Topic: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.

[that Baby guy]

Spak, you're messing things up for me.  Stop that.

[Spak-Spang]

thatguy:  I told you I never agreed with your plan we have our own strategies  :^P

[that Baby guy]

The information presented to you was time sensitive.  How am I supposed to blackmail either of them if they know I've told other people they're in the mafia?

[bustin98]

For there being a large number of people in the game, not many people are talking.

[EasyCure]

**** it:

VOTE THATGUY

[that Baby guy]

I guess now's as good a time as ever to begin.

EasyCure, why did you vote for yourself on day one?

[EasyCure]

in response to someone wanting something 'interesting' to happen.

that and regular townie roles are boring.

oh and this game confuses me so i wanted out.

[that Baby guy]

Alright, so you wanted out, you say?  Well, then why did you try to bring focus on yourself voting for yourself?  You've already answered that question, but the answers contradict.  You say you wanted to be the "something interesting" in the game, correct?

So the game was too confusing and you wanted out, but you also wanted to make it more interesting.  That's what you just said.

However, if you really want out, the best way, especially on the townie side, is just to not vote for three days, isn't it?

[Spak-Spang]

Fellow Townies.  I know you don't trust me yet.  I am not part of your alliance because I have no role.  I also have been talking and working some with thatguy.  This game we don't agree and we don't have an alliance.

That said, I believe thatguy can be trusted this game.  We should not vote him out, not yet at least.  We have two names that he believes are mafia...surely if one of those players is Mafia, Vudu and the townie alliance can analyze the information from 2 days of communications and PMs and vote one of them out. 

If thatguy is wrong then we know thatguy is most likely mafia and worth voting out.  If we find one of them is mafia perhaps both are...and we are well on our way to a victory.

I know my motives have been questionable and so have my decisions been questionable.  But we must consider the possibility thatguy is correct and vote accordingly. 

I am going to Vote Maxi   He will have 2 votes against him.  Let us push it over the edge and see what happens. 

[EasyCure]

Alright, so you wanted out, you say?  Well, then why did you try to bring focus on yourself voting for yourself?  You've already answered that question, but the answers contradict.  You say you wanted to be the "something interesting" in the game, correct?

So the game was too confusing and you wanted out, but you also wanted to make it more interesting.  That's what you just said.

However, if you really want out, the best way, especially on the townie side, is just to not vote for three days, isn't it?

how does it contradict? I could spice things up by voting for myself, trying to start a bandwagon against me (which is how most voting is, sadly, done on the first day) and still succeed with getting voted out. Also i never said i was trying to make it interesting for myself, i voted for myself in response to someone else wanting the game to get intresting, go back and read the Day 1 thread. I even made a second post about it..

Its clear you're trying to get everyone to vote for me, Spak already did. You know what? It's fine. I'll be voted out and you'll all find out i'm just a townie. What happens then is that you Thatguy will look even more suspicious for trying to throw the scent off your own trail.

[Spak-Spang]

It is a gamble.

But Mafia is always a gamble.  I have been trying to be an information broker...and it is hard to take sides when you now so little and yet have so many theories.  I am placing some of my credibility on thatguy...he may be wrong, but he may also be right. 

If you were Mafia you would fight completely to stay alive...just like you would Easycure if you are a townie, so your protests don't mean much.  As I told Decoyman before...thatguy has the majority of the votes against him right now, and it will take a miracle to get those votes to change.  I am willing to bet on that miracle and help with my vote, because I believe in Harvey Dent....wait I believe in thatguy.  I might not tomorrow, but I believe him today.

[Plugabugz]

I am totally lost to begin with. Someone please summarize this entire thread.

[EasyCure]

I am totally lost to begin with. Someone please summarize this entire thread.

"thatguys mafia"
"no spak is mafia"
"thatguy CAN be trusted"
"spak CANNOT be trusted"
"wait i take that back... wait i'm not sure"
"Easycure: this game blows, vote me out already to prove i'm a townie"

Or if you want the super short version: lots of BS from all sides

[that Baby guy]

See, but that's the thing.  You made a post after that pointing to your first post.  If you didn't care, if you wanted out, you certainly wanted to see a reaction to your vote for yourself.  You wanted everyone to see it.  I don't see the reason why you wanted everyone to see it.  That's the part that doesn't make any sense to me.  If you really wanted out, I think you'd just wait three days and die.  If you really wanted to make things interesting by voting for yourself, and also wanted out, I don't see why you'd point to yourself.

To me, it seems you wanted everyone to see and remember that you voted for yourself.  You wanted to make it look like you did the typical "I'm a bored" townie move, but you messed up.  You shouldn't have pointed back to yourself.  When typical townies announce they want to lose, they want to die, they say it, then just stop playing.  You didn't.

You go on, in day two, to post about Vudu, then to say I was wrong about Mr. Jack.  Twice more, you posted, yet you wanted to die?  You wanted out?  Still makes no sense.  Not to mention, when I learned about Mr. Jack, there were less than ten minutes left to vote.  You replied in three minutes to my notification.  For a player that doesn't want to play, that's a quick response time.

