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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #325 on: March 11, 2009, 07:34:34 PM »
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #326 on: March 12, 2009, 01:55:59 PM »
Maybe if someone turned it into a emoticon I'd use it more.
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« Reply #327 on: March 12, 2009, 03:27:17 PM »
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #328 on: March 12, 2009, 03:43:48 PM »
There was, like, a two-minute trailer following South Park's season premier last night. IT LOOKS SO SWEET. I'm psyched about tomorrow!
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« Reply #329 on: March 12, 2009, 04:09:29 PM »
There was, like, a two-minute trailer following South Park's season premier last night. IT LOOKS SO SWEET. I'm psyched about tomorrow!

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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #330 on: March 12, 2009, 04:39:46 PM »
Listening to Joystiqs podcast about it now. They aren't hyping it too much, keep comparing it to RE4. I'm still interested in it, but it is definately a co-op player game. You can jump to earlier chapters in the game that you have completed and keep all your upgrades, which makes those levels more fun.

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« Reply #331 on: March 12, 2009, 04:42:54 PM »
Dino Crisis with RE4/5 controls and this level of graphical quality? And scientifically accurate dinosaurs? YES PLEASE.
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #332 on: March 12, 2009, 04:44:32 PM »
Scientifically accurate dinosaurs have all been dead for a minimum of 65 million years.

Oh ****, zombie dinosaurs!  Why didn't anyone think of this before!?
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« Reply #333 on: March 13, 2009, 12:52:07 AM »
An unfavorable review.
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« Reply #334 on: March 13, 2009, 02:08:29 AM »
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« Reply #335 on: March 13, 2009, 03:06:32 AM »
An unfavorable review.

The racism complaint thing is getting really old with the game. I may not be thrilled about the game itself but let's stop with the racism complaint, it is set in AFRICA. What about the subhuman portrayal of "X" group in the previous 4 games? They are ZOMBIES.
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« Reply #336 on: March 13, 2009, 11:05:28 AM »
Capcom takes a sh!t on consumers once again.

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/962/962318p1.html

Even though I don't care about multiplayer in a Resident Evil game, this is something that should be playable normally.  We should never have to pay for additional modes in games.  Especially when these modes are already in the damn game and all we're paying for is a key to unlock them. 

The way Capcom is going, in 5 years from now I bet we'll have to pay money just to keep playing the games.

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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #337 on: March 13, 2009, 11:31:17 AM »
That's the model Valve is going for. Subscription based gaming.

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« Reply #338 on: March 13, 2009, 12:13:53 PM »
That's the model Valve is going for. Subscription based gaming.

At least Valve is giving new modes for free with the next DLC for L4D.
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #339 on: March 13, 2009, 01:38:13 PM »
That's the model Valve is going for. Subscription based gaming.

They've been updating TF2 for over a year now for absolutely free and L4D's content is free as well.

Their model is more along the lines of release a game then add value to it to encourage more people to buy it later on down the line.

The review (http://www.crispygamer.com/gamereviews/2009-03-12/resident-evil-5-xbox-360.aspx) on RE5 is rather interesting.

If the way he describes that scene is true, then yes, that does sound rather racist, and the excuse of "It's made by Japanese people" just doesn't hold any water.

After all, RE5 is being released on two consoles that have very little presence in the Japanese market as is. The game is guaranteed to sell more copies on the 360 in the US than it will on the PS3 in Japan so saying the game and characters are designed for Japanese audiences just won't fly anymore.
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #340 on: March 13, 2009, 01:52:11 PM »
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If the way he describes that scene is true, then yes, that does sound rather racist, and the excuse of "It's made by Japanese people" just doesn't hold any water.

I especially hate the racist portrayal of white people in RE1 and Latinos in RE4. Not to mention the SEXIST portrayal of only men as zombies in RE1l. Give me a freaken break. I especially like how this idiot reviewer glosses over the fact that your partner is African as well, but I guess she isn't african enough because her skin is lighter? Talk about racist in itself. Looks like yet another person trying to see racism in places where it wasn't intended. I may just buy the game out of spite for idiots like this reviewer.

