Topic: New GTA IV Trailer

[ShyGuy]

The cut-out effect reminds me of Red Steel.



WHOSE THE BLEEDING EDGE NOW HATERS?

[Kairon]

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I still want to buy Bully when it comes out for the Wii.

I'll get it for Wii, it is basically a toned down GTA but still a fun game.

Already reserved. You should too. Support our third parties. Yay. ::waves flag::

[Enner]

The trailer is slickly done and a joy to watch as a trailer. Though I guess I should be thinking how the gameplay is, I seem to be a sucker for some editing, pacing, and a little punchy music.

Speaking of the gameplay, DMA (well Rockstar North or whatever they're called now) seems to be really pushing more realism with this proper sequel. From what I read from the previews, cars take time to steal, guns are bought discretely from the boot of a car, and Nico's cellphone plays a heavy role communicating with bosses and luring targets. However, all that nifty stuff won't mean much to me if it isn't easy to shoot and kill. I never did like how combat felt in GTA3. Always I thought, "oh god, just give me a proper and simple dual analog set up". That's something that made Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction a joy to play (that, and airstrikes).
It seems that there are alot more indoor places than I remembered being in GTA3. I think that is a very nice thing for the series. Hopefully, there will be more sticking and deep consequences, whether they are strictly plot triggered or a bit more spontaneous. From my experiences with the series, it bothered me that you didn't have much of an effect on the world and vice versa. Then again, I can't really think of what I'm after by saying that.

As for the framerate, I never dwelled on its obvious choppiness when watching the trailer. Damn, I got to engossed to the music and dialogue.

[Dirk Temporo]

Mario Galaxy is Mario 64 2.0.

PROVE ME WRONG

Oh wait, you can't. So stop complaining about Rockstar doing the same thing over and over again when Nintendo is the king of rehashing.

New trailer makes me more excited about the game than I was before. Music was a perfect fit, and I think this game is going to have even better characters than the previous incarnations.

[Bill Aurion]

Are you seriously using the analogy of Mario 64 to Mario Galaxy as GTA to GTA?  Whatever floats your boat, I guess...*snicker*  

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
Mario Galaxy is Mario 64 2.0.

PROVE ME WRONG

Oh wait, you can't. So stop complaining about Rockstar doing the same thing over and over again when Nintendo is the king of rehashing.

New trailer makes me more excited about the game than I was before. Music was a perfect fit, and I think this game is going to have even better characters than the previous incarnations.

Now that is a pathetic comparison, Rockstar hasn't innovated GTA since GTA3, they add more stuff but that is it. Each Mario has been a self contained game that does different things each series, and Galaxy flips the genre on its head, not to mention NONE of NIntendo's games outdate the previous ones because are unique, and yes special experiences. All GTA fans care about is the next game, so they can shelve the previous one like Madden fans wait for the next game so they can shelve the previous game. Not to mention Nintendo has revolutionized and shown how genres should be done, what has Rockstar done besides GTA3? That is right, nothing, heck they can't even polish their games, they are chalk full of glitches and some of the most piss poor aiming controls around.

This doesn't even cover the fact that Rockstar is a one trick pony while Nintendo is one of the most diverse developers around when it comes to creating games.  

[Dirk Temporo]

Mario Galaxy is Mario 64 with better levels and unique gravity puzzles.

GTA: Vice City was GTA 3 with motorcycles, flyable aircraft, and set in Miami.

Vice City and San Andreas weren't even true sequels, which is why this one is being called GTA 4 instead of GTA 6. You can't tell everything about the game from a two minute trailer, contrary to whatever you may believe.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

So it's just a series of expansion packs? PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH

[Dirk Temporo]

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So it's just a series of expansion packs? PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH

Well, yeah. They made that pretty clear. They have, multiple times, come out and said "Vice City is not GTA4. Vice City is a continuation of GTA3."

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

More despicable than Mario Party.

[Mario]

The difference is GTA is constantly evolving while Mario is going backwards.

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Rockstar hasn't innovated GTA since GTA3

LOL! Maybe because that was the last installment.

[Dirk Temporo]

I'm fully expecting GTA4 to do some awesome new things. The hand-to-hand combat system has apparently been completely revamped, I'm expecting the physics system will be amazing, and hopefully include ragdoll physics.

Seasons would be cool too. It would be awesome if it could snow. But that's probably a pipe dream.

[Nick DiMola]

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Mario Galaxy is Mario 64 2.0.

I wish that was true...

Mario Galaxy < (Mario 64 2.0 == Mario Sunshine)

[Dirk Temporo]

I don't think so Tim.

[ryancoke]

You can definately tell that it's DMA (Rockstar North) developing GTA4. It has the same crappy yet strangly endearing animation and graphics and looks fun as hell.

As far as this Mario vs GTA orginality contest, I would say both are not entirely original. Mario Galaxy is a platformer (although a damn good one) and GTA4 is a sandbox crime game.  At least GTA isn't whored out to every other genre like Mario is.  I'm pretty sure Nintendo is working on "Mario, Amature Mushroom Land Gynecologist" and "Mario's Repo Man Fiesta"

[SixthAngel]

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
Mario Galaxy is Mario 64 with better levels and unique gravity puzzles.

GTA: Vice City was GTA 3 with motorcycles, flyable aircraft, and set in Miami.

Vice City and San Andreas weren't even true sequels, which is why this one is being called GTA 4 instead of GTA 6. You can't tell everything about the game from a two minute trailer, contrary to whatever you may believe.

The only thing that makes them not true sequels is Rockstar's word.  It is like arguing that Super Mario 64 isn't a sequel to SMB3 because Nintendo didn't put a 4 in front of or that any of the last two Mario's are a sequel because they lack numbers.  It is a sequel regardless of how it is named.

They made FIVE GTA games that are on the PS2. FIVE in one generation.  It took Nintendo three generations to make 3 Mario games.  GTA has too many sequels (games with the same gameplay and a few additions) in too short a time and has come down with a case of Maddenitis.  

[ryancoke]

to be fair to GTA, 2 of the sequels were The "Stories" games which are more like spin offs already.  They came out with budget pricetags which was really smart on ROckstar's part.  Just to be able to go back and play in GTA3's city with motorcycles is worth the price of admission.