Topic: Homocidal Psycho Jungle: The conclusion

[that Baby guy]

Players alive:
Pale
Stevey
Sessha
Sister Mary Le Fever
darkheart
Dasmos
Wandering
Decoyman

Dead:
S-U-P-E-R
Golden Phoenix
Oohhhboy
TVman
18 days
KashogiStogi
Crimm
Patchkid
Khushrenada
Bustin98
Spak-Spang
Arbok
ShyGuy
Kairon
Toruresu
Plugabugz
Zach
Atrun Zala
Vudu

Wandering was Calvin, Vudu was the T-Rex, Pale was Calvin's Dad, stevey was Suzie and Decoyman was Spaceman Spiff, but you probably knew most of that already.

Winning Players: (These players are eligible for the MVP award)
Pale
Atrun Zala
Zach
Plugabugz
Toruresu
Wandering
Decoyman
Arbok
Bustin98
Khushrenada
S-U-P-E-R
Golden Phoenix
Oohhhboy
TVman
18 days
Sessha
Sister Mary Le Fever
darkheart
Dasmos

The prize: One winning player may be voted on by all players as the MVP.  This is the player who played the best, allowed the most people to win, caused the most other people to lose, whatever.  It has to fit your description of MVP, not mine, you're voting.  You may state your case for the prize here if you want, but please do not vote for yourself.  This vote ends Wednesday night, probably.  I'll close it if it appears one sided.

BONUS PRIZE:  You may vote for the player you felt played most cunningly. Let's call this "Wildcard."  Please differentiate between the two in your vote.  The winner of this prize goes to the player, regardless of win or loss, you thought played the best.  It can not go to the same player who wins the MVP, just so he/she doesn't get double prizes.

The prizes:  Both players will receive a Virtual Console prize of their choice.  Winning players may defer prizes to runner-ups if they choose.

My Friend Code should go up some time tomorrow.

Congratulations Townies!

I'll talk about how the game went in a little bit, and things I would have done differently, if I could do it all over again.  I've got some new ideas, so watch out!

Please bold all your votes!

[ShyGuy]

Booooooo.

[stevey]

Vote Decoyman as MVP

Vote Stevey as Wildcard  

[Dasmos]

VOTE DASMOS AS MVP

[Arbok]

Shame we can't vote for Susie (stevey), considering she almost single handedly took down the mafia...

As a side note, I'm confused as to how Decoyman died. The rules read that there are "[townie] Calvins", so wouldn't that imply Stupendous Man and Spaceman Spiff? If so, wouldn't that grant them immunity from the rex's explosion? I was under that impression, as many will attest as I tried my hardest to find out who Spiff was to try and convince them to take down the rex for the "greater good" (as Shyguy will likely be able to vouche, as I sent him a PM under the impression he was Spiff at one point).

Anyway, I will go with Decoyman as he got: the ball rolling on the townie alliance with Khush, held it up when Hobbes perished, and landed the killing blow on old rex and went up in a blaze of glory.

Vote Decoyman

Pale deserves kudos, though, for quickly sniffing out who the rex was once the mafia was out of the equation.

[that Baby guy]

Oh, you're right.  I wasn't thinking.

Also, don't forget to vote for the Wildcard!  No one has yet! Suzie is eligible for that!

[ShyGuy]

UNVote Pale for MVP

Vote Kairon for Wildcard  

[GoldenPhoenix]

vote Decoyman

[Stogi]

Vote GP (MVP)

Vote KashogiStogi (WildCard)

[Kairon]

Vote Khush as MVP

As soon as he got the Hobbes role and declared it out loud for even Suzie to hear, I realize now, the mafia had lost. It's ridiculous. We didn't have a chance. The game was over on day one... Bah humbug!

Toruresu as Wildcard

Staying out of the townie alliance hid his role from the mafia. A smart move, considering. I think it's a pity that you guys won't give Toruresu the recognition he deserves for suspecting the townie alliance from the very beginning, and being right all along.

[wandering]

I guess it's time for another exciting PM retrospective.

Day Two:

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to: thatguy
I'd like to transmorgrify Khush.

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to: Khushrenada
I'm a townie. Can I join your alliance?

Khush says I can join, and gives me the codename "Moonraker". He also elaborates his reasons for voting for TVMan. He says that he thinks TVMan is mafia because TVMan is so quiet. According to Khush, when TVMan is a townie, he votes more.

Decoyman asks me why I haven't been posting in mafia threads.

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to: Decoyman
I usually skip the first day. I'll be active from here on out.

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to: ThatGuy
Will the night action I submitted take place tonight, or did it happen last night?

ThatGuy says it will take place tonight.

Day Three:

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to: Vudu
Any leads?

Vudu doesn't know anything except that there's "a mini-rally against me brewing in some players' PM boxes."

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to: 18 Days
Why do you think Khush is mafia?

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to: Pale
Why do you think Khush is mafia?

18 days doesn't respond. Pale says that he's not sure he does think Khush is mafia.

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to: ThatGuy
I'll transmogrify decoyman.