Heck the BBFC deemed that one scene where the white woman was turned into a zombie to NOT BE RACIST. If they, of all watchdogs deem it as safe then that tells you who is overreacting.
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #341 on: March 13, 2009, 02:06:02 PM »
Looks like yet another person trying to see racism in places where it wasn't intended.

I'm specifically talking about this example:

Things get more troubling when a scream erupts from a nearby alleyway, and Chris and Sheva spot a zombie dragging off a white woman by the hair. Chris and Sheva give chase. When they find the woman, something has happened to her. She falls limply into Chris' arms. "Are you OK?" Chris asks repeatedly. The woman, of course, promptly transforms into a zombie. She has been infected.

Chris and Sheva are forced to destroy this abomination. It happens so quickly that you don't really have a chance to unpack what's going on here; you don't think about what you're doing until after you've done it. The logical moment-after question is this: What the f*** is a white woman wearing a thigh-length black dress doing wandering around in the middle of this nowhere African village? Did her plane bound for fashion week in Madrid make a wrong turn somewhere?


I was the very first to denounce the cries of racism about the game, black zombies being zombies like any other zombie, but the aforementioned scene is unnecessary to the point that I have to not only question its inclusion but also start to admit that this does, in fact, feel racist.

A black male zombie dragging a pretty, well-dressed white woman away by the hair only to have her infected and defiled as a result? That's not exactly subtle symbolism.

The BBFC can form their opinions and I can form mine.
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« Reply #342 on: March 13, 2009, 02:09:56 PM »
Have you thought maybe because they view the audience as mostly white so putting white woman in danger with ANY zombie would reverberate more? I seem recall plenty of white women being put in danger in tons of games, it isn't something that is unique to RE5 which happens to have African zombies. Thankfully most people will see how ridiculously politically correct this is. and may see it as perhaps racially insensitive, but NOT racist. If I have a problem it is that the white woman getting attacked or killed by "X" monster is ridiculously cliched and stupid. Let's mix up the races a bit ok? Or perhaps have a WHITE man getting drug into the back alley and killed by black zombies, that would be different (then again in RE5 that would be symbolic for gay black men taking advantage of weak white men right?).
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #343 on: March 13, 2009, 02:14:48 PM »
An unfavorable review.

I have a hard time taking the guy's opinion seriously when one of the pros listed is the game is Shorter than Resident Evil 4.
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #344 on: March 13, 2009, 02:15:08 PM »
It would have made more sense if it was a native woman being dragged out by her hair, or how about another local man? Of course, they wanted to make you think a rape or other violence was going to happen. In RE4, the white woman was there for some sort of reason.

The scene seems to have brought in another aspect of the story, only to have the game play without even acknowledging there was another story to tell. It was poor judgement to have the scene in the game.

BTW, I guess I'm behind on my thoughts of Valve. The 'charging for more game' brought back what they have said in the past about Half-Life 2 and the episodes. I guess its not as applicable since its more like expansion packs and not charging for extra modes that should have been included in the first place. I hope Capcom takes some heat for it.

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« Reply #345 on: March 13, 2009, 02:20:00 PM »
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The scene seems to have brought in another aspect of the story, only to have the game play without even acknowledging there was another story to tell. It was poor judgement to have the scene in the game.

Like I said it is fair to say it may have racially insensitive. But the situation is so cliche in games now I really don't think they intended to be racist. Then again I'm so sick of being so politically incorrect I'm not going to hold it against them beyond it being stupidly cliched. So in closing, the game needs more gay black zombies dragging more white men away, or how about black women dragging a white man away? I should be a designer for capcom!

