Author Topic: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers (Read 30231 times)

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #50 on:** May 25, 2007, 02:27:05 PM »

....he kinda looks like that chick from Baten Kaitos, but I'll agree he does look more like a dude than any recent FF male lead. Shouldn't they use a different title if the game is gonna be so different than FF:CC.

Enough complaining.....Looks very nice, it does interest me, I'm gonna shut up now.

mantidor · « **Reply #51 on:** May 25, 2007, 02:56:33 PM »

I just rewatched the first trailer and I prefer its art style over this one, its kind of generic, I like the original FF:CC characters much more.

Crimm · « **Reply #52 on:** May 25, 2007, 02:56:39 PM »

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....he kinda looks like that chick from Baten Kaitos

Xelha?

Ya know, I said earlier "there's only one person!?" I should have looked up. There's clearly a second character in the banner, and I'm not totally sure that the male character is the one in the video. It could be, but with a different outfit. Either way, I don't think customization is as dead as some have thought. I would be happy just looking different based on what you have.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #53 on:** May 25, 2007, 03:19:57 PM »

I agree with Terranigma on this one.

It looks like a S-E ps2 game + textures.

It's like S-E got their "best & brightest" ps2 developers on the job, and they didn't learn anything new.

It may be that the video is just small and shittee, but really, FFCC on GameCube did more interesting things visually.

Ceric · « **Reply #54 on:** May 25, 2007, 03:35:16 PM »

Which they did in Crystal Chronicle each weapon looked different and like. Their is a lot I hope the keep from the first. I like the physical person a little more. Though I do wish they did have the clothes a little more like CC.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #55 on:** May 25, 2007, 03:54:31 PM »

FFCC also did boob physics and self shadowing, which were not present in any ps2 Square game (that i care to be aware of).

Kairon · « **Reply #56 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:53:46 PM »

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but really, FFCC on GameCube did more interesting things visually.

Not true... this one has AIRSHIPS.

Pittbboi · « **Reply #57 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:10:16 PM »

I agree that visually, the first CC game did seem a little more interesting in some areas. But I still have to say I prefer the new art direction and character designs; to me it indicates that Square Enix may actually be taking this game seriously and wants to provide a full-fledged single player RPG experience for the Wii. That alone is going to require more resources than the first CC did, and there's going to be less to devote to making things look pretty (even though I think it looks very good). This game looks to be a much bigger, more involved project than the first game and has that epic feel all the numbered FFs have but the first CC lacked. The Wii needs an RPG like that.

Crimm · « **Reply #58 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:30:23 PM »

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but really, FFCC on GameCube did more interesting things visually.

Not true... this one has AIRSHIPS.

I swear they stole that airship directly out of Skies of Arcadia. I think it was Alfonso's ship.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #59 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:32:43 PM »

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Originally posted by: Adrock Smash_Brother, you're about to get served.

First of all, if it's March 2008, then no, I'm not about to get served. I'd be getting served in 9 months. If I went and knocked my GF up right now, I wouldn't be telling people, "I'm ABOUT to have a kid." cause they'd already be looking for cigars and I wouldn't even have the nursery planned.

Second, by March 2008, the Wii will be well over 15 million sold (worldwide). Will the PS3 have broken 4 million sold, even?

Third, what good do you think a port to the 360 is going to do? RPGs have typically done ass-poor on the 360, and the 360 is still dead in Japan with a whopping 400,000 units sold.

Fourth, we're talking about total overall sales. I expect FF:CC on the Wii to have some LONG legs, longer than FF13 on the PS360.

In all situations, I think the Wii is poised to push assloads more copies of this game than FF13.

And on another note, good GOD, people: you're criticizing the graphics based on a 200 pixel trailer. Wait until we have some better footage to go on before we make any judgments.

Also, the fact that we're not talking about chibi characters any longer means a lot more gamers will look at this as a "serious", "epic" FF game instead of a crap spinoff.

