Author Topic: Wii HD? (Read 13437 times)

Stogi · « **on:** July 09, 2009, 03:48:01 PM »

Caterkiller · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:00:29 PM »

I can clearly see the difference in Brawl and WW! Wow that is really nice! I wasn't on the HD bandwagon so long ago, but after seeing this, I can't wait for HD Nintendo in another 5 years or so.

kraken613 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:02:41 PM »

Wii should have been HD from the beginning. Even if it had the same general specs just out putting the picture in 720p would make a difference. Even the original Xbox could output in 720p!

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:56:11 PM »

I saw this a while back, do you have any idea what the minimum PC specs are?

Just wanna know out of curiosity.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:56:54 PM »

480p up to 720p doesn't seem that dramatic to me.

kraken613 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2009, 05:07:16 PM »

480p is not HD, 720p is HD. If yo have two TV's set up next to each other one in 480 and then one in 720 it is easy to tell the difference. When games run at a higher resolution things are always clearer and sharper.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2009, 05:37:08 PM »

480p is considered ED or Enhanced Definition

720p/1080p is HD or High Definition.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2009, 05:42:58 PM »

Really really nice. Good to see obviously.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2009, 08:09:19 PM »

It seems that there is notable slow down in the HD versions...the games just don't seem to be running as smoothly and fast in the higher resolution.

That said, this also proves that Nintendo can and probably will have the Wii 2 HD with backwards compatibility, after all if you can have all your games play already with 720p then why not in the upgrade? It would also be a huge selling point for Wii 2.

kraken613 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2009, 08:19:14 PM »

Alot of that has to do with they record with FRAPs. Record anything with it and there will be pretty good slowdown in your video. Then it all depends on the rig also. Wii games arn't really meant to be run on anything other than the Wii hardware so there isn't the same optimization.

Morari · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2009, 08:22:41 PM »

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on July 09, 2009, 04:56:11 PM

I saw this a while back, do you have any idea what the minimum PC specs are?

Just wanna know out of curiosity.

Taken directly from the developer's page:

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======= System Requirements =======
* Operating System: Microsoft Windows (2000/XP/Vista or higher) / Linux / Apple Mac OS X (Intel version).
* Processor: Any Fast CPU with SSE2 supported (recommended at least 2Ghz). Dual Core for speed boost. use cpu-z to see if your cpu supports it( and google cpu-z dont ask us!)
* Graphics: Any graphics card that supports Direct3D 9 or OpenGL 2.1.
* Your Brain: Understanding the FAQ, Forum Rules, and that we don't support Piracy.

Note: OpenGL plugin is the best working video plugin for Dolphin, do not expect great results with the Direct3D9 plugin compared to the alternate one.
Note: Direct3D9 plugin is still in the works and has more kinks than the OGL one, so expect to run into black screen, shading errors, and other graphical bugs.
Note: Dolphin is not 100% perfect at its emulation. Running into crashes, errors, and whatnot is expected!

======= Runtime Library Requirements =======
Dolphin needs you have to have the libraries listed below installed.

[Windows]
-MS Visual C++ Runtime 2008 SP1: This fixes the "side by side" / "application config" & model errors
Microsoft VC++ 2008 SP1 Redist x86 - For 32bit Windows
Microsoft VC++ 2008 SP1 Redist x64 - For 64bit Windows

-The DirectX March 2009 Runtime: This fixes the plugin loading errors
Note: THIS MEANS UPDATE YOUR DIRECTX EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE VERSION 9.0c or 10 or 10.1!!!!!!
Microsoft DirectX Updater

[Linux]
-install libbluetooth: fixes the "PANIC failed to load plugin Plugins/libPlugin_wiimote.so" error for linux users

======= Video Card Requirements =======
You must have a video card that support OpenGL 2.x fully or Direct3D 9.0c.

Note: The Direct3D9 video plugin is old/outdated and it looks like it doesn't work anymore. We recommend using the Dolphin OpenGL Video plugin for better video emulation.

