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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2009, 11:23:41 PM »
Well, actually, the truth is that I never really got into Four Swords. And it's easy to draw the similarity between NSMBWii and Four Swords (though the history of what Nintendo's doing here also touches Mario Galaxy, Windwaker, SuperScope, and Super Mario Bros. 3). I'm not arguing whether we'll like the game or not, because by my track record, it may turn out more likely not.

The truth is that I'm trying to explore why Nintendo may have removed online or decided never to add online to the title. Let's not forget that we're dealing with a company that has talked about trying to remove "impurities," or aku, from games, and in this case it may simply be that with New Super Mario Bros. Wii, online gameplay may have been an impurity in the experience, instead of an improvement.

There's this common train of thought that more means better, that we can add features, build a longer list, tack-on more functionality and ideas, and in the end this'll make things better. Nintendo rarely subscribes to that. Instead, it may be Nintendo's restraint in their quest to produce their titles, polished gems with few or no impurities, that make them the company they are, or always have been.

Now, that doesn't do anything to sate my appetite for the next Perfect-Dark co-op mode. Co-op is something that the other guys are doing more and more in bigger and bigger ways. But at least I believe that Nintendo is doing what they believe in, and with all their heart. Any loyalty I have for the company is grounded in that trust, not in whether I liked the last Zelda game or not. (for the record: I LOVED Phantom hourglass, but was disappointed with Twilight Princess)
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2009, 02:25:16 AM »
I will almost certainly buy New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but I'll probably play it alone 80-90% of the time. I just don't know that many people locally who would want to play it with me for any length of time. Most of my friends who'd want to play a Mario game with me live far away.

Including online support (and subsequently, Wii Speak support) need not replace local multiplayer, and any claim of an either/or scenario is just silly. Miyamoto's claim of processing limitations is feasible, but having played the game myself and seen it with my own eyes, I find it hard to believe this particular title is really pushing the system's capabilities.
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2009, 02:57:33 AM »
I find it hard to believe this particular title is really pushing the system's capabilities.

I don't think it wasn't/isn't included because of this. I think it wasn't included because either they tried and thought it wasn't fun, or they wanted to use the resources elsewhere or even on a different game, or maybe even because they believed online play didn't fit the game's ideology.
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2009, 03:36:06 AM »
I find it hard to believe this particular title is really pushing the system's capabilities.

I don't think it wasn't/isn't included because of this. I think it wasn't included because either they tried and thought it wasn't fun, or they wanted to use the resources elsewhere or even on a different game, or maybe even because they believed online play didn't fit the game's ideology.

I'm betting they've realized no one plays their games online, so they don't make them online. Fortunately, they've probably also realized the online structure is the problem.
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2009, 10:22:13 AM »
I will almost certainly buy New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but I'll probably play it alone 80-90% of the time. I just don't know that many people locally who would want to play it with me for any length of time. Most of my friends who'd want to play a Mario game with me live far away.

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It just makes me sad that I'll most likely never get to play this game the way it was meant to be played (i.e. with 3 other people).

And while online play wouldn't be a perfect substitute for getting four friends together in the same room, it's a heck of a lot closer to the ideal than just one other person of considerable less skill.
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2009, 11:35:08 AM »
And while online play wouldn't be a perfect substitute for getting four friends together in the same room, it's a heck of a lot closer to the ideal than just one other person of considerable less skill.

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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2009, 03:23:58 PM »
I don't think it wasn't/isn't included because of this.

Miyamoto said that was the reason. Am I calling him a liar? Yeah, pretty much, although I still love the man.
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2009, 10:54:49 PM »
I'm guessing Miyamoto's team codes an even less efficent TCP/IP stack than Windows 95. So he probably wasn't lying so much as the team isn't very good with net code.

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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2009, 11:53:58 PM »
I’m surprised that Wii Sports Resort has bowling as well. But I guess it will be a good chance to compare how much better Wii Motion Plus works compared to the regular Wiimote. Perhaps it is now much easier to apply spin, or maybe there are some fancy throws you can do. Bowling was the favourite of Wii Sports amongst friends and family of mine so I’m looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

I know you guys were tired but c’mon, show some excitement for Super Mario Galaxy 2! How will it not be awesome?
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2009, 08:10:10 AM »
I know you guys were tired but c’mon, show some excitement for Super Mario Galaxy 2! How will it not be awesome?

If we had Lauren on, it'd be a different story. She's crazy excited for Yoshi in SMG2.

Also, I played WSR Bowling and it felt slightly different. It's one of the (few) impressions I still have to write.
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2009, 01:21:33 PM »
I'll be excited for Yoshi in Galaxy 2 when it becomes clear that he's not going to be as useless and annoying as he was in Sunshine.

Yoshi in NSMBWii is definitely great fun. (You can swallow other players!)
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2009, 03:09:05 PM »
I'll be excited for Yoshi in Galaxy 2 when it becomes clear that he's not going to be as useless and annoying as he was in Sunshine.

Yoshi in NSMBWii is definitely great fun. (You can swallow other players!)

Can you also trap them in an egg?
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2009, 03:55:07 PM »
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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2009, 07:05:21 PM »
I'll be excited for Yoshi in Galaxy 2 when it becomes clear that he's not going to be as useless and annoying as he was in Sunshine.
They didn't show Yoshi vomiting fruit juice in the trailer so at least be thankful for that.

This game is going to be as meticulously crafted as Super Mario Galaxy. Have some faith that it will all come together beautifully in the end. And who cares if it follows the same path of 120 stars? Who cares if it's a fight against Bowser once again? They could throw in some other premise but it isn't going to change the gameplay so it doesn't really matter.

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Re: Radio Free Nintendo: E3 2009 Special 1
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2009, 11:01:17 PM »
I'll be excited for Yoshi in Galaxy 2 when it becomes clear that he's not going to be as useless and annoying as he was in Sunshine.

Yoshi in NSMBWii is definitely great fun. (You can swallow other players!)

Can you also trap them in an egg?

No, but you can be a jerk and spit them into holes...*cough*
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