In fact, when was the last time Square gave an "epic" trailer to a game which they weren't putting some SERIOUS effort into?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #60 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:52:12 PM »

How about if we rephrase that as "FFCC will sell more on the Wii than FF13 on the PS3"?

I have a feeling the low number of different things shown in the trailer is just because nothing else is in a presentable state. Wouldn't surprise me if they just hadn't added most of the special effects yet.

Adrock · « **Reply #61 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:06:35 PM »

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A lot of words

Cripes, man. Are you really trying to turn this into a debate? You wrote all that, citing sales data and everything, in response to a throwaway comment of mine. Come on, is it even possible to say "you got served" seriously? I actually don't care which game sells more. And just to be clear, I think FF13 will be one of the few PS3 games to remain exclusive. MGS4 is a different story.

BUT anyway...... I do agree with you in that judging the graphics based on the one trailer is pretty silly.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #62 on:** May 25, 2007, 10:07:31 PM »

Don't confuse judgement with OBSERVAYSHUNS.

FF13 will outsell CC after it's ported to 360.

Ceric · « **Reply #63 on:** May 26, 2007, 04:42:24 AM »

I finally got to hear the music. I sort of liked the high adventure tune. Makes me more hopeful about tthe game.

mantidor · « **Reply #64 on:** May 26, 2007, 06:09:08 AM »

why are there sonic rings in the game? O_o

Ceric · « **Reply #65 on:** May 26, 2007, 06:45:37 AM »

Because soon Square-Enix will announce an acquisition of Sammy.

Kairon · « **Reply #66 on:** May 26, 2007, 08:58:22 AM »

God, can you imagine the meltdown in certain quarters of the internet (and in certain quarters in SE and Sony) if FF:CC:CB outsold FF:XIII?

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #67 on:** May 26, 2007, 09:30:07 AM »

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Cripes, man. Are you really trying to turn this into a debate?

Nah, not really. I just figured the "9 months" comment would be good for a laugh.

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Don't confuse judgement with OBSERVAYSHUNS.

Unless you play Wii on a TV with 320x240 resolution, then it's impossible to call it an observayshun.

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FF13 will outsell CC after it's ported to 360.

I'm not denying that it will be ported, but why would a 360 port "save" it?

Look at this list...

A main series FF game has NEVER sold more in the US than it has in Japan. Why would a 360 port, a console which is dead in Japan and is NOT a console purchased for RPGs, suddenly save sales of the game?

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God, can you imagine the meltdown in certain quarters of the internet (and in certain quarters in SE and Sony) if FF:CC:CB outsold FF:XIII?

Considering that FF13 will cost at least triple what it costs to make FF:CC:CB, yeah, I can.

Honestly, I think this was Square's plan. This trailer looks so incredibly much like a "mainstream" FF trailer that I can't help but believe that Square hasn't counted the Wii out as a possible platform for incredible sales of the FF franchise.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #68 on:** May 26, 2007, 09:48:14 AM »

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Honestly, I think this was Square's plan. This trailer looks so incredibly much like a "mainstream" FF trailer that I can't help but believe that Square hasn't counted the Wii out as a possible platform for incredible sales of the FF franchise.

That what I'm thinking as well. After the PS3 bombed and the Wii took over Japan, I'm sure it caused Square to go crazy. It looks like they're trying their hardest to get main the Final Fantasy fans to buy a Wii for this game by making it like this so it'll give them a reason to dumb Sony and move the main series to the Wii. Now it's too late for FF13, but I fully believe that FF14 will be a Wii exclusive several years from now.

IceCold · « **Reply #69 on:** May 26, 2007, 10:12:30 AM »

FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL CHRONICLES: THE PALLBEARERS

AM I RIGHT?

Adrock · « **Reply #70 on:** May 26, 2007, 10:53:18 AM »

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Nah, not really. I just figured the "9 months" comment would be good for a laugh.

