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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #125 on: July 29, 2008, 02:23:14 AM »
::points at Two-face's eye as suspension of belief::
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #126 on: July 29, 2008, 02:32:19 AM »
::points at Two-face's eye as suspension of belief::

Eh, I'd say that's within the realm of believability, if not quite realistic. Eyes are there. How much tissue can you remove before it doesn't function correctly? I don't know the scientific answer. Shapeshifting mudmen, though, is pretty far out there. The thing that all of Nolan's villains have in common thus far is that they're all normal men. There aren't really any powers going around, aside from a weaponized hallucinogen, and there are precedents for such drugs in real life.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #127 on: July 29, 2008, 02:56:31 AM »
christopher lloyd

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mr freeze is a great character, but its hard to do in Nolan's world. I can imagine someone who's cold in the since that they've shut off their emotions, but not in the sense that their frozen.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #128 on: July 29, 2008, 03:15:36 AM »
I could see a version of Freeze working sans suit. Maybe injured in a cryogenics lab accident or something, nerves deadened, body partially frozen inside and slowly falling apart...like a leper, or that one Bond villain with the bullet in his head...I dunno. I trust Nolan and Goyer to do -any- of the villains in a way that works well, if they decide they need to. But I think some are more out of the way than others, and thus less likely to be worth the trouble.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #129 on: July 31, 2008, 09:36:32 AM »
I'm glad to see Return of the Joker got some love while I was gone.  That was a great movie - the unedited one, at least... If you've only seen the edited version, really, go see the uncut version...  It's good. :)

That aside, SubZero is one of my top Batman movies as well.  The Animated Series, as a whole, is just wonderful.

Anywhoo, back to Dark Knight - I saw it again last week with my wife and it was still good the second time.  It's a shame the phone number they showed in the movie didn't work. :(
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #130 on: July 31, 2008, 11:49:07 AM »
what phone number?

was it 618-304-6938?
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #131 on: July 31, 2008, 10:31:32 PM »
I just realized the worst thing about this movie. every (and I mean EVERY) emo/goth kid is going to dress as the Joker this Halloween. If you thought the Crow thing was bad back in the 90s, you ain't seen nothin yet.

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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #132 on: August 01, 2008, 01:57:14 AM »
I was really impressed that they didn't do a "555".  I hate that in movies.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #133 on: August 01, 2008, 09:33:42 AM »
what phone number?

was it 618-304-6938?


In the scene where Bruce/Alfred is warning Gordon about the cop he's riding with.  Gordon receives txt messages.  The first time I saw it, I tried to get my cell phone out and get it typed in quickly, but (assumed) I didn't get it correct.  When I saw it the second time, I was waiting for it as the scene came up.

People should hide more real numbers in movies. ;)
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #134 on: August 01, 2008, 11:21:51 AM »
I just realized the worst thing about this movie. every (and I mean EVERY) emo/goth kid is going to dress as the Joker this Halloween. If you thought the Crow thing was bad back in the 90s, you ain't seen nothin yet.

they've already started. Some dude dressed up like this Joker and got busted stealing Dark Knight posters... lol
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #135 on: August 03, 2008, 12:25:16 AM »
Saw the movie and really liked it.  The Joker was awesome as everyone says as well as Harvery Dent.  My only gripe is the cell phone radar thing that maps all of Gotham.  It was totally pointless and unrealistic and could have easily been replaced with an eyewitness seeing the Joker, the Joker wanting to be chased (hostages in masks), or tracing the phone call/transmission followed by good building surveillance.

Joker still won in my book.  While the boat (lucky) and Dent were stopped Batman KILLED Dent.  The Joker stood still at one point hoping Batman would run him down just to make Batman break that one rule.  The Joker may not have beaten the city but he made Batman kill Dent by knocking him out the window to save the child.

Harvery Dent is dead.  If he somehow survived (no helmet) a simple police commissioner, and a brand new one at that, can't make Harvey disappear into a prison.  Even if he is backed by Bruce Wayne's money there is only so much he can do.  Half of Dent's face is extremely recognizable and his burn accident was on the news, he needs major medical operations from the burns and from falling off a building without the suit and especially the helmet batman has.  They would then need to sneak him into Arkham, bribe a judge or somehow avoid a trial, have the warden and nearly all the guards in on it, and then keep him in solitary permanently or the other prisoners would tell someone.  They also would have had to find a way to trick/bribe a coroner and the usual funeral people.

