Topic: Miyamoto on Expected Sales of New Super Mario Bros. Wii

[NWR_pap64]

The designer predicts long-term sales success for the new game.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20144

 According to a Games Ma-Ya manager in attendance at a retailer briefing in Japan, Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto hosted a live multiplayer session for New Super Mario Bros. Wii at the event.  Games Ma-Ya's blog offered more details on the highly-anticipated title.    

During the session, Miyamoto stated that "It's a Mario that will continue selling even after one year has passed", making reference to the original game's success on the DS, as well as the long-running sales of other Wii and DS titles.    

The Games Ma-Ya manager also mentioned the game's distinctive "red packaging". Nintendo has yet to confirm the final look of the game's box art or case.

[Ian Sane]

I'd say that kind of success is a given.  It's odd because it seems like Nintendo has some uncertainty with this title.  Weren't they concerned that E3 didn't make the proper impression?  This is THE game for the Wii this Christmas.  If it doesn't sell like hotcakes then NOTHING will.  And it's Mario and it's a platformer and it's a direct sequel to this insanely successful DS game and it's for the incredibly popular and successful Wii.  This is the definition of a slam-dunk instant hit.

And yet Miyamoto always feels the need to talk about it in an apologetic way.  "We don't think E3 gave the proper impression."  "We predict long term success."  Come on!  He says it like he's preparing excuses for poor first month sales.  This is going to be number one EASILY.

[Stogi]

It's called handling expectations.

It's always better to undersell yourself, than to oversell.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Then I guess he should brag about how its holiday sales are gonna go thru the roof and how the HD systems don't stand a chance against a 2D game running on duct-taped purple lunchboxes squished into an Oreo cream center without the cookie sides.

But he's really apologizing because he couldn't include shoe-horned online play and user-generated content functions.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I'd say that kind of success is a given.  It's odd because it seems like Nintendo has some uncertainty with this title.  Weren't they concerned that E3 didn't make the proper impression?  This is THE game for the Wii this Christmas.  If it doesn't sell like hotcakes then NOTHING will.  And it's Mario and it's a platformer and it's a direct sequel to this insanely successful DS game and it's for the incredibly popular and successful Wii.  This is the definition of a slam-dunk instant hit.

And yet Miyamoto always feels the need to talk about it in an apologetic way.  "We don't think E3 gave the proper impression."  "We predict long term success."  Come on!  He says it like he's preparing excuses for poor first month sales.  This is going to be number one EASILY.

Yeah but Nintendo is arrogant.

[Stogi]

Dude...

Making your own Mario levels? *drools*

Why did you have to mention that? Now that's all I can think about!

[NWR_pap64]

New Super Mario Bros. Wii will be a hit, regardless of what anyone says.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I really want this game.

By GP's metric, it can't be good.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I'd say that kind of success is a given.  It's odd because it seems like Nintendo has some uncertainty with this title.  Weren't they concerned that E3 didn't make the proper impression?  This is THE game for the Wii this Christmas.  If it doesn't sell like hotcakes then NOTHING will.  And it's Mario and it's a platformer and it's a direct sequel to this insanely successful DS game and it's for the incredibly popular and successful Wii.  This is the definition of a slam-dunk instant hit.

And yet Miyamoto always feels the need to talk about it in an apologetic way.  "We don't think E3 gave the proper impression."  "We predict long term success."  Come on!  He says it like he's preparing excuses for poor first month sales.  This is going to be number one EASILY.

Yeah but Nintendo is arrogant.

They really are, you have to read between the lines, but the arrogance is very prominent.

[Mop it up]

I predict that the game will sell at least 1 copy.
I'm just making a safe bet here.

[Caliban]

I'd say that kind of success is a given.

Is it really? It might be so in the rest of the world, but I can understand if they have some hesitation in Japan. We/They all thought Super Mario Galaxy would have stellar sales in Japan. Not even those commercials they had that made people see how similar SMG was to NSMB jump the sales for SMG.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I'd say that kind of success is a given.

Is it really? It might be so in the rest of the world, but I can understand if they have some hesitation in Japan. We/They all thought Super Mario Galaxy would have stellar sales in Japan. Not even those commercials they had that made people see how similar SMG was to NSMB jump the sales for SMG.

Well 1+ million sold isn't anything to sneeze at for Japan.

[Caliban]

True, but don't tell me they didn't expect to sell a lot more.

[Stogi]

I think Miyamoto should do a couple more random kidnappings just to make sure.

[Caliban]

Somebody should camp out at NCL's place with a sign that says "ready to be kidnapped by Miyamoto".

[Stogi]

Photoshop?

[Caliban]

No. Well maybe, but I meant it for real.

[Stogi]

I know. But it would still be hilarious.

