Topic: Madworld

[ShyGuy]

two tone is very difficult to pull of with such complex settings. I'm very impressed.

[bustin98]

And people want to say video games aren't art. They need an eyeful of this.

[KDR_11k]

Concept art is art but that doesn't necessarily make the thing using it art. With games I argue that the art-ness of a game is not directly related to the art-ness of its story, graphics or sound, again proper art uses its medium. A painting is a painting, even if it's placed inside a videogame.

[Dirk Temporo]

Concept art is art but that doesn't necessarily make the thing using it art. With games I argue that the art-ness of a game is not directly related to the art-ness of its story, graphics or sound, again proper art uses its medium. A painting is a painting, even if it's placed inside a videogame.

A story is a story, even if it's placed inside a video game.

[KDR_11k]

Yeah but it's art within a videogame, the videogame itself isn't the art. If you could strip the videogame part without making the art less effective then obviously the videogame didn't contribute at all. I'm not arguing a game cannot be art, I'm arguing that graphics and such don't make a videogame art, the game must be art from its game part to be actual art. Noone ever doubted you can put art into a videogame, what they are doubting is that the "wrapper" of the videogame is of any value to the art. Concept art doesn't help there at all, you could hang it on a wall or use it in a movie without losing its value. The game itself is just another pointlessly violent beat 'em up game, it is using art to promote itself.

[Mario]

Who cares

[KDR_11k]

The hardcore.

[bustin98]

Part of art is the experience of art. Going to a museum to view a painting is different than going to the artist's studio or looking at a scan in an encyclopedia.

Movie soundtracks are often works of art by themselves. But try listening to a movie without that music and the value of the film as a whole has dropped significantly.

Video games are a collaborative work, creating an experience that is unique to that game and illiciting an emotional response. Some do the job better than others, just like anything else.

You know, my post wasn't really to start another art war. Just looking at that screenshot had me thinking about how awesome it is to setup a game to produce such a shot. It's not a unique experience as other games produce glorious shots, but this is very unique and outstanding.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Real game art allows ME, the PLAYER, the express MYSELF.

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[KDR_11k]

Art can very well be composed of art pieces but the central part of the art (in this case the game) has to be art too. A movie with awesome music and great backgrounds is still pointless if the script was written by Uwe Boll, such a movie would be improved by replacing them with a slideshow with background music or maybe just scenes showing the backgrounds without any story.

[Bill Aurion]

It's not like art has to be good to be art...

Anyways, keep this crap out of the thread and bump up one of those old "games are art" threads if you want...

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Someone unlock Smash Brothers Megathread plz.

[ThePerm]

art is anything humankind creates regardless of quality


-Patrick Merritt (aka) Theperm
Bachelor of Arts:
Major Studio Art
Minor Art history
Associates of Applied Sciences in the field of Computer Graphics

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Let me flip my trash bin over...

*schwoop*

I call it..."a mess" !!

[ShyGuy]

http://www.9news.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=98146&catid=337

WHERE IS YOUR ART NOW?

[Dirk Temporo]

Yeah but it's art within a videogame, the videogame itself isn't the art. If you could strip the videogame part without making the art less effective then obviously the videogame didn't contribute at all. I'm not arguing a game cannot be art, I'm arguing that graphics and such don't make a videogame art, the game must be art from its game part to be actual art. Noone ever doubted you can put art into a videogame, what they are doubting is that the "wrapper" of the videogame is of any value to the art. Concept art doesn't help there at all, you could hang it on a wall or use it in a movie without losing its value. The game itself is just another pointlessly violent beat 'em up game, it is using art to promote itself.

So movies aren't art.

[KDR_11k]

Most movies. Yes. Researching the internet suggests that the vast majority is porn anyway

[Bill Aurion]

I'm sure you can find people who find pornography an art form (and it actually has been as far back as it has been drawn)

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I like that anime kind of art.

[Stogi]

If MadWorld isn't art, then this movie isn't art.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/viewer.php?id=15849&key=VaSzVuXzI2OzNxbTFiOWYwOTJxNm0yQjI3MDIrcUJfOTsyMTEyKzAzK2JWMjlWNzE7ODk2bTgxYl9CZjRWMjlmMTc3MDQz

[KDR_11k]

I'm sure you can find people who find pornography an art form (and it actually has been as far back as it has been drawn)

You need to explain that to the US Supreme Court please.

[ThePerm]

http://www.9news.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=98146&catid=337

WHERE IS YOUR ART NOW?

thats would not be art, i have pondered this before thinking about what an animal or a robot creating would be called. However, someone gave that bear a paintbrush and composed the situation. Thus it is art. If the bear created a brush and then made paint and then started painting then we would have to call it something else. However, the bear would not have done this without help, the artist is whoever possesses the bear. Poor bear.

[wandering]

http://www.9news.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=98146&catid=337

WHERE IS YOUR ART NOW?

thats would not be art, i have pondered this before thinking about what an animal or a robot creating would be called. However, someone gave that bear a paintbrush and composed the situation. Thus it is art. If the bear created a brush and then made paint and then started painting then we would have to call it something else. However, the bear would not have done this without help, the artist is whoever possesses the bear. Poor bear.

I dunno, I'm tempted to call bowerbird's bowers art.

[KDR_11k]

BTW, I'm not opposed to calling games art, I'm just opposed to saying "the graphics are great/unconventional therefore it's art".

[GoldenPhoenix]

Art is in the eye of the beholder. End of discussion. Some consider smearing manure pies over the wall art and it is probably is to them, but some of us find it disgusting. Seriously who cares? It is quite obvious the term art is extremely subjective.