Yeah, but then you listed arguments.... each of which has a valid counterpoint.

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A main series FF game has NEVER sold more in the US than it has in Japan. Why would a 360 port, a console which is dead in Japan and is NOT a console purchased for RPGs, suddenly save sales of the game?

I really don't want to get into it, but consider two things:
1. A FF spin-off has never sold more than a main series entry (XI notwithstanding).
2. 360 never had a main series Final Fantasy (once again, XI notwithstanding).

I expect FFXIII to sell as well as a main series Final Fantasy title is expected to sell because it's such a powerful franchise. And I think it can sell even as a PS3 exclusive title. Square-Enix likes making a lot of money by the easiest means possible. That's why they've got so many damn remakes and ports on the horizon. Porting FFXIII isn't going to be easy since the game is being developed on Square-Enix's White Engine, built specifically for PS3. It won't be cheap or easy, the exact opposite of making a port. However, I think a 360 port of FFXIII will depend partly on the performance of The Last Remnant on 360 versus PS3.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #71 on:** May 26, 2007, 12:01:24 PM »

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I really don't want to get into it, but consider two things:
1. A FF spin-off has never sold more than a main series entry (XI notwithstanding).
2. 360 never had a main series Final Fantasy (once again, XI notwithstanding).

Yeah, but spinoffs never see the same amount of love that the main series does.

The fully epic, voiced over, huge budget FF titles sell very well, and if Square is putting that kind of effort into this game then it does stand a chance to sell as well.

Even with the brief trailer, I look at this game and it reminds me of the trailers you'd always see for main series FF games.

I just can't see the 360 being the salvation for an ailing RPG. I also can't see the PS3 version selling that well considering that it would probably have to sell to close to 100% of the userbase to break even and that never happens.

Adrock · « **Reply #72 on:** May 26, 2007, 03:16:36 PM »

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Yeah, but spinoffs never see the same amount of love that the main series does.

FFX-2 and Dirge of Cerberus were major projects for Square-Enix. It doesn't really matter. The main series is the main series.

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The fully epic, voiced over, huge budget FF titles sell very well, and if Square is putting that kind of effort into this game then it does stand a chance to sell as well.

That's a big "if." And I don't see how you could possibly come to that conclusion from the trailer. Almost half of it was made up of title cards. When was the last time you've seen a trailer for a main series Final Fantasy? The Crystal Bearers looks pretty good, but it's really not that close.

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I just can't see the 360 being the salvation for an ailing RPG. I also can't see the PS3 version selling that well considering that it would probably have to sell to close to 100% of the userbase to break even and that never happens.

Well, I think you're looking at it from a Nintendo fan's perspective. After 2 generations, it's nice to see Sony sweat for a change. Still, I don't think Sony is doing as bad as they really should be, all things considering. FFXIII will probably come out Fall/Winter 2008. I expect PS3 to be significantly less than $600 by then. Final Fantasy fans will buy PS3 for XIII.

anubis6789 · « **Reply #73 on:** May 26, 2007, 04:17:25 PM »

I was not to excited about this game before the new trailer, but boy am I interested in it now. My only problem is that it looked to be almost exclusively single player, were as I was hoping for a multi-player game, but then again it was just a trailer, and not a long one at that.

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5. There isn't a single sword in that trailer.

I actually find that quite refreshing, I have always wondered why all the main characters have to wield swords. I am happy that the only weapon you even see him handle is what appears to be some sort of chain gun.

By the way, does anyone else find the music to at first, during the opening of the trailer, sound like the soundtrack to Titanic, then morph into the theme from Back to the Future by the end?

Adrock · « **Reply #74 on:** May 26, 2007, 05:32:31 PM »

I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. There will probably be swords in the game.

My brother tells me that the music at the beginning of the Crystal Bearers trailer is a remix of "Prologue" from the Final Fantasy IV soundtrack.

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