Topic: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America

[GoldenPhoenix]

Wow lots of whining going on (Not surprisingly). Seriously it isn't that big of a deal, most of us already have at least one controller and a nunchuck, and my guess is that many here over the last freaken TWO PLUS years already own at least one other controller/nunchuck combo. Also the $20 price point is not surprising nor "extreme" considering what it ads to the Wii mote. In many ways it has potential to be just as important as the nunchuck.

People are missing a very intriguing thing in this story, Nintendo is willing to sacrifice launching it with Wii Sports in order for a 3rd party title to utilize it earlier.

Also, I think many people will be disappointed with pass the remote games in Wii Sports Resort. 

Like they were disappointed with "pass the remote" with Wii sports? Seriously it isn't like you have to pass the remote you can get another Motion plus just like people got extra controllers along with a nunchuck to play Wii Sports. Not to mention Wii Play has sold amazingly well so a TON of people at least have an extra controller.

[GoldenPhoenix]

This is essentially $80+ for a video game controller.  Not as expensive as the Neo Geo controller but definitely unprecedented in its own right considering the hardware is essentially last gen.  Nintendo, masters of disguise.

What, the controller is last gen? Or do you think the graphics of the console affect the controller price?

I'm stating the hardware the controller is intended for is last gen.

Oh wow, I'm not going to touch this ridiculous argument.

[Flames_of_chaos]

$110 for four players.

- Have you created your own math?  Like Isaac Newton did?

$50 + $20 + $20 + $20 = $110.

Hmmm your Math is bad, a Wii remote is $40 not $50 I am assuming you are calculating a Wii Remote, Nunchuk, Classic and MotionPlus so it will be $40 + $20 + $20 + $20 = $100

[Stogi]

He's calculating how much at total of 4 M+ attachments would cost IF he were to buy WS:R as well.

His math is perfectly fine.

[D_Average]

Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.

[Stogi]

It's no different from any other manufacturer of any product.

Apple, for instance, released a 4 gb ipod then 6 months later a 16 gb.

The fact is, you still had fun listening to your 4 gb, but now that you can listen to so much more, you feel jipped. It's the biggest hustle ever.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.

Hey kind of like MS's Xbox FAT controller and the slimmer version or the PS3's sixaxis with rumble? The only difference is that you don't need buy a full priced controller in order to get features that should have came with the system. Better yet the wavebird for GameCube. My point is that controllers always see upgrades, and at the moment it is not REQUIRED that you buy a Wii Motion plus, but you do have that option and don't need to worry about paying another 40-50 to buy a redesigned controller to get features you may want.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

PlayStation 3 for SIX HUNDRED U.S. DOLLARS

[D_Average]

Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.

Hey kind of like MS's Xbox FAT controller and the slimmer version or the PS3's sixaxis with rumble? The only difference is that you don't need buy a full priced controller in order to get features that should have came with the system.

Those features are completely superfluous and not necessary in providing the core experience MS and Sony offered.  Nintendo has yet to deliver on that core experience.  Wii Boxing anyone?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Wii Boxing is fine.  The core experience is Bowling.

[Stogi]

Hey! I like Wii Boxing!

[Yoshidious]

While I can understand some people feel shortchanged about paying additional money to get functionality they feel was promised originally, I'm still pleased that we're getting MotionPlus at all considering Wii is such a runaway success without it. Not that this is an act of charity from Nintendo by any means (I'm sure they will make plenty of money out of it in the end), but it is a somewhat risky move in the way it will segment the market, so I'm happy we'll get this experience now rather than having to wait until the next console or whatever. Having to pay for it to this extent is not so pleasurable, but ultimately I'm willing to do so because I'm confident it'll be worth it.

Also congratulations to GoldenPhoenix, her most recent post in this thread is her 10,000th here on the forums!

[GoldenPhoenix]

Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.

Hey kind of like MS's Xbox FAT controller and the slimmer version or the PS3's sixaxis with rumble? The only difference is that you don't need buy a full priced controller in order to get features that should have came with the system.

Those features are completely superfluous and not necessary in providing the core experience MS and Sony offered.  Nintendo has yet to deliver on that core experience.  Wii Boxing anyone?

What about the dual shock for the original Playstation?

Also that is solely your opinion in regards to the Wii not providing the core experience. There have been some fantastic uses of the WIi mote so far in various games. And considering the Wii is massacring the competition I'd say more then a few people are getting the "core experience".

[D_Average]

While I can understand some people feel shortchanged about paying additional money to get functionality they feel was promised originally, I'm still pleased that we're getting MotionPlus at all considering Wii is such a runaway success without it. Not that this is an act of charity from Nintendo by any means (I'm sure they will make plenty of money out of it in the end), but it is a somewhat risky move in the way it will segment the market, so I'm happy we'll get this experience now rather than having to wait until the next console or whatever. Having to pay for it to this extent is not so pleasurable, but ultimately I'm willing to do so because I'm confident it'll be worth it.

Couldn't agree more.  As irritating as the wait and extra cost are, at the end of the day, I still want to play good games.  And if this is what it takes, by all means, sign me up.

[NWR_Lindy]

Nintendo just keeps racking up that money off of peripheral sales.

