Topic: Pong Mafia MVP vote

[Stratos]

Honestly, I had three people in mind for MVP until tonight.

Vudu, Mop it up and myself.

After talking to Mop it up she convinced me to nominate GP because she relayed the information that bagged Nuclearspeed, the one we seemed most stuck about catching.

Since we could nominate two people I chose to also vote Mop it up because she was always a support to me throughout the game. She was right in her suspicions of Thatguy and how Maxi might have been tricked by him.

I don't think I deserve the MVP because I have way too much Townie blood on my hands. I ran with Stevey and very nearly drove UncleBob to the gallows. Also, the Pale vote was a huge mistake. Though I do give you half the blame for that, UB, you just acted way too suspicious. Plus remember I was the one that saved you from being voted out when Thatguy was pushing for your bandwagon and driving it to Dasmos instead. So I guess we're even there, but you still get a poison mushroom for not saving GP

Plus I just faded in and out of relevance too much during the games due to my crazy work hours and getting time zones horribly wrong.

So Vote for Mop it up and GP

Special nod to Vudu for putting GP's clues together.

[that Baby guy]

Stratos, whoa!

Now I see what's happened.  Things are much clearer.  The vote for UncleBob and/or Dasmos wasn't intended as bandwagon vote to kill!  It was in order to entice out information!  Or at least, this time that was the cover.  Typically, a roled player can save himself from the vote by just claiming he or she has a role.  A large-ish group of people can determine information by hurling enough votes at someone in the game and forcing townies to make specific admissions or forcing the mafia to wet themselves.  Dasmos then went and got sarcastic and cynical, and I let the confusion occur, but still, the goal was never to vote out anyone in particular.

In truth, the hope was to find the doctor, UncleBob.  Of course, it wasn't to kill the fella.  Honestly, I wouldn't have told oohhboy who he was until necessary, so I wouldn't blow my cover.  I'd just say who NOT to kill, to avoid doctor protections.  Or, you know, pull a vudu and have the doctor protect me and get hit, virtually solidifying my cover.  One of those.

What's funny, though, is that I use this scare tactic as a townie, or used to, a lot.  It's a great way to make Day 1 be very meaningful, if you've got the time and people who'll work with you.  The truth is, Dasmos wouldn't have died that day had he not been sarcastic.  I would've had a "hunch" or a "feeling" that he wasn't mafia, supported it by saying he really didn't seem to care about the votes, and then moved on to someone else, honestly, probably you, for the day's vote.  In the end, you take the blame for targeting someone, I say "If he is mafia, we'll need to reconsider Mop_it_up for what happened on Day 1," and it looks like I'm really trying and just mistaken.  Now, Dasmos owes me one, when he gets voted out/hit later, I look like a good guy in a sense, and things like that.

Just a little insight at how I had planned the events to happen, even though they didn't occur that way.  And honestly?  Had I not been mafia, I wouldn't have realized the sarcasm in Dasmos's message, in most cases.

[Stratos]

I think I took too literally what you said to me about 'either one working' or something to that effect. I assumed you were OK with switching so suddenly because either was a townie and so voting out either of them would have accomplished your goals.

[that Baby guy]

I was seriously beginning to wonder what I had done to be so detectable!  Now that I realize it was a misunderstanding, things make a whole lot more sense.  I'm glad you said all that.  I thought I'd lost my touch.

Well.  There you have it.  A mafia game changed in a small misunderstanding.  You all were lucky this time around, but next time, Gadget...

Mwuahahahahahaha.



MROOWOWOWRR

[Mop it up]

You're looking into things too much Thatguy. I thought you were Mafia simply because you were trying harder than when you were a townie.

"If he is mafia, we'll need to reconsider Mop_it_up for what happened on Day 1,"

Why would you have moved on to me? What did I do on day 1 besides not vote out someone who was obviously a townie?

[that Baby guy]

You're looking into things too much Thatguy. I thought you were Mafia simply because you were trying harder than when you were a townie.