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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #136 on: August 03, 2008, 01:04:13 AM »
I don't think That was a funeral at the end, but rather a public memorial service. They probably recanted on their story that Harvey made it out of the hospital.

Also keep in mind this is Batman. He can make people disappear if he chooses. As for the official status of Harvey/Two-Face, Jonathan Nolan (co-writer and brother) alluded he was dead in a podcast. Also, a leaked script said that Harvey was dead of a broken neck. However, Emma Thomas (wife and producer) stated that Two Face may not be dead in an interview. Plus, Aaron Eckhart has stated he is willing to appear in a third film.

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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2008, 04:05:10 AM »
Didn't Bruce Wayne pay for the restoration of Dent's face in The Dark Knight Returns?
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #138 on: August 03, 2008, 04:33:40 AM »
So let's recap...

They did bio-terrorism
Then they did terrorism

Where do they go from here?

I think Mr. Freis (or however you spell) could be a badass character if done right, but I don't think an entire movie could be made out of him and his struggle for his wife's survival.

Maybe if you had Ras al ghul's daughter hire him as a mercenary though...maybe that could work.

Would that be terrorism though? Doesn't even matter?
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #139 on: August 03, 2008, 08:49:42 AM »
So, there's talk about Ledger getting an award for his performance in TDK.

There's also talk about not giving it to him due to his personal issues.

Thoughts?
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #140 on: August 03, 2008, 12:09:21 PM »
So, there's talk about Ledger getting an award for his performance in TDK.

There's also talk about not giving it to him due to his personal issues.

Thoughts?

I don't think he'll care either way.

EDIT for actual response in addition to my terrible joke:  I really don't see what his "personal problems" have to do with his awesome performance.  If the performance shines, award it.  It's not their job judge peoples' vices and personal lives, it's their job to judge their performance on-screen. 

I should also add that I don't know what award you're referring to, so I'm assuming a high profile Oscar type thing.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #141 on: August 03, 2008, 12:17:27 PM »
Also keep in mind this is Batman. He can make people disappear if he chooses. As for the official status of Harvey/Two-Face, Jonathan Nolan (co-writer and brother) alluded he was dead in a podcast. Also, a leaked script said that Harvey was dead of a broken neck. However, Emma Thomas (wife and producer) stated that Two Face may not be dead in an interview. Plus, Aaron Eckhart has stated he is willing to appear in a third film.

Well the movie set it up as the Joker returning, and I do believe Two Face was originally supposed to be dead... that could very well be changed now, though, since they will probably be hesitant to have the Joker back soon, if at all, with Ledger having passed on.

Eckhart has been signed on for the third movie as well, although that's never a definitive sign as these types of movies often sign on actors for sequels just in case they might need them and to avoid a price hike to get them back on (Kelly Hu - Lady Deathstrike - was signed on for X-Men 3 for example even though she never appeared).
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #142 on: August 03, 2008, 12:19:13 PM »
(Kelly Hu - Lady Deathstrike - was signed on for X-Men 3 for example even though she never appeared).

That's weird 'cause she was most definitely dead at the end of 2.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #143 on: August 03, 2008, 03:48:54 PM »
Personal issues should have nothing to do with awards, at least there shouldn't be a double standard. Amy Winehouse is an alcoholic crackhead, who does rails during concerts and video tapes herself smoking crack...but she gets awards all the time.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #144 on: August 03, 2008, 05:53:29 PM »
i was going to dress like the joker 2 years ago, but didn't because i never bought a suit and thought i was too fat



i'd photoshop it, but i look enough like joker regularly to not need to
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #145 on: August 03, 2008, 06:04:55 PM »
stop posting pics of yourself!
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« Reply #146 on: August 03, 2008, 06:15:30 PM »
Wat uh nurd.

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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #147 on: August 03, 2008, 06:51:15 PM »
Personal issues should have nothing to do with awards, at least there shouldn't be a double standard. Amy Winehouse is an alcoholic crackhead, who does rails during concerts and video tapes herself smoking crack...but she gets awards all the time.

One could look at it this way, did his drug use improve his performance?
Should we award people for using performance enhancing drugs?
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #148 on: August 03, 2008, 07:12:34 PM »
he was taking ambien..i don't think that had any effect on his performance. Never take sleeping pills! They do nobody any good. Exercise and more water...sleep like a champ. Ambien sucks because it fucks up your memory. You don't remember taking your pills.
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Re: So...the Dark Knight?
« Reply #149 on: August 03, 2008, 08:02:14 PM »
****... I've been taking Ambien the past week.  I'm gonna go get into the movies.
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