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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1575 on: October 11, 2007, 09:45:34 AM »
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P.S.S.S. Green Mario = Luigi ain't coming to the party? It wouldn't traumatic, but he's a veteran for crying out loud!


You do remember that one of Mario's alternate costumes in Melee was the same thing right.  So don't worry, Luigi's still in the game.


I thought they were Silver/Red, Blue/Red, and Yellow/Purple, but maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1576 on: October 11, 2007, 09:49:18 AM »
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Character intros are DEFINITELY back: Yoshi pops out of an egg right at the beginning of that video when the match starts.


You can clearly see them in the two game videos links posted earlier. Mario has his warp pipe into, samus has her "door" intro, Link has his "magical warp" animation and Sonic jumps onto the stage.

I finally saw the videos and I noticed a couple of things...

1. Gameplay looks silky smooth and not twitchy, which is good

2. Did anyone noticed that the screen didn't shake at all in any of those videos? I asked because in the new Fall 2007 trailer the screen shakes like crazy. Maybe its because its a beta version and constant shaking could lock the game up.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1577 on: October 11, 2007, 09:50:08 AM »
Remember, every character had at least enough color schemes to match the team colors: red, green, and blue.

Until I see Dark Link, I won't be convinced it's not just a palette (or texture, really) swap.  That's not the same as costumes.  You can't retexture Mario to look like he's wearing a doctor's coat, but you can certainly give Link black clothes and glowing red eyes.

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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1578 on: October 11, 2007, 09:51:40 AM »
Well I hope that somebody captures what happens when Zero Suit Samus gets a Smash Ball.  As well as get some action playing as Bowser and some of the other characters, and why hasn't anybody played the new Metroid stage, I have to see that soon.


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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1579 on: October 11, 2007, 09:52:46 AM »
Oops, I hadn't seen the two earlier videos...

I guess I've no reason to care about the speed anymore: my original SSB group has LONG since dispersed and Brawl has online play so it doesn't matter.

EDIT: I might have to take that back...

The IGN videos look faster than the Gametrailer videos. Does anyone know if IGN speeds up their videos to fit more video into less time, effectively?
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1580 on: October 11, 2007, 09:55:23 AM »
As for the speed, I thought it looked a tad slower (then again, I only saw the duel matches from Game videos).
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1581 on: October 11, 2007, 09:55:30 AM »
I noticed that FLUDD stays on Mario's back for a while after it's used.  Maybe it's yet another item that can be knocked away from its user, like Wario's motorcycle and Diddy's jetpack.

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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1582 on: October 11, 2007, 09:59:51 AM »
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As for the speed, I thought it looked a tad slower (then again, I only saw the duel matches from Game videos).


Watch the ones at IGN here..

I can't tell if the poorer camerawork is playing tricks on my eyes or not...

What does everyone else think? Do these vids appear slower than Melee? I'm on allergy meds right now so I'm not likely the best judge anyway.

Watching them again, I think it's the fact that there are a bunch of fast characters and lots of effects that's fooling me. I think it is a bit slower.
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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1583 on: October 11, 2007, 10:02:50 AM »
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As for the speed, I thought it looked a tad slower (then again, I only saw the duel matches from Game videos).


Watch the ones at IGN here..

I can't tell if the poorer camerawork is playing tricks on my eyes or not...

What does everyone else think? Do these vids appear slower than Melee? I'm on allergy meds right now so I'm not likely the best judge anyway.


Its definitely hard to tell...The Game videos videos looked a tad slower, the animation was smooth. But the IGN videos are indeed very fast and the animation is twitchy.
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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1584 on: October 11, 2007, 10:13:27 AM »
OK, I'm not to sure but everyone watching the IGN video listen very closely you can hear some of the music.  Now the game says it's the Fire Emblem theme which is is but when listening closly it sounds like I can hear singing in it.  And when I listen even closer it sounds a lot like the Fire Emblem Opera version of the main theme that played in FE1 and FE6's commerical.

Fire Emblem 1 Commercial

Fire Emblem 6 Commercial

Around the 40 second mark to the 1 minute mark, if you listen closely I swear you can hear the womens voice hiting a high note and then the chorus singing Fire Emblem.