"If he is mafia, we'll need to reconsider Mop_it_up for what happened on Day 1,"

Why would you have moved on to me? What did I do on day 1 besides not vote out someone who was obviously a townie?

I don't think you understand:  I could simply just suggest that the two of you set-up the Stratos vote-out scare thing that happened on Day One, that's all.  I'd be wrong, of course, and it wouldn't be a valid set-up from after that, so you'd be fine, it would just make it seem like I didn't know who was mafia and who wasn't, stuff like that.

[Mop it up]

Oh, I forgot about that incident. You like to create something out of nothing.

[that Baby guy]

Always.

[oohhboy]

Now that it's over, I can come out with some background info as to what happened till I died.

1. Kush - I am not sorry, I really did kill you for shits and giggles. There was no reason for you to die. Had I known Thatguy had set up an intel network that had included your name, I would have found someone more interesting to waste.

2. Maxi - More of the same, I had no idea that he was talking to Thatguy. I, not Maxi, but it only dawned who GP was during that night.

3 Plugabugz - Plain lucky hit. No intel.There was a vibe coming off him, he came off a little guarded for a townie. However, I should have hit GP first that night as I got some new intel, but I didn't act on it till the next day.

4. GP - The was a classic, under the table mexican stand off. I knew I slipped last nights vote. I had to go down fighting. I also knew the doctor was pretty dumb to the fact at this point, so I knew GP was a goner.

Had thatguy survived another day, I reckon we would have had every role uncovered by the next day. A mafia win would have been unstoppable  at that point. Unfortunately, my slip up had cost us the game. It put the mafia in check and a coin toss away from checkmate.

All, in all, this has been my best game so far. I have enjoyed how basic this game is. Bravo Drew.

[BeautifulShy]

I was talking about my hit and Khushrenada's hit to thatguy on Day 7. I figured if you knew that thatguy had been talking with me and Khushrenada we wouldn't be hit. I probably would have caught on on day 3 so maybe it was the best choice on your part to hit me.

[Plugabugz]

3 Plugabugz - Plain lucky hit. No intel.There was a vibe coming off him, he came off a little guarded for a townie. However, I should have hit GP first that night as I got some new intel, but I didn't act on it till the next day.

So you ruined my plan. Monday and Tuesday i had pretty bad headaches and stopped in for a brief stint to answer PM's. Maxi and thatguy PM'ed me and i was talking to them, and before i could make headway (i only had the better part of an hour on each day) i got killed off.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Just a few more hours until the poll closes.

[BeautifulShy]

1 hour and a few mins till poll closes.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Congrats to GP on her MVP win! 

[UncleBob]

I can't believe I got three votes.  Neat.

Vudu only got four?  Wow.  Would have thought more.

NuclearSpeed didn't get any?  I mean, granted, he lived so long because of an oversight, but he did manage not to give himself away for awhile.

GP Won!  Yay!  It had to be her or vudu.  Her contribution is what won the game for the townies as quick as it did.

Khush was the only townie to vote for a mafia member 100% of his votes.  Of course, he died on the first day, so I suppose that's a hallow victory...

[oohhboy]

Khush was the only townie to vote for a mafia member 100% of his votes.  Of course, he died on the first day, so I suppose that's a hallow victory...

Hehe, nice and hollow.

Poor Stevey getting wasted by the townies. I had considered toasting him, but I figured from his demeanor that he had no powers and his erratic behavior worked in mafia favor.

[vudu]

GP Won!  Yay!  It had to be her or vudu.  Her contribution is what won the game for the townies as quick as it did.

I really don't want to sound like a poor sport, but I'm still in the dark about what GP's contribution was.  Everyone she investigated died immediately after except for NuclearSpeed and me.  We voted out 4 mafia members in 5 days and none of them were the result of GP's investigations.  If anything, her investigation of NuclearSpeed slowed down us finding him due to my oversight; although even then it wasn't sure that he was mafia--just a good guess.

