Author Topic: id Software "considering" Wii game (Read 7553 times)

KDR_11k · « **on:** February 25, 2009, 02:11:10 PM »

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/02/24/john-carmack-talks-possible-wii-development-iphone-doom-4-more/

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MTV Multiplayer: You’ve said in the past that you don’t think id titles will be on the Wii. Is that still the case?

Carmack: Interestingly, I actually spend far more time playing Wii with my four year-old boy than I do with any other game console. So I’m definitely sympathetic to the platform. But “Rage” is not a viable option on the Wii because of the technology. We’ve been pitched and talked about a project to do a title that would fit well on the Wii, and it’s actually related to an iPhone title that we’re doing. But that’s still kind of up in the air as to what other developer we would partner with on there. I’d like to do something there, because I love a lot of what Nintendo has done with the Wii and the DS, but it’s just out of sync with the developments that are currently going on at id.

MTV Multiplayer: Do you feel you’d have to create a new IP? Or at least a new game from the ground up for the Wii?

Carmack: Yeah, it would have to be a completely different game. We would use one of our existing IPs where we have a little bit of leverage. It’s not something that really any of our titles, that are under development currently would be appropriate for.

[..]

MTV Multiplayer: So that one particular iphone title you mentioned that you’re having trouble with — is that the one that will potentially be a Wii title?

Carmack: Yes, it could possibly lead into it. Not directly from that, but a very similar concept for something.

And I know that’s very cryptic. [laughs] But we haven’t made an official announcements about it because we’ve had some difficulties during the development. And we don’t want to announce something and then retract it. We want to make sure it turns out good before we actually talk about it.

[..]

MTV Multiplayer: And if there’s a Wii title, would you see yourself being heavily involved in that?

Carmack: There’s an interesting bit of technology — the idea is that we would be setting up the game in such a way that we would deal with some of the “Rage” content pipeline for the Wii. While we can’t do a freeform game like that, we could do a limited-scope game in a particular way so there would be a core bit of technology to develop there that would let it do something really visually stunning in a more limited game framework. And that would be the work that I would set off at the beginning of that. But that’s something we’ve had brief discussions with publishers [about]. At this point, we’re making sure that the core gameplay actually works out well first before inking anything.

I recall he said he liked the Wii but they were already committed to the HD platforms two years ago, seems they're finally getting around to trying their hand on the Wii.

cue the people interpreting "While we can’t do a freeform game like that, we could do a limited-scope game in a particular way" as "rail shooter"

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2009, 02:22:03 PM »

Yeah, quit dancing around the idea and just show a fucking trailer already. If the results are like Dead Rising, don't bother with the trailers at all, Mr. Carmackeral.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2009, 02:33:54 PM »

Well the good thing about Carmack is that he usually doesn't care about the horsepower of the console/device. I'm sure ID could do a pretty decent FPS on Wii considering that the pointer is similar to a mouse.

Stogi · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2009, 03:03:27 PM »

What has ID made recently that has been good?

This isn't sarcasm.

That wasn't sarcasm either.

Neither was that.

or that.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2009, 03:48:57 PM »

Rage is supposed to be really good, although the 360 version will be gimped since the game will need to be on 3 DVDs but MS royalty rate increases if there are multiple discs so they had to stick with 2 discs. The PS3 version will be on 1 blu-ray and ID is thinking about having a DVD and a Bluray PC version.

Stogi · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2009, 03:52:59 PM »

Well other than rage? (A game that has yet to come out)

What I'm asking is, would we really like there support?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:05:02 PM »

We would, if it's not another bandwagon product and the technology can be shared with other developers (assuming the product is actually decent).

bustin98 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:06:19 PM »

I'd like to see Quake Arena on the DS. Well, I'd like to see Quake Arena on Wii as well but I believe Carmack has already commented on Arean being on the DS before.

Yes, I like twitch FPS's with rocket launchers and rail guns. Call me old fashioned.

Pale · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:07:43 PM »

Did he just elude to bringing an iphone game to Wii? I think that's what he just did.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:09:07 PM »

Quote from: Kashogi Y. Stogi on February 25, 2009, 03:52:59 PM

Well other than rage? (A game that has yet to come out)

What I'm asking is, would we really like there support?

If nothing else, we could count on id to develop a good engine for the Wii and license it to others. But seriously, what's with this hoity-toity crap? Even if I agreed in principle, we are so far beyond the point of trying to keep the riffraff out it's not even funny.

Stogi · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:15:34 PM »

If your talking about Carmack i.e. not me, then I completely agree. What's wrong with coming out and saying that you would or wouldn't like to develop for the Wii?

That's not even business related....anyone can answer that without having to look over their shoulder.

vudu · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:17:03 PM »

Quote from: Kashogi Y. Stogi on February 25, 2009, 03:03:27 PM

What has ID made recently that has been good?

I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed Doom 3. Sure, it was primitive by gameplay standards, but the weapons felt nice and the updated Pinky was scary as Hell.

Stogi · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:19:32 PM »

Where they the ones to make Hexen?

Ian Sane · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:45:17 PM »

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Did he just elude to bringing an iphone game to Wii? I think that's what he just did.

