Topic: What do people say about Nintendo being market leader again?

[darknight06]

It might not have been as hard as the Saturn, but it was still an uphill technical battle compared to the Playstation even if you took the cartridge space out of the equation.  That and there was also the high licensing fees that Sony corrected to a point as well which was probably the biggest reason for the mass exodus.  Sega wouldn't have been a good place to go for that either, in fact when Sony was third party to both companies it was one of the big things that they studied up hard on before releasing their system.  

Funny thing is, the cartridge prices were actually part of the reason I ultimately abandoned the N64 for the PS1, which I then abandoned for the PC for quite a while.  To be honest with you IMO the 32/64 bit era was a load of crock that I never want to see repeated again.  Last gen wasn't that much better either.

 

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: darknight06
It might not have been as hard as the Saturn, but it was still an uphill technical battle compared to the Playstation even if you took the cartridge space out of the equation.  That and there was also the high licensing fees that Sony corrected to a point as well which was probably the biggest reason for the mass exodus.  Sega wouldn't have been a good place to go for that either, in fact when Sony was third party to both companies it was one of the big things that they studied up hard on before releasing their system.  

Funny thing is, the cartridge prices were actually part of the reason I ultimately abandoned the N64 for the PS1, which I then abandoned for the PC for quite a while.  To be honest with you IMO the 32/64 bit era was a load of crock that I never want to see repeated again.  Last gen wasn't that much better either.

T_T The N64 era defined me. It was my golden age... *sniff*

[darknight06]

The Atari and NES eras defined me with the 2600 being my very first console, followed by the short lived 7800 and then the NES.  We skipped over the 5200 even though I had a cousin that had one so that's where I played that.  I vividly remember how game prices were $7 and below due to the crash.  I remember having the choice of either Jr. PacMan or Mario Bros. and choosing the former, which to this day I actually regret(I had PacMan and Ms.PacMan so I thought it was a no brainer).  I'll still play Atari games every now and then, especially the Activision bunch from back when they actually came up with great stuff. (H.E.R.O. is one of my favorite games along with several others)

[Chozo Ghost]

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Originally posted by: darknight06
It might not have been as hard as the Saturn, but it was still an uphill technical battle compared to the Playstation even if you took the cartridge space out of the equation.  That and there was also the high licensing fees that Sony corrected to a point as well which was probably the biggest reason for the mass exodus.  Sega wouldn't have been a good place to go for that either, in fact when Sony was third party to both companies it was one of the big things that they studied up hard on before releasing their system.  

Funny thing is, the cartridge prices were actually part of the reason I ultimately abandoned the N64 for the PS1, which I then abandoned for the PC for quite a while.  To be honest with you IMO the 32/64 bit era was a load of crock that I never want to see repeated again.  Last gen wasn't that much better either.

I agree. I got an N64 not long after it came out, and I only ever purchased two games for it because they were so damn expensive. Less than a year later I got my first PC, so I stuck with that for a long time and I only got back into console games in 2002 or so when I got my Gamecube. I figured I would give Nintendo another chance and hoped they learned from their past mistakes, and I think they did. They seem to be doing their best to court third parties into developing on their system, and I am also glad the cartridge format is gone forever.

Don't get me wrong; the games Nintendo made for the SNES and N64 were high quality gems the likes of which we seldom see today, but they were just too damn expensive. If you were a kid or a teenager in those days, you could only afford a small number of cartridge games a year. Now, thanks to the disc games, you can afford slightly more per year...

But what we see happening now which is quite interesting, is that 360 and PS3 games have brought the price UP again. It was an old tradition for console games to be $49.99 which began in the NES era, or perhaps earlier... but now they are $59.99 or maybe more in some cases. I applaud Nintendo for keeping the price of their new games at the traditional price point, and I think this is one of the keys to their success that is going to help them along in the years to come. I imagine there are more than a few Sony and/or Microsoft fans who are disenfranchised by the high price of those companies consoles and games, just like I was with Nintendo back during the N64 era.

[Stogi]

All my friends LOVE the Wii.

Sometimes, when we don't have sh!t to do, my friend will convince me to bring the Wii over to his place. I'll rent a couple of games, and he'll by the liquor. We'll then invite some broads over and that'll start the night till it's time to do something else .

In all honesty, the Wii is a major success with my friends that loved the PS2 and XBOX. My buddy with a PS3 is always telling me to bring over the Wii so he can play it. I just keep forgetting. To give a little perspective, my friends also love the Monkey Ball mini-games (especially Monkey Boxing). And while they like good graphics, there all about good hilarious gameplay.

Point in case: They'd rather play Winning Eleven on the PS2 then Fifa 08 on the 360 (which looks f*cking gorgeous).

People are willing to give Nintendo a chance. They just need something that appeals to them.

[Plugabugz]

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People are willing to give Nintendo a chance. They just need something that appeals to them.

So therefore: everyone please buy Pro Evo on Wii and DS so Konami finally get the hint.

[Gamebasher]

"In all honesty, the Wii is a major success with my friends that loved the PS2 and XBOX. My buddy with a PS3 is always telling me to bring over the Wii so he can play it. I just keep forgetting. To give a little perspective, my friends also love the Monkey Ball mini-games (especially Monkey Boxing). And while they like good graphics, there all about good hilarious gameplay.

Point in case: They'd rather play Winning Eleven on the PS2 then Fifa 08 on the 360 (which looks f*cking gorgeous).

People are willing to give Nintendo a chance. They just need something that appeals to them."

Yes, something which isnĀ“t too complicated. Something which is straightforward and easy to go to. Nintendo, like Sony, studied the market well before designing their next console (Wii), and understood suddenly the abundant need for something which was simpler, something which people could grasp easy and quick. Because the easier you can grasp it, the easier you can play it, and enjoy it. Nintendo understood that people nolonger have the time for complicated games with a steep learning curve. They knew that people would drop it the instant it got to be too much for them: money left on the table.

Nintendo is also very good at surprising people with new and fresh content, which is a huge difference compared to the ubiquitous samey-types of games that are filling up the market these days. The real eye opener, the head-turner, is defined by three keywords: simplicity, exciting and rewarding! That is the real reason why so many people wants a Wii.  

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: Gamebasher
Nintendo is also very good at surprising people with new and fresh content, which is a huge difference compared to the ubiquitous samey-types of games that are filling up the market these days. The real eye opener, the head-turner, is defined by three keywords: simplicity, exciting and rewarding! That is the real reason why so many people wants a Wii.

I've been playing Nintendo games since I was 3, but that isn't why I'm a Nintendo fanboi. I've been buying their games for years, but even if I wasn't a fanboi I'd still do that because they're quality games. These things are what make Nintendo products worth buying...

... But I'm a fan for exactly what you wrote there Gamebasher. I'm a fan because Nintendo has it in them to keep surprising me. Keep sending me on adventures. Keep on exceeding my expectations and dreaming beyond my ability to dream. Good games are worth playing, no doubt. But Nintendo games are worth believing in.