Seriously people, listen to the commericals and then listen closely to the video and I swear you can hear the Opera version of the song being played.  
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1585 on: October 11, 2007, 10:15:38 AM »
The IGN video looks to be much closer to Melee's speed than the Gametrailer videos . . .

I'm a little disappointed with the Fire Emblem stage. I thought there would be free fall elements to it when the stage changed but it seems that it just changes with a transition effect.

It's nice to see the character intros return though and I envy those guys who get to play it lol.

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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1586 on: October 11, 2007, 10:19:49 AM »
This is indeed confusing...Some of the Brawl trailers make the game look slow. Other make the game look very fast. Like I mentioned earlier the latest trailer features screen shaking like crazy while the new videos have no shaking at all.

This means that the speed issue will still be unsolved until we finally see it for ourselves, although I am leaning towards Brawl being the best of both worlds: slower than Melee but faster than the original.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1587 on: October 11, 2007, 10:35:36 AM »
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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1588 on: October 11, 2007, 10:54:17 AM »
Hey check out the new video at GameVideo's.

More Smash Bros

In this one we get to actually see the victory screen.  It looks like the victory screen in this game is based of the N64 versions with all the characters appear on screen with the winner in front and the loser positioned by what place they got.  
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1589 on: October 11, 2007, 11:39:12 AM »
C'mon guys...they all have timers on them! If one of them was slowed down or sped up, it'd be reflected in the seconds ticking by. Fer crying out loud, use some logic...

And no, I don't think they're running at a different speed. I didn't notice any difference between the videos, except they used different characters for each one, which would make it harder to easily compare them.

And nice results screen!

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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1590 on: October 11, 2007, 12:00:10 PM »
Diddy's Down+B move confirmed to be throwing banana peels...New gameplay clip...
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« Reply #1591 on: October 11, 2007, 12:10:46 PM »
Well looks like Power Stone 2 still has one up on Brawl with its level transitions!
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« Reply #1592 on: October 11, 2007, 12:12:44 PM »
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Well looks like Power Stone 2 still has only one thing up on Brawl period with its level transitions!

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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1593 on: October 11, 2007, 12:12:55 PM »
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« Reply #1594 on: October 11, 2007, 12:27:14 PM »
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Diddy's Down+B move confirmed to be throwing banana peels...New gameplay clip...



The guy from MTV seemed to be struggling with the classic controller, which is odd since it's a lot like the Cube layout and identical to the SNES one...

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« Reply #1595 on: October 11, 2007, 12:41:04 PM »
Well it looked like he's never even used the classic controller before...
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« Reply #1596 on: October 11, 2007, 12:47:25 PM »
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How many years did they drill the spin dash as Down+B and you think standard B attack.... for shame!


Confirmed.  Bill is shamed

Wrong, we're both incorrect...Spin Dash is Over+B, not Down+B...

Though now I wonder how you do Sonic's Lock-on Dive attack...


For old time sakes it seems to boil down to:
Side+B = Sonic games Down+B
Down+B(repeat) = Sonic games Down+B(repeat)

<Down Special Move: Spin Charge>

By holding the Control Stick down and tapping the special-move button, you charge up your spin and do a Spin Dash. This may feel better for some—there’s no pop.

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« Reply #1597 on: October 11, 2007, 12:50:35 PM »
The question is, though, whether or not Sonic has a different Down+B move when he's airborne, or if the dive is a Smash Attack...Personally I think the aerial special move makes more sense...
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion - SONIC + TRAILERS = WOW
« Reply #1598 on: October 11, 2007, 12:56:35 PM »
In one of the video it appears he drill down (at an angle) but I not sure....

also, Super Sonic awesome but dose anyone think it's too much like Yoshi's or Diddy Kong's FSs
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« Reply #1599 on: October 11, 2007, 01:01:40 PM »
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In one of the video it appears he drill down (at an angle) but I not sure....

Yeah, that's the dive I'm talking about...

Also, 1up hands-on...Little Mac confirmed as an Assist Trophy (Man, they keep ripping out potential characters, I wonder just who WILL be a character now...), Peach Final Smash, and Norfair details!

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