Better yet maybe you could culturally sensitive black zombies that take people, men and women, of all races into the back alley. That would be the best!
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« Reply #346 on: March 13, 2009, 02:28:09 PM »
Are we seriously still stuck on alleged racist undertones in this game?

Boy howdy, when I see IGN and GI give great reviews to RE5, a game I was already excited about, I think "Wow, this game is gonna kick ass. I can't wait to see what Wesker's got up his sleeve this time." But it seems like a large portion of the intertubes is overthinking this and getting stuck on the fact that Chris is white and he's shooting Africans.

If the game took place in the slums of India, he'd be shooting Indians. If the game took place in Antarctica, he'd be shooting penguins. The RE5 guys didn't set the game in Africa so that we could shoot black people. They set it in Africa because Africa is where humanity arose, and it would be fitting to see the next stage of our evolution (T-Virus-infected Plagas) also take place there. Instead of hating on Chris Redfield for shooting black zombies, why not place the blame on Wesker, who is infecting poor African villages in the first place?
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« Reply #347 on: March 13, 2009, 02:32:51 PM »
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penguins

Penguins dragging white women away would actually be pretty creative. Then again since they are black and white it could be symbolizing that mixed race zombies like molesting white women as well (or mixed race penguins!), can't have that.

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blame on Wesker, who is infecting poor African villages in the first place?

You know, you bring up an interesting point, I am actually offended that the game is pushing the stereotype that white people like infecting blacks with various viruses. ;)
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Re: Resident Evil 5 is the greatest thing ever.
« Reply #348 on: March 13, 2009, 02:39:33 PM »
So are you saying that if it was a black woman being dragged by the hair and the implied rape is less racist?  It would of still shown a black Zombie attack a female witht he implied rape.

I think the above logic is just as racist if not more so.  Its like people are trying to find racism everywhere and how they do it is when there is two different races protrayed with the minority being portrayed supposedly negatively it must be racist.  That is stupid...and it is offensive because it means people don't cry out when it is blacks violently attack blacks.  Dumb.

Let's just look at the scene for what it is.  A shocking scene where an attractive girl is in the wrong place at the wrong time is attacked and killed.  Yes, they tried to make it more emotional with the idea of becoming a Zombie could be compared to rape.  But this type of comparison to death/Zombie/Vampire transformation has been done before in movies. 

 

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« Reply #349 on: March 13, 2009, 02:48:48 PM »
Like I said it is fair to say it may have racially insensitive. But the situation is so cliche in games now I really don't think they intended to be racist. Then again I'm so sick of being so politically incorrect I'm not going to hold it against them beyond it being stupidly cliched.

I won't deny that games make use of the damsel in distress concept to the nth degree, but the scene was both illogical and unnecessary which is why it pangs of racism. He's right on his first point: what the **** IS a pretty white woman in a thigh-length dress doing in the middle of a remote African village overrun with zombies?

If this was a village FILLED with white people, sure, it could happen and the symbolism would be more subtle and the racism element would be more easily questioned. But the simple fact is that the character described (and pictured in one of the screenshots) no more belongs in this village than a clown belongs at a funeral (unless it's a funeral for another clown or something).

And above all else, the scene is COMPLETELY unnecessary. I'm guessing that, at this point in the game, the player has already been attacked by hordes of zombies already, leaving no doubt in their mind that, yes, these hordes of zombies are dangerous and aggressive. What purpose does having a zombie drag a random character who completely doesn't fit the surroundings away serve? To make some fleeting statement about the death of beauty? A pretty black woman would've worked just fine for that.

Here's the picture of the woman in question. Blonde hair, little black dress. Huh?
http://media.crispygamer.com/screenshot/Title178/re5_1882.jpg

If it's all just Japanese callousness, then that too could stand to change. I agree wholeheartedly that Japanese devs need to stop thinking that their games are written and designed for Japan and Japan alone, especially when the VAST majority of RE5's sales will without a doubt be in other markets.
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