Topic: Super Mario Galaxy 2

[Kytim89]

Thanks Pro for that awesome high quality video. It's amazing.

Between this and Zelda Wii, It'll be hard for anything else to be considered for GOTY.

I'm still not convinced Zelda will be out this year considering there is almost zero info known about the game (not even its name).

They will probably reveal the game and its name at E3 2010.

[Stogi]

Thanks Pro for that awesome high quality video. It's amazing.

Between this and Zelda Wii, It'll be hard for anything else to be considered for GOTY.

I'm still not convinced Zelda will be out this year considering there is almost zero info known about the game (not even its name).

Then what else will Nintendo rely on for Christmas? Plus, it's been in development for about 4 years now.

[TJ Spyke]

I'm not saying it might not happen, but I am a little worried since you think they would have given us some info. The only confirmed info is that it will use Wii MotionPlus and that it will be "different" than past Zelda games.

[Stogi]

Well considering that Nintendo debut NSMB:Wii at E3 then released it in November could mean that's just how they do business.

[TJ Spyke]

NSMBW was a lot simpler though than a full fledged Zelda game.

[Stogi]

I wouldn't disagree that it was simpler, but a lot simpler? I'm not so sure. Besides, why does that even matter?

[Stratos]

It was still a major release that came out the same year it was announced. So it's very possible that Nintendo is farther along on this game than people realize.

[TJ Spyke]

I wouldn't disagree that it was simpler, but a lot simpler? I'm not so sure. Besides, why does that even matter?

Only that a full Zelda game takes a lot longer and cost more money to make than a 2D Mario. New Super Mario Bros. Wii could (and probably was) done in less than a year, while a Zelda takes several years.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I wouldn't disagree that it was simpler, but a lot simpler? I'm not so sure. Besides, why does that even matter?

Only that a full Zelda game takes a lot longer and cost more money to make than a 2D Mario. New Super Mario Bros. Wii could (and probably was) done in less than a year, while a Zelda takes several years.

Zelda has had several years in development. No doubt it was started shortly after Twilight Princess came out.

[Kairon]

New Super Mario Bros. Wii could (and probably was) done in less than a year

I highly, HIGHLY, doubt it. This is Nintendo we're talking about here.

[Dasmos]

I wouldn't disagree that it was simpler, but a lot simpler? I'm not so sure. Besides, why does that even matter?

Only that a full Zelda game takes a lot longer and cost more money to make than a 2D Mario. New Super Mario Bros. Wii could (and probably was) done in less than a year, while a Zelda takes several years.

This has absolutley no relevance to how NSMB Wii was released. So it took less time to make? They still announced it and released it in a relatively short amount of time, Nintendo also did this with Wario Land too. There are other examples too, I just can't think of them.

Just because we know nothing about the new Zelda doesn't mean there isn't anything to know, it just means Nintendo is witholding it.

[Stogi]

What in the hell? How come this image didn't surface earlier and why haven't we been talking about it?

[Stratos]

Wow. I wonder if this is a controllable sequence or if it's scripted. Or maybe you just jump up from a ledge and hold a button to grab it's legs and release the button when you want to let go and drop down.

[Stogi]

Guessing from the balloon, it could be some sort of ride.

[Stratos]

I'm actually very curious of the balloon because it makes me think of Diddy Kong Racing so I wonder if they are collectible or vital to a certain level. Like maybe you touch it and Mario 'holds' the balloon and he has to take it to a Mushroom child somewhere in the level and getting hit causes him to loose the balloon or something.

[Stogi]

Maybe, but when you include the warp star looking object in the background, it probably has to do with some sort of point system.

[that Baby guy]

New Super Mario Bros. Wii could (and probably was) done in less than a year

I highly, HIGHLY, doubt it. This is Nintendo we're talking about here.

I have to agree with you, Kairon.  From the standpoint of stage design, as well as enemy placement, and comparable things, sure, NSMBWii probably didn't take very long.  It's likely, though, that Nintendo put a few people in charge of character design, including those revitalized from prior games, and it's likely the design phases took quite a while.  I wouldn't imagine NSMBWii had a very large team until it came time to actually build the stages, and that all the concept work was done by a very small group of people, and it's likely they took a very long time to develop many present concepts.

[Dasmos]

Guessing from the balloon, it could be some sort of ride.

There's also a sort of ring thing in the background towards the bottom. I'm guessing this is one of those race levels like the manta ray level in the first one.

[Mop it up]

I wonder how feasible it would have been to have Yoshi controlled by a second player. I'm still waiting for that 2-player 3D Mario game, and if it can't be with Luigi then it might as well be with Yoshi.

[Stogi]

That would have been interesting, but how would it work. Would someone control his tongue while someone controls the rest?

[Mop it up]

I guess that could work. Maybe there could also be times when the two could split up. I don't know, I'm not a game designer. It's very possible that it wouldn't work well, but I'm still hoping that they explore ideas for a 2-player 3D Mario game someday.

[Stratos]

Having co-star mode extended to include control of Yoshi in some ways (tongue, power up usage) would be pretty neat and a nice step up for those new-to-games-so-they-have-to-play-co-star-mode type people.

[Peachylala]

New Super Mario Bros. Wii could (and probably was) done in less than a year

I highly, HIGHLY, doubt it. This is Nintendo we're talking about here.

Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker were done in a year, and it showed in the games. There is no way, AT ALL, that NSMBWii was done in a year. The EAD team had a 2.5 year span to work on it after NSMBDS, the quality in the game shows that.

[Stogi]

Wind Waker was done in a year? Why don't I believe that...

[Caterkiller]

I guess that could work. Maybe there could also be times when the two could split up. I don't know, I'm not a game designer. It's very possible that it wouldn't work well, but I'm still hoping that they explore ideas for a 2-player 3D Mario game someday.

Oh they have. I remember an interview with Miyamoto about them trying to have Mario and Luigi run around together in 3D space. That was supposedly after Mario 64 if I remember correctly. But as I have said before, Wind Waker, Galaxy, Four swords and NSMBW show me that Nintendo is really trying to get multiplayer in it's main games. I'm certain that is going to be the big draw sooner or later once they figure it out just right.