[Stogi]

TWO VOTES! **** YES!

[Mop it up]

Congratulations GoldenPhoenix, you've earned it!

[stevey]

1. Kush - I am not sorry, I really did kill you for shits and giggles. There was no reason for you to die. Had I known Thatguy had set up an intel network that had included your name, I would have found someone more interesting to waste.

2. Maxi - More of the same, I had no idea that he was talking to Thatguy. I, not Maxi, but it only dawned who GP was during that night.

3 Plugabugz - Plain lucky hit. No intel.There was a vibe coming off him, he came off a little guarded for a townie. However, I should have hit GP first that night as I got some new intel, but I didn't act on it till the next day.

So there was no planing or thought behind any of your hits...

Oh well, at lease you did take out my least favorite player....

[oohhboy]

There was planning. It was just that during the first couple of days I would nail anybody who would look a little out of line or even remotely suspected of having a role or influence. I knew who the power players were, but I knew hitting them now would be pointless and in fact a hinderance since the probability of them picking any mafia is terribly low. Hence, I would sit back and let them bandwagon a bunch of their own townies to death.

I knew I wasn't good enough to play the intel games, at least directly, however I did have a spy master on hand who day after day with flourish me with more and more intel. Me and him had intentionally played a game where information was pretty much one way. By not telling him who I was killing for the night, he and I had a measure plausible  deniability. However, there was one oversight to the plan, he didn't tell me who he was running, and I failed to ask. That resulted in those early kills that not only wasted non role townies, but the intel network he was setting up! Never the less, he had made amazing head way, and I really do believe that another day would have resulted in the mafia finding everyone.

Everything had worked until that bandwagon. I am not sure whether he had slipped up somewhere, but from the looks of it the townies got lucky. I had that lock on GP and I knew the doc wasn't in the know. I knew this a whole game day ahead of time, but not in time for day 3.

The fact is that your first couple or so hits are going to be random and are only there to thin out the herd and/or satisfy your blood lust. A hit not made it another day the townies have to hunt and another day that the mafia has to lose.

[Stogi]

There was planning. It was just that during the first couple of days I would nail anybody who would look a little out of line or even remotely suspected of having a role or influence. I knew who the power players were, but I knew hitting them now would be pointless and in fact a hinderance since the probability of them picking any mafia is terribly low. Hence, I would sit back and let them bandwagon a bunch of their own townies to death.

I knew I wasn't good enough to play the intel games, at least directly, however I did have a spy master on hand who day after day with flourish me with more and more intel. Me and him had intentionally played a game where information was pretty much one way. By not telling him who I was killing for the night, he and I had a measure plausible  deniability. However, there was one oversight to the plan, he didn't tell me who he was running, and I failed to ask. That resulted in those early kills that not only wasted non role townies, but the intel network he was setting up! Never the less, he had made amazing head way, and I really do believe that another day would have resulted in the mafia finding everyone.

Everything had worked until that bandwagon. I am not sure whether he had slipped up somewhere, but from the looks of it the townies got lucky. I had that lock on GP and I knew the doc wasn't in the know. I knew this a whole game day ahead of time, but not in time for day 3.

The fact is that your first couple or so hits are going to be random and are only there to thin out the herd and/or satisfy your blood lust. A hit not made it another day the townies have to hunt and another day that the mafia has to lose.

*Ahem*

[oohhboy]

Look, if you don't appreciate the behind the scene look at the other side to see what work and didn't work, no problem.

But don't be dickheads about it.

[decoyman]

I think my most memorable "best plans gone awry" moment happened in... oh I don't know which one, but I was the mafia godfather. I'd infiltrated the townie alliance because I was uninvestigatable, and had pretty much all the townies' trust.

Then the killer killed me one night.

The worst part? He said he'd chosen me randomly – no motive or suspicions or strategy... just stupid luck. Doh!