21 PM »
Quote from: insanolord on October 29, 2009, 04:28:56 PM
Story's not important. What's important, as Star Fox 64 proved, is coming up with lines of dialogue that will be quoted as internet memes for years and decades to come.

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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2009, 06:29:06 PM »
Quote from: EasyCure on October 29, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: insanolord on October 29, 2009, 04:28:56 PM
Story's not important. What's important, as Star Fox 64 proved, is coming up with lines of dialogue that will be quoted as internet memes for years and decades to come.

^You gonna listen to this MONKEY?!

^Your father used to help me like that too!
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2009, 08:32:43 PM »
Quote from: Armak88 on October 29, 2009, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: EasyCure on October 29, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: insanolord on October 29, 2009, 04:28:56 PM
Story's not important. What's important, as Star Fox 64 proved, is coming up with lines of dialogue that will be quoted as internet memes for years and decades to come.

^You gonna listen to this MONKEY?!

^Your father used to help me like that too!

^Do a Barrel Roll!

Seriously, I'm disappointed in you lot for not starting with that one.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2009, 08:41:41 PM »
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2009, 09:07:12 PM »
Quote from: broodwars on October 29, 2009, 08:32:43 PM
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Quote from: EasyCure on October 29, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
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Story's not important. What's important, as Star Fox 64 proved, is coming up with lines of dialogue that will be quoted as internet memes for years and decades to come.

^You gonna listen to this MONKEY?!

^Your father used to help me like that too!

^Do a Barrel Roll!

Seriously, I'm disappointed in you lot for not starting with that one.

We were just avoiding the obvious,
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2009, 11:57:59 PM »
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2009, 10:09:29 AM »
Quote from: Armak88 on October 29, 2009, 09:07:12 PM
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Quote from: Armak88 on October 29, 2009, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: EasyCure on October 29, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: insanolord on October 29, 2009, 04:28:56 PM
Story's not important. What's important, as Star Fox 64 proved, is coming up with lines of dialogue that will be quoted as internet memes for years and decades to come.

^You gonna listen to this MONKEY?!

^Your father used to help me like that too!

^Do a Barrel Roll!

Seriously, I'm disappointed in you lot for not starting with that one.

We were just avoiding the obvious,
"Oh look I've been saved by fox, isn't that swell!"

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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2009, 11:01:41 AM »
well i guess im alone.  but then again so are the 4 people who bought the last 2 star fox games.  face it this series needs a jolt in the arm or its going to just die.  every one was pissed with metroid prime and that direction, until they played it.  i promise if you give me 1.5 years and a decent sized team and i can have starfox both re-imagined... and re-energized. 
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2009, 11:26:26 AM »
Quote from: walkingdead on October 30, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
well i guess im alone.  but then again so are the 4 people who bought the last 2 star fox games.  face it this series needs a jolt in the arm or its going to just die.  every one was pissed with metroid prime and that direction, until they played it.  i promise if you give me 1.5 years and a decent sized team and i can have starfox both re-imagined... and re-energized. 

You're not alone for wanting it.. just alone amongst this forum :P Now I still don't agree that SF needs to be some crazy massive space-epic but I do agree that it needs a jolt in the arm.. just not too much of a jolt. Too much and you end up with Chris Redfields arm's in RE5 :P

A re-imagining is probably too much to ask for, hell i don't think the series even deserves a reboot to be honest, just a GOOD game in the series to forget all the bad ones. This can be done simply by sticking to the formula AND fixing what was broken in the last few SF games (the parts that worked anyway) and of course this can only be done if Nintendo makes the game themselves. At least this is the one point we can definately agree on.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2009, 11:34:33 AM »
Does anybody have any recommendations for games like Star Fox?  Preferably like the SNES iteration.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2009, 12:01:27 PM »
Quote from: MegaByte on October 30, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
Does anybody have any recommendations for games like Star Fox?  Preferably like the SNES iteration.

You mean terrible with lots of pop up? Hmmm, can't help you out. ;)
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2009, 12:01:48 PM »
You know its funny because I have never ever played a game like Star Fox at all. Sin and Punishment 2 looks like a Star Fox type game but thats in the future. I don't know what part 1 was like, I guess I should get it.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2009, 12:05:41 PM »
S&P isn't much like Star Fox other than forwarding-viewing rail shooting.  Star Fox (especially the original) also had a lot of maneuvering around obstacles.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2009, 12:06:33 PM »
Quote from: MegaByte on October 30, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
Does anybody have any recommendations for games like Star Fox?  Preferably like the SNES iteration.
I think there was a GBA game called Star X. Same graphical style as the original Star Fox.Haven't played it but I heard it was decent.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2009, 12:07:16 PM »
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #69 on: October 30, 2009, 12:27:55 PM »
Quote from: MegaByte on October 30, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
Does anybody have any recommendations for games like Star Fox?  Preferably like the SNES iteration.

Ikaruga? :P
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2009, 01:10:19 PM »
Quote from: MegaByte on October 30, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
Does anybody have any recommendations for games like Star Fox?  Preferably like the SNES iteration.

If you happen to have access to a Saturn, Panzer Dragoon (not Saga) is very Star Fox-esque.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2009, 01:33:45 PM »
If you have an Xbox 360 I'd recommend an XBLA game called Aces of the Galaxy, or something like that.
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2009, 01:38:20 PM »
Quote from: insanolord on October 30, 2009, 01:33:45 PM
If you have an Xbox 360 I'd recommend an XBLA game called Aces of the Galaxy, or something like that.

That is the game I was trying to think of, it was a really good Star Fox clone
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #73 on: October 30, 2009, 02:02:18 PM »
Quote from: MegaByte on October 30, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
Does anybody have any recommendations for games like Star Fox?  Preferably like the SNES iteration.

Have you tried Red Alarm for VB?
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Re: Miyamoto Talks Star Fox's Dwindling Sales
« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2009, 02:09:19 PM »
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If you have an Xbox 360 I'd recommend an XBLA game called Aces of the Galaxy, or something like that.

That is the game I was trying to think of, it was a really good Star Fox clone

Yeah, I believe I bought it on your recommendation.
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