Note: Make sure your drivers are up to date!
[Driver Sites]
NVIDIA Drivers
ATI Drivers

[Models that Dolphin likes]
- NVIDIA GeForce 6 to 9 Series and GeForce 200 Series
--* GeForce 6 Series
--* GeForce 7 Series
--* GeForce 8 Series
--* GeForce 9 Series
--* GeForce 200 Series
- ATI Radeon R200 to R700 Series
--* ATI Radeon Processor Generations
--* Radeon 300
--* Radeon 420
--* Radeon 520
--* Radeon 600
--* Radeon 700

[Model thats Dolphin doesn't like]
- Any Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) Chipset (These cards do not support OpenGL 2.x fully)
--* Intel Graphics Media Accelerator
- Older NVIDIA Chipsets
--* GeForce 256
--* GeForce 2
--* GeForce 3
--* GeForce 4
--* GeForce FX Series
- ATI Radeon R200 and Older
--* ATI Radeon Processor Generations
--* Radeon 100
--* Radeon 200
--* RIVA TNT
------+ RIVA TNT
--* RAGE
------+ Rage

Not too steep at all. That said, performance does vary... just like with any emulator.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2009, 08:42:51 PM »

That seems like any basic computer you could have bought for the last 5 years... Doesn't say much for Wii processing power.

I would hope that a Wii2 has full backwards compatibility with all disc based Nintendo systems with an automatic visual upgrade to a minimum of 720p.

And from what I've seen, alot of HD adopters have been unknowingly buying 720p set thinking that all HD is created equal because they found a great deal.
So I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo only planned on 720p support for the next console. I wouldn't agree with such a decision, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

King of Twitch · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2009, 09:10:10 PM »

GX still has crappy music in HD

kraken613 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2009, 09:12:48 PM »

You need a 52'' or bigger to really notice any difference in 720p and 1080p. Even though the 360 and PS3 can do 1080p almost all games just do 720p though, just look at the cases.

AV · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2009, 09:13:56 PM »

Quote from: ShyGuy on July 09, 2009, 04:56:54 PM

480p up to 720p doesn't seem that dramatic to me.

I agree. I think the video fails because it doesn't have compare and contrast. It doesn't click instantly sure it looks nice but its something to cry home about.

Quote from: Spak-Spang on July 09, 2009, 08:09:19 PM

It seems that there is notable slow down in the HD versions...the games just don't seem to be running as smoothly and fast in the higher resolution.

That's a huge concern for me. it look great but if its not as smooth frame-rate as the 'original ' it doesn't do me any good.

I do think Nintendo should release a HD Wii. This is one of the upgrades that I actually want (DSi sucks IMO ) to have Wii that is equal to 360 in graphics, can up convert stuff and has on board 20 gig storage (in addition SD card support [ so download games can now be huge ] ) have Blu-Ray support and I'll be in love.
The problem is that Nintendo might release it, but it won't mandate anything. So you will still have 80% of games only 480i. Not all games have widescreen or Progressive scan as is, some games look no better than PSP games for crying out loud.

kraken613 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2009, 09:17:18 PM »

Just keep in mind, its an emulator playing these games.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2009, 09:46:58 PM »

Quote from: Zap on July 09, 2009, 09:10:10 PM

GX still has crappy music in HD

You shut your filthy whore mouth

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2009, 10:53:17 PM »

I copied the conduit from my Wii to my USB HDD, and transferred to my laptop and played it in 1080p (and Super Smash Bros Melee), it looks absolutely amazing. Every Wii Game would look leaps and bounds better if we could simply upscale the image (via hardware). The games still can't really compare to 360/PS3, but they just look so much more crisp and you can see the detail in the textures that gets destroyed by the 480p maximum resolution.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2009, 11:07:36 PM »

pics?

kraken613 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2009, 11:11:04 PM »

You do this through the emulator? Can you PM me the links to what you used? Thanks in advanced!

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on July 09, 2009, 11:07:36 PM

pics?

Pics or it didn't happen right! haha

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2009, 11:32:38 PM »

Quote from: kraken613 on July 09, 2009, 11:11:04 PM

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on July 09, 2009, 11:07:36 PM
pics?
Pics or it didn't happen right! haha

Thats right

King of Twitch · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2009, 01:15:32 AM »

Big Blue and Fire Field GX versions are a mess, enough said

KDR_11k · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:27:41 AM »

Maybe they'll add it to the backwards compatibility of their next console, certainly doesn't make sense to release a hardware revision over something so minor especially since the hardware is tuned for the SD resolution and would probably need a bump in aspects like fillrate to keep up at HD.

Caliban · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:45:58 AM »

Quote from: kraken613 on July 09, 2009, 09:12:48 PM

You need a 52'' or bigger to really notice any difference in 720p and 1080p.

You will only notice any difference in a 1080p source for screens bigger than 60", or so I've read.

kraken613 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2009, 03:04:24 AM »

It all depends on the screen by that size. It just depends. 1080p is only for very large TV's.

So I got the emulator installed but my bluetooth is being retarded....

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Author Topic: Wii HD? (Read 13437 times)