Day Four:

Decoyman, in a message I assume he sent to alot of people, begs me to contact him if I'm Calvin.

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to: Decoyman
I imagine some Calvins aren't contacting you because they're afraid you're Mrs. Wormwood...

Decoyman says he isn't Wormwood. He says Spak is Wormwood, and he's Spiff. He says that Rosalyn's been messing with him the whole game. He's going to reveal the fact that he's spiff in the thread later.

I believe him.

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to: Decoyman
Alright. I'm Calvin.

Decoyman is relieved. He asks if I know whether Toruresu is Stupendous Man.

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to: Decoyman
I have no idea who anyone is, sorry.

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to: Decoyman
I was wondering, would you be interested in pursuing a Calvin-Tyrannosaurus victory? I think that might be fun and exciting. Here's what we'd have to do:

- Find the remaining Calvins and the T-rex
- Work with them to get a massive bandwagon going against the T-Rex
- Sit back and laugh while everybody blows up except us

Decoyman says he'll think about it. He then asks me who I've used my power on.

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to: Decoyman
I've used it on you and khush.

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to: Decoyman

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P.S. - I've sent a comprehensive character list w/ roles (all theories Khush, I and others have spent the game developing) to my most trusted companions.

So, you don't trust me?

Decoyman says not to feel bad, he's only sent the list to three people. He suggests that, if I wanted to help him trust me, I could vote for Bustin.

Toruresu contacts me and tells me he's Stupendous man, and that he knows I'm Calvin.

Decoyman asks me how we could find the t-rex.

I start to write a letter suggesting that Decoyman write an open letter to the t-rex - but then I decide to write the open letter myself.

Day Five:

Decoyman asks me about the loophole.

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to: Decoyman
I lied. There's no loophole. I thought that if I just said "hey, t-rex, get in touch, I'll help you win", people would immediately realize what my role was and what I was planning.

By the way, sorry I missed the fact that you were trying for a last minute bandwagon change. I was too busy getting my tyrannosaurus bait ready.

ThatGuy asks me if I've really found a loophole. He also asks whether I'm trying to team up with, or trick, the t-rex.

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to: ThatGuy
I haven't found a loophole, and I'm going for a Calvin win.

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to: Pale
Any leads?

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to: Toruresu
I'm going to let you in on a secret. I haven't found a loophole in the rules. I'm trying to get the t-rex to contact me because I'm thinking about going for a Calvin-Tyrannosaurus victory. And I was wondering, would you be interested in pursuing such a victory? I think it could be fun. Here's what we'd have to do:

- Find the remaining Calvins and the T-rex
- Work with them to get a massive bandwagon going against the T-Rex
- Sit back and laugh while everybody blows up except us

Toruresu doesn't respond. Pale gets back to me and says he doesn't have any leads.

In the thread, Pale asks that people PM him and tell him their roles.

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to: Pale
I'm calvin.

I don't think stevey is mafia because Rosalyn voted for him yesterday.

ShyGuy asks me why I'm voting for him.

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to: ShyGuy
Well, I don't like to start bandwagons, and I feel reasonably sure that neither decoyman, stevey, or myself are mafia....

Decoyman says he needs to be sure that I'm Calvin. He asks why I'm interested in a Calvin/t-rex win, and why I'm not on the side of the townies.

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to: Decoyman
Because, I'm supposed to be Calvin, and Calvin would want explosions and mayham, and wouldn't want the awesome tyrannasuarus in an f-14 to die.

Also, if there's less people alive at the end of the game, there's a greater chance of me getting the prize.

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to: ThatGuy
Question. Do Hobbes and the Calvins win if no one is left alive?

No, ThatGuy says. He also mentions that, in the event of a Calvin-t-rex victory, Hobbes only wins if he's alive. This means the roles chart is incorrect; I change it accordingly.  

[Darkheart]

Haha wow I was so quiet last game and even though I was just a townie I am shocked not once was I accused of anything~!

[Spak-Spang]

Decoyman was invaluable...but I believe he got much of his information from Khush and over clues.

MVP:  Khushrenda.  
He had a brilliant play in declaring his role and then using that power against us.  

Decoyman could have been most valuable player, but he made some early mistakes that cost him a couple of townie kills, and allies.  If we were playing by normal vigilante rules he would have been dead very early.  And I just can't give him the win.

Wildcard:  Stevey  

Oh how I wish Stevey would not have targeted sole Mafia.  He had such a nice hit first day to really open up the possibilities of the Mafia winning.  And I think he could have easily, lasted longer and been more useful if I didn't believe Stevey was just going to run through the entire mafia and kill us all.  (Same with the T-Rex.)

But, Stevey hid well, and he was able to hurt the townies and Mafia the most.  Usually, the killer just takes potshots and hopes they can effect the game one way or another.  Almost everyone of Stevey's hits had dramatic effect in the game.  And so I believe he deserves the wildcard.  

[Pale]

Vote Decoyman MVP

Vote Vudu Wildcard (Can I do that?) =P

I have to say, I went back and forth SO many times suspecting Vudu.  The last day kind of sealed it for me though when he refused what I thought was a perfect strategy.  Decoy and I made a bloody team, but at least we got it figured out in the end.