[KDR_11k]

I'd say that kind of success is a given.  It's odd because it seems like Nintendo has some uncertainty with this title.  Weren't they concerned that E3 didn't make the proper impression?  This is THE game for the Wii this Christmas.  If it doesn't sell like hotcakes then NOTHING will.  And it's Mario and it's a platformer and it's a direct sequel to this insanely successful DS game and it's for the incredibly popular and successful Wii.  This is the definition of a slam-dunk instant hit.

Yet the hardcore media act like NSMBWii is a minor title compared to Galaxy 2 and Other M. Galaxy 2 will probably sell decently but not above the 10 million barrier that Nintendo sets for major titles and Other M will be a total failure and I hope Malstrom's theory that any risky Metroid also sees a traditional Metroid released at the same time holds true (I'll be going for the 2D DS Metroid over the Wii story Mangatroid, thankyou).

[Ian Sane]

Is it really? It might be so in the rest of the world, but I can understand if they have some hesitation in Japan. We/They all thought Super Mario Galaxy would have stellar sales in Japan. Not even those commercials they had that made people see how similar SMG was to NSMB jump the sales for SMG.

Nintendo are idiots to even care if Japan likes this game or not.

Population of Japan: 127,590,000
Population of the USA: 307,698,000

Over twice the size and the North American market also includes Canada.  And this will be big in Europe as well.  Japan in comparison is a small piece of the puzzle.  And Nintendo is already king of Japan with the DS anyway.  NSMB Wii could sell ZERO copies in Japan and still be a big success.  Japanese companies like Nintendo are morons for letting nationalism affect their business model, yet they get all disappointed when some game bombs in Japan but is a huge runaway hit in America.  As long as you make the moolah why do you care?

Nintendo makes tons of money in Japan and they make tons of money in North America.  What products are the cause of the success in each market doesn't really matter.  This will be successful here and that means it will be successful.

[Caliban]

Ignoring the sales from their home country... that's a bad business model.

[KDR_11k]

Is it really? It might be so in the rest of the world, but I can understand if they have some hesitation in Japan. We/They all thought Super Mario Galaxy would have stellar sales in Japan. Not even those commercials they had that made people see how similar SMG was to NSMB jump the sales for SMG.

Nintendo are idiots to even care if Japan likes this game or not.

Population of Japan: 127,590,000
Population of the USA: 307,698,000

Over twice the size and the North American market also includes Canada.  And this will be big in Europe as well.  Japan in comparison is a small piece of the puzzle.  And Nintendo is already king of Japan with the DS anyway.  NSMB Wii could sell ZERO copies in Japan and still be a big success.  Japanese companies like Nintendo are morons for letting nationalism affect their business model, yet they get all disappointed when some game bombs in Japan but is a huge runaway hit in America.  As long as you make the moolah why do you care?

Nintendo makes tons of money in Japan and they make tons of money in North America.  What products are the cause of the success in each market doesn't really matter.  This will be successful here and that means it will be successful.

Nintendo's goal for Galaxy was to make 3D Mario sell as much as 2D Mario. It failed. Now they're making a sequel out of developer pride because apparently Miyamoto somehow still thinks 3D Mario is better. And hell, the hardcore lapped it up, they went crazy for Galaxy 2 but didn't care much about NSMBW.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Is it really? It might be so in the rest of the world, but I can understand if they have some hesitation in Japan. We/They all thought Super Mario Galaxy would have stellar sales in Japan. Not even those commercials they had that made people see how similar SMG was to NSMB jump the sales for SMG.

Nintendo are idiots to even care if Japan likes this game or not.

Population of Japan: 127,590,000
Population of the USA: 307,698,000

Over twice the size and the North American market also includes Canada.  And this will be big in Europe as well.  Japan in comparison is a small piece of the puzzle.  And Nintendo is already king of Japan with the DS anyway.  NSMB Wii could sell ZERO copies in Japan and still be a big success.  Japanese companies like Nintendo are morons for letting nationalism affect their business model, yet they get all disappointed when some game bombs in Japan but is a huge runaway hit in America.  As long as you make the moolah why do you care?

Nintendo makes tons of money in Japan and they make tons of money in North America.  What products are the cause of the success in each market doesn't really matter.  This will be successful here and that means it will be successful.

Nintendo's goal for Galaxy was to make 3D Mario sell as much as 2D Mario. It failed. Now they're making a sequel out of developer pride because apparently Miyamoto somehow still thinks 3D Mario is better. And hell, the hardcore lapped it up, they went crazy for Galaxy 2 but didn't care much about NSMBW.

Well this is my opinion but I wouldn't be horribly proud of NSMB:DS

[Peachylala]

Honestly, NSMB DS wasn't bad. It was still quality gaming. However, methinks the difficulty could have been uped a bit. Hence why the Demo Play option is giving Nintendo a much needed break from appealing to casuals and at the same time trying to appeal to the whiny hardcore brats.

And NSMB Wii has Yoshi. That's 100% more awesome added to awesome.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Well it's not like Miyamoto makes games anymore.  No wonder.