Now we move to today.  Again, for a player that wanted to die, you're posting. I PM'd you last night.  I asked you to spill the beans on who was responsible for GP's death.  In the end, this is what you say:

1. the alliance won't be voting me out, i'm sure of it.

2. mafia won't be gunning for me unless they're fools

3. i didnt even know GP was playing

if i can trust you, i'll get back to you

I can not understand a situation where the mafia would be fools for gunning down a member of the townie alliance.  I can not understand a situation where a member of the townie alliance would not vote out someone who the mafia would be fools for killing.  I can not figure out for the life of me how a townie could be so sure about both of those things.  It makes no sense to me.  The way you've played has made no sense to me.

[EasyCure]

i see your arguments and i can understand where you're coming from so let me make this clearer:

I do want out, but i wasnt aware of the rule where you die if you dont vote for three days. I learned about it afterwords.

As for the reason i'm still participating, thats simple too. I'm freaking bored! I want out, yes, but since i'm here i might as well try. I thought that by voting myself more people would vote with me/for me. Thats why i pointed it out a second time, i wanted more people to vote for me so i could get out sooner than later. It didnt work the way i wanted to because i'm obviously still here.

And for PMing me last night, you should know that to me it was about 4am. I woke up feeling sick enought to call out of work and was only online to look for a new primary care physician because mine sucks. NWR is my homepage and while i was on you sent me a PM and like any PM i get i respond quickly becuase i get them rarely, so i'm always curious to see what they're about. You pretty much harrassed me too, trying to bully an answer out of me so i could tell you that I killed GP because its what you wanted to hear.

The way you've played has made no sense to me.

Good. Vote me out so i can stop confusing you. Maybe i'll even change my vote from you to me

[Plugabugz]

I VOTE THE UNIVERSE AND ALL ITS CONTENTS!

[Spak-Spang]

Easycure:  I endorse your summary of the thread.  And I just realized that I have been part of confusing 2 mafia games by accident. 

[nickmitch]

A lot of people were complaining about warts here.  I thought some of them might've ran in to Froggy.  I guess not.

[Khushrenada]

Just a heads up. I'll be gone in an hour and won't be around until voting is close to over so if you have any questions, you're best to ask about them now otherwise you'll have to wait for your answer.

[EasyCure]

Easycure:  I endorse your summary of the thread.  And I just realized that I have been part of confusing 2 mafia games by accident. 

thanks and its ok, looks like i'm mucking things up myself..

[Spak-Spang]

Easycure...don't give up on the game.  It is still early, and this game has some great interesting roles.  Let's see what happens.

[RABicle]

Stuff it, OOC for this post.

I am totally lost to begin with. Someone please summarize this entire thread.

Spak and thatguy were trying to have a contest to see who could act the most upset that GoldenPhoenix was killed. Thatguy has made absurd statements revolving around massive conspiracies.

See, but that's the thing.  You made a post after that pointing to your first post.  If you didn't care, if you wanted out, you certainly wanted to see a reaction to your vote for yourself.  You wanted everyone to see it.  I don't see the reason why you wanted everyone to see it.  That's the part that doesn't make any sense to me.  If you really wanted out, I think you'd just wait three days and die.  If you really wanted to make things interesting by voting for yourself, and also wanted out, I don't see why you'd point to yourself.

To me, it seems you wanted everyone to see and remember that you voted for yourself.  You wanted to make it look like you did the typical "I'm a bored" townie move, but you messed up.  You shouldn't have pointed back to yourself.  When typical townies announce they want to lose, they want to die, they say it, then just stop playing.  You didn't.

You go on, in day two, to post about Vudu, then to say I was wrong about Mr. Jack.  Twice more, you posted, yet you wanted to die?  You wanted out?  Still makes no sense.  Not to mention, when I learned about Mr. Jack, there were less than ten minutes left to vote.  You replied in three minutes to my notification.  For a player that doesn't want to play, that's a quick response time.

Now we move to today.  Again, for a player that wanted to die, you're posting. I PM'd you last night.  I asked you to spill the beans on who was responsible for GP's death.  In the end, this is what you say:

1. the alliance won't be voting me out, i'm sure of it.

2. mafia won't be gunning for me unless they're fools

3. i didnt even know GP was playing

if i can trust you, i'll get back to you

I can not understand a situation where the mafia would be fools for gunning down a member of the townie alliance.  I can not understand a situation where a member of the townie alliance would not vote out someone who the mafia would be fools for killing.  I can not figure out for the life of me how a townie could be so sure about both of those things.  It makes no sense to me.  The way you've played has made no sense to me.

There's only one person not making sense thatguy and it's you. Easycure didn't say that he was part of the townie alliance, if anything he made it clear that he's not affiliated with anyone at all.

[that Baby guy]

1. the alliance won't be voting me out, i'm sure of it.

How is he so sure of that?

Anyways, I don't think the EasyCure idea works.  Talking about it was half a charade just because Spak posted the two people I've suspected well before I was done talking to them to confirm things.

[RABicle]

Because he's done nothing that would warrant any sort of attention. Not like you! Dancing about like a clown. You've muddied the waters so much that I'm not even sure of my own role anymore!

Woah found some stuff out! Vote Spak Spang just kidding.

[BeautifulShy]

Vote Thatguy