Author Topic: Gamecube games were harder than Wii games. (Read 12481 times)

ShyGuy · « **on:** March 16, 2008, 11:53:27 PM »

And I am glad that they are. Too many of gamecube titles never got finished because they were too hard.

Mario Sunshine: got stuck about 80% through.
Mario Galaxy: beaten at 60 stars

Metroid Prime: stuck at the first boss
Metroid Prime 3 corruption: beaten with 72%

Viewtiful Joe: geez this game is insane. about two thirds through.
Zack and Wiki: beat-ded

Killer7: the combat got just too annoying despite the great story telling.
No More Heroes: Okay, I haven't beaten it yet, but I will.

Now before Pro (or whatever he calls himself nowadays) comes in here saying I'm a wimp for not beating the games, I did beat a number of Cube games, Windwaker, Eternal Darkness, RE4, Luigi's Mansion, Beyond Good and Evil, etc.

I honestly think the control scheme has a lot to do with it, I'm just better at waggle than the ole' dual analog.

Anyone else feel the same way?

animecyberrat · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2008, 11:56:51 PM »

Nope, I'm opposite, my arms get too tired to play Zelda or MP3 for long periods of time, I spend most my Wii time playing Wii Play and Virtual Console titles as a result.

Mikintosh · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2008, 12:31:37 AM »

Thank God if it's true. It took me five long years to beat Sunshine (not that I was playing it that whole time...I just got frustrated); I beat Galaxy in a week and I was much happier with the latter. Same with Zelda; got stuck in Wind Waker but Twilight Princess went off without a hitch. Still working on Metroid Prime. Finally beat Pokemon Colosseum but am still working on Pokemon XD.

I may suck, but I'm glad that Nintendo is helping sucky people like me out a bit.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2008, 12:37:38 AM »

GameCube games require more thinking (w/ dexterity) than these new waggle games.

Mario · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2008, 12:39:35 AM »

Strange. I beat Sunshine three times with 120 shines, in the first few months it came out (though I had a LOT more time then). Galaxy I doubt i'll even finish twice, despite being easier, I guess the thought of it just bores me, i'd rather just watch gameplay footage of it than play it now, it's the same amount of effort.

This thread is pointless, the opposite statement can be made too. Examples = Resident Evil, SSX. (Edit: Wait, i'm talking about REUC compared to the traditional ones, not comparing the GC RE4 to the watered down port)

If you really are still stuck at the first boss in Metroid Prime 1 (which i doubt) then you need outside help these forums can't offer. By the sounds of it you beat more of Sunshine than Galaxy too. But Galaxy is definitely easier, one of the easiest games ever made, and by far the easiest Mario game. They made it a kiddy nongame babies can play for the Wii, the same is true with Wario Ware. You can not consider getting 60 stars beating it though. I'd say you've seen under 49% of the what the game offers. A lot of the best stuff is in the second half.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2008, 12:43:12 AM »

Mario's ridicule stings like a flyswatter of condemnation.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2008, 01:18:06 AM »

Heh, the poster formerly known as Pro...

Anyways, you do realize that you just opened up a massive can of worms, right?

I am willing to bet the first thing people will say about this issue is that Nintendo is ruining gaming by making games more accessible to everyone. Then there will be some Wii bashing, some GC defense, the typical fanboy outrage, Pro 666 etc. etc. And the thread will go to hell faster than you can say "casual gaming".

RABicle · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2008, 01:34:09 AM »

Quote from: ShyGuy on March 16, 2008, 11:53:27 PM

I did beat a number of Cube games, Windwaker, Eternal Darkness, RE4, Luigi's Mansion, Beyond Good and Evil, etc.

Pfft. BG&E could be beaten in an afternoon. WIMP!

ShyGuy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2008, 01:36:25 AM »

Would it make you feel better to know that I beat Ty the Tasmanian Tiger as well? Crikey!

RABicle · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2008, 01:38:13 AM »

I didn't play that filthy EA Gold Coast game! I wouldn't know.

I think you need www.backloggery.com
http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=rabicle&console=GCN

Svevan · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2008, 02:35:26 AM »

on the Internet everybody is better than everybody

Kairon · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2008, 02:52:42 AM »

I beat Far Cry before I beat Zelda: TP.

Svevan · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2008, 03:13:09 AM »

on the Internet everybody is better than Kairon

ShyGuy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2008, 03:19:11 AM »

Let me answer for Kairon:

T_T

Kairon · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2008, 03:23:21 AM »

Plugabugz · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2008, 07:05:39 AM »

Has anybody even completed Super Monkey Ball 1/2 on master mode yet?

Mario · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2008, 08:18:55 AM »

I've beaten 2 but only because that gives you unlimited continues which makes it kinda easy

KDR_11k · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2008, 08:23:18 AM »

Quote

Metroid Prime: stuck at the first boss
Metroid Prime 3 corruption: beaten with 72%

For me it's MP1: Stuck at final boss
MP3: Beaten at 100% on my first try
But yeah, MP3 was way easier and IMO failed the "constrained only by abilities, not story" criterium needed to be really Metroid, it's more of a slightly less linear FPS with most sections still having linear pathes through them, discrete levels, etc.

I would say Sunshine is harder than Galaxy mostly because of annoying things like no mid-level checkpoints. It's less fun so finding the motivation to finish it is difficult. Galaxy is a lot more fun and while I don't think the levels are actually easier than Sunshine's the checkpoints make them much more beatable and fun since hard points that you finish won't need to be played again.

RABicle · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2008, 09:20:05 AM »

Quote from: Admiral Plugabugz on March 17, 2008, 07:05:39 AM

Has anybody even completed Super Monkey Ball 1/2 on master mode yet?

I beat 1 but yeah, unlimited continues. TO get to bonus stages you have to beat it all without continuing once. I think my best was like, stage 42 or something.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2008, 10:18:13 AM »

Sunshine > Galaxy

MP1 > MP3

Monkey Ball 1+2 > Banana Shitz

Ceric · « **Reply #20 on:** March 17, 2008, 10:24:53 AM »

MP1's final Boss I found easy. I'm stuck in MP2's the Alpha Blog evil fish thingy. I'm playing through 3 right now. I think Galaxy was easier because it was harder to get lost in the level.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #21 on:** March 17, 2008, 10:26:26 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Jack on March 17, 2008, 10:18:13 AM

Sunshine > Galaxy

MP1 > MP3

Monkey Ball 1+2 > Banana Shitz

Just a heads up, you got the first two less than signs backward.

Mario · « **Reply #22 on:** March 17, 2008, 11:02:11 AM »

Banana Blitz owns 2 in Single Player, and is just as good as 1. They improved the controls, look, music, and there's some amazing levels. I'd say it's harder than both too, the jump adds a lot more tricky elements, and there's still an entire world in BB that I have yet to unlock and see. The menu presentation SUCKS so badly though, and the minigames aren't even playable. It's a perfect recipe for anger.

Kororinpa, now that's a game with a "pleasant" difficulty. It makes the gold medal seem so close, yet so far. It makes me zone out for like 5 minutes til I beat a particular challenge, no anger, no frustration, no impatience, just pure focus.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2008, 11:04:10 AM »

I hated the controls in Banana Blitz, they should have made them like the ones in Kororinpa.

Mario · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2008, 11:08:25 AM »

Yes but then they'd have to make a whole different game. If Kororinpa didn't exist i'd agree with you but it does so Monkey Ball can still be Monkey Ball. I found BBs controls fairly confusing and floaty until it just "clicked" somehow.

I hope we get a new Monkey Ball with more polish, come on Sega don't be afraid! This is the Wii for gods sake!

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