This is the second mafia in a row that I had a role where I virtually NEVER had to worry about dying.  It makes playing mafia games a bit strange.

[decoyman]

MVP: Pale
Even if Khush got the townies going, and I kept them together for awhile after, Pale was the glue that held us together in the end. People didn't believe that I was Spiff for the longest time, and so when Pale came along, his powers guaranteed that people could trust him as Calvin's Dad. He also was highly suspicious of vudu towards the end, and rightly so... AND he came up with the strategy that, although bloody, would guarantee a townie win and ended up flushing out vudu. Pale's got my vote.

Honorable Mention: Kairon
It was a toss-up between Stevey and Kairon for Wildcard... Kairon infiltrated the townie ranks and helped nearly destroy the townies over the course of the game. I had suspicions of Patchkid, Crimm, ShyGuy, Spak, and vudu (and my "target" PMs to thatguy confirm these), but I never, NEVER suspected Kairon till the day before he was taken out. In fact, I worked up roles lists to send to my "most trusted allies" and sent the real one to Kairon and the fake to Arbok (DOH!). Oh, Kairon, I didn't think you had it in you to be a low-down, no-good, dirty rotten mobster. But you did. Now your true skills are out of the bag, and you won't be able to pull the same thing on me again next game.

I also want to say that I think vudu played the t-rex card nearly as well as he possibly could have. If he had used his message to contact me after that rule was added (and since most of my old townie friends were dead anyways ), I would have been sorely tempted to team up with him and Wandering to go for a Calvin/T-Rex victory. I probably wouldn't have, as it was fun strategizing with Pale... but there was a chance...    

[decoyman]

Although I didn't originally vote for Stevey for Wildcard (and I still almost want to change my vote), I wanted to do this:

"Ode to a Homicidal Little Girl Who Turned Into a Better Vigilante Than I Ever Was"

Stevey, it sucked that you lost your way to win the game early on. Even in this sacrifice, when you could have been protecting your key to winning the game, you used your power to take out a mafia member. Then another (I'm counting Spak). And another! You nearly single-handedly decimated the mafia, and you could've turned on everyone and gone on a rampage, but you didn't. (Of course, you would've been added to my hit list, then ). You took the bad guys out when I was unable, either due to Rosalyn, or because I was TOTALLY PLAYED FOR A FOOL (cough, >Kairon< ) .

Thank you, Stevey. This homicidal little girl will forever be a friend of Spiff's.

Edit: Sorry, Kairon, but after I wrote this ode, I knew what I had to do.

Wildcard: Stevey.  

[that Baby guy]

Anyone, absolutely anyone is eligible for the wildcard, and as some people have already deduced, you may vote for yourself on that category.

[decoyman]

Wandering, I also wanted to say that your post-game PM retrospective extravaganzas are teh r0x0rs. Were you the one vudu contacted with his message?

Thatguy, there's a lot I want to know (like, why you were angry at Stevey that one day ), but I'll wait to see your comments about the game. I'm sure 99% of it will be covered there.  

[Sessha]

MVP Vote Decoyman

He put himself out from the beginning, some townies were caught in the cross-fire but he had the best intentions and had a good sense of what was going on

Wildcard Vote Stevey

I was unaware how much he did until now so I think it's only fair.

This is the first mafia I have seen the end of alive so I am very happy about that

[Sister Mary LeFever]

MVP KHUSHRENADA

What can I say? He seems an expert at this.

WILDCARD STEVEY

Excellent job hiding in plain sight.

[that Baby guy]

Oh, the stevey thing?  It was the day I was two hours late to the thread, and so I hurried to post the next day's thread, and afterwards, I checked times on the PMs, and stevey's was two minutes late.  It was really no big deal, but he had all day to get it in, and I violated my rule there.  He was lucky I wasn't around when it closed, or else I would have caught it.  Of course, I'm exaggerating, because the death had no impact on the end of the game, but still, it could have.

As far as the rest of the game goes, I'll be getting to it this evening, most likely.

Oh, and mafia:  Your plan to make stevey kill Vudu by switching his action wouldn't have worked anyways, since Susie couldn't kill the T-Rex, nothing would have happened.  Of course, you had the T-Rex wrong, but still, I figured I'd mention that.

Also, I just realized I've been spelling "Susie" wrong this entire game, and no one pointed it out to me.  

[Plugabugz]

Vote Khush

Not sure about a wildcard yet. This is my first proper game at this.

[decoyman]

I just wanted to put in my vote for "Quote of the Game."

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Originally posted by: Kairon on Day 3
T-Rex could hit a mafia person. T-Rex holds all our fates in his near-vestigial, tiny, two-clawed hands.

I 'd

P.S. - Also, there was a real fight to get vudu voted out on Day 3... can you imagine what day 4 would've looked like? And we thought it was a doozy already, with four people dying... yeesh.

[vudu]

[GoldenPhoenix]

If I win MVP or wild card I will change my avatar.