That's what I immediately picked up on.

Even if id made a Wii game I have no optimism because of the way he talks down about the Wii. Like, well, EVERY developer he doesn't treat the Wii as a serious gaming platform.

Aside from the iPhone thing he also mentions his play time with the Wii in relation to playing with his 4 year old son. He doesn't just say he's playing Wii but feels the need to specify that he's doing so with a little kid. He mentions "limited-scope game" and "limited game framework" in the same sentence.

What I get out of this? The Wii is great family console that little kids can play with. We're thinking of porting or spining off a fucking iPhone game to it because it's obviously too limited to handle something, you know, good.

Nintendo has made buttloads of cash with the Wii but because they went with glorified last gen hardware no developers want to design anything for it and seem to only do so to make some easy dough so they can fund the games they truly want to make on other platforms. I wonder if Nintendo will take this into account when they design their next console. If they skimp on the hardware next time they'll just be the shovelware console again. But since the Wii is financially a huge success I question if Nintendo even cares.

vudu · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:52:47 PM »

Quote from: KDR_11k on February 25, 2009, 02:11:10 PM

We’ve been pitched and talked about a project to do a title that would fit well on the Wii, and it’s actually related to an iPhone title that we’re doing.

Well, let's see what iPhone games id is working on.

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John Carmack, technical director and cofounder of Id software has revealed at QuakeCon 2008 that ID Software is apparently working on a couple of iPhone projects. The first game Doom2 is supposedly an extension of Id’s mobile stuff and the second game Wolfenstein RPGs will be a more unexpected and exciting “graphical tour de force.”

Source

Woo-hoo! A port of a 15 year old game and an RPG from a company that isn't exactly known for making quality RPGS.

Stogi · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:54:34 PM »

I don't Nintendo cares too much considering ID software really isn't that cool. Plus any "engine" they make will probably be trumped by what Factor 5 is currently working on. (even if they are in financial trouble)

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2009, 04:57:19 PM »

ON RAILS DOOM!

EPIC WIN!

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2009, 05:48:38 PM »

Quote from: Kashogi Y. Stogi on February 25, 2009, 04:54:34 PM

I don't Nintendo cares too much considering ID software really isn't that cool. Plus any "engine" they make will probably be trumped by what Factor 5 is currently working on. (even if they are in financial trouble)

That's what I was talking about. The Wii has plenty of absolutely crappy games, and you're acting like id isn't good enough for us. If you want to vote someone off the island, start with someone like Data Design.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2009, 05:59:23 PM »

Wolfenstein: The Ride

Morari · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2009, 07:58:39 PM »

Quote from: Kashogi Y. Stogi on February 25, 2009, 04:54:34 PM

I don't Nintendo cares too much considering ID software really isn't that cool. Plus any "engine" they make will probably be trumped by what Factor 5 is currently working on. (even if they are in financial trouble)

Id has been one of the best development studios in the industry for years. Aside from tarnishing their image a bit with Doom III, they've not made a bad game and tend to instead air on the side of greatness. Go back and take a look at the original Quake and tell me that Carmack can't make amazing use of limited system resources. Id would be the perfect developer to really push the Wii if they wanted to. Of course the trouble is that Id has never taken consoles particularly seriously (and why should they?), as their outsourced ports will show.

jakeOSX · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2009, 08:37:26 PM »

ok, i'll say it.

give me quake one and two for the wii. hell, don't even up the graphics, just make them online and compatible with PC's.

i'd pay $50, day one. you'd have to push me out of line and even then i'd smack your bratty nine year old around and say things like "you weren't even ALIVE when i kicked the crap of of this game"

so there.

Adrock · « **Reply #21 on:** February 25, 2009, 09:05:45 PM »

It's too easy to make a Doom on-rails shooter joke here. I'm sure, it's been made already.

The iPhone to Wii thing is certainly eye-catching. Not surprised. Still, John "Graphics Turbo Whore" Carmack actually considering any Wii project is actually somewhat interesting.

In any case, not sure it matters to me either way. id Software is known for FPS. Me + FPS = headaches, suck at them anyway etc.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 25, 2009, 10:24:24 PM »

Quote from: Adrock on February 25, 2009, 09:05:45 PM

It's too easy to make a Doom on-rails shooter joke here. I'm sure, it's been made already.

Scroll a few pages up... Its been done.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2009, 05:59:26 AM »

Quote from: Pale on February 25, 2009, 04:07:43 PM

Did he just elude to bringing an iphone game to Wii? I think that's what he just did.

Sounded to me like he means the same IP, not a direct port.

Quote from: jakeOSX on February 25, 2009, 08:37:26 PM

give me quake one and two for the wii. hell, don't even up the graphics, just make them online and compatible with PC's.

i'd pay $50, day one. you'd have to push me out of line and even then i'd smack your bratty nine year old around and say things like "you weren't even ALIVE when i kicked the crap of of this game"

There's a homebrew port of Quake for the Wii AFAIK.

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #24 on:** February 28, 2009, 04:21:13 AM »

www.quakelive.com

Enjoy.

And I couldn't care less about id's upcoming Wii on-rails shooter.

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