Wii Sports Resort is such a no-brainer purchase it isn't even funny.  What they should do is make a  Wii Sports Resort Play bundle that includes Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, a WiiMote and WiiMotionPlus.  Then it would rule the NPD charts for infinity.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Lotion Puss is a much better situation than $80 SNES games of the 1990s and having to change between the N64 Controller Pak and the Rumble Pak making it impossible for gamese to support both at the same time.

By 2013, the Wii Remote will be the FUCKING VOLTRON OF CONTROLLERS.

Defending the universe from bad entertainment.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Nintendo just keeps racking up that money off of peripheral sales.

Wii Sports Resort is such a no-brainer purchase it isn't even funny.  What they should do is make a  Wii Sports Resort Play bundle that includes Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, a WiiMote and WiiMotionPlus.  Then it would rule the NPD charts for infinity.

I was actually thinking of a Wii Play 2 with a controller/motion plus combo.

It is kind of funny though people are freaking about M+ but MS still gets away by overcharging like CRAZY for 512MB memory cards, $100 last generation Wi-fi adapter, and their "last generation" controller (OH no I dint!). Nintendo introduces something that honestly none of us would even DREAM they would do considering Nintendo of old, that could fundamentally change how we interact with Wii games and charge $20 for it and it is the end of the world.

[D_Average]

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Also that is solely your opinion in regards to the Wii not providing the core experience. There have been some fantastic uses of the WIi mote so far in various games. And considering the Wii is massacring the competition I'd say more then a few people are getting the "core experience".

True, there are many owners very satisfied with whats out there already.  However, I'm just bringing up the point that it is a brute fact that 1:1 sword fighting and certain sports moves are not yet possible, and these were elements of game play heavily promised from the beginning, hence the "revolution".   

[Stogi]

Some times I feel like Nintendo is drug dealer.

If you guys enjoyed crack, then you'll love SUPER CRACK! Only $20.


*sigh* I'm going to watch some gameplay vids now.

[Flames_of_chaos]

This really reminds me of the N64 rumble pack, if you wanted to experience some rumble you had to buy a 15 or 20 dollar rumble pack (I forgot how much they retailed for). Most games that have Wii MotionPlus support it will be optional, if MotionPlus support is manditory you will see the game packaged with the peripheral, since Nintendo probably enforces a policy that deals with add-on peripherals. 

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Also that is solely your opinion in regards to the Wii not providing the core experience. There have been some fantastic uses of the WIi mote so far in various games. And considering the Wii is massacring the competition I'd say more then a few people are getting the "core experience".

True, there are many owners very satisfied with whats out there already.  However, I'm just bringing up the point that it is a brute fact that 1:1 sword fighting and certain sports moves are not yet possible, and these were elements of game play heavily promised from the beginning, hence the "revolution".  

I agree with you here, Nintendo did oversell the Wii functionality, then again it isn't something we should be shocked about considering it is pretty common in this industry (Doesn't make it right though). One thing I THINK we can agree on is that this opens up some exciting possibilities. Heck to get me EXTREMELY interested in a Golf game is amazing

[GoldenPhoenix]

This really reminds me of the N64 rumble pack, if you wanted to experience some rumble you had to buy a 15 or 20 dollar rumble pack (I forgot how much they retailed for). Most games that have Wii MotionPlus support it will be optional, if MotionPlus support is manditory you will see the game packaged with the peripheral, since Nintendo probably enforces a policy that deals with add-on peripherals. 

I think that is how it will work as well. Games that need it will be packed with it. Nintendo is showing signs that they are trying there best to work with 3rd parties with this announcement that it will release in time for Tiger Woods.

[D_Average]

I agree with you here, Nintendo did oversell the Wii functionality, then again it isn't something we should be shocked about considering it is pretty common in this industry (Doesn't make it right though). One thing I THINK we can agree on is that this opens up some exciting possibilities. Heck to get me EXTREMELY interested in a Golf game is amazing

Very true.  And I've had my hopes set on the new Tiger for some time now.

[Jonnyboy117]

What about the dual shock for the original Playstation?

The original PSone analog controller is still one of my favorites EVER.  Dual Shock was a step backwards except for the rumble support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Analog_Controller

Apparently it's a collector's item... wonder if I can find my old one and sell it for mad profit.

[Pale]

I'm sorry but Wii Tennis IS Wii Sports.  As great as Wii Bowling is... Nine times out of ten if you ask someone to describe the Wii, the first thing they will bring up is Tennis.

And my point of the pass the remote thing being a let down is assuming it is going to be more forced in Resort than a result of the game being played.

For example, how much you want to bet the default mode for the sword fighting is trade off attacking a dummy of some sort?

Why exactly is it frisbee dog?  That is the kind of thing that would have been in a training mode in the original Wii Sports. The main game should be multiple people playing frisbee.

I guess the pessimist in me is just expecting more of these lame trade-offs that are going to lower the interactivity of the whole thing

And honestly, how can anyone be happy with the fact that the Wave Race clone is only a single player game out of the box?


All I can see is that they are asking me to pay at least 70 bucks for a sequel to what was a pack-in game... and that just doesn't feel right.

And because people seem to be confusing the math in this thread left and right, that's because I know for a fact I'm going to want to at least play this game two player.


Again, all my gripes will be moot if we end up seeing more Motion Plus attachments packed in with other great games.