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RE:FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #100 on: May 29, 2007, 03:17:48 PM »
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It's a Final Fantasy game. Why would it be set on the same planet as the first? Also, I hope it's not. That miasma can go f*ck itself.


If memory serves the Miasma goes away at the end of CC.  I liked the CC universe and like to actually explore it.


CC had an end? I only assumed by the seemingly endless amount of "go here and get crystals" from the same areas over and over again that it just went on forever.
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #101 on: May 29, 2007, 03:54:14 PM »
Yeah, CC had a pretty solid ending, and actually had a decent story if you followed it.  I guess most people don't give it a chance, though.

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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #102 on: May 29, 2007, 04:07:07 PM »
The only reason I know though was that I ruined it when I randomly flipped to that part in a guide when I was looking for a material location.  Once I knew I didn't have the motivation to get enough memories.
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #103 on: May 29, 2007, 04:45:21 PM »
Smash_Brother, clearly we aren't convincing each other either way so I'll simply say that I really don't care which sells more. No use prolonging this. I could argue more; I really just don't feel like it anymore.

Anyway, I still want multiplayer and it was the main reason I was interested in Crystal Bearers when it was announced (surely, they would fix the issues I had with the original). With or without multiplayer though, I won't say no to a solid title. Here's hoping CB delivers.

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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #104 on: May 29, 2007, 06:04:53 PM »
People have faith in Square pulling off something more ambitious than Kingdom Hearts/Crystal Chronicles hacky-slash realtime mechanics?

WOW.  You made me say.
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RE:FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #105 on: May 29, 2007, 06:40:51 PM »
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Smash_Brother, clearly we aren't convincing each other either way so I'll simply say that I really don't care which sells more. No use prolonging this. I could argue more; I really just don't feel like it anymore.


Watch. It'll suck just because I've lobbied so hard for it.
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #106 on: May 30, 2007, 12:47:53 AM »
SE is just covering their collective butt. After the whole debacle with Nintendo they're just trying to make sure that they don't piss Sony off and then find themselves in another tight spot with no way out but concessions. CC will almost certainly outsell XIII, and probably by a wide margin. That, of course, also has to do with when these games come out. There's no release date for CC and the last I heard in regards to XIII was that it probably won't be out until the end of 2008 at the earliest. If things continue the way they are only a small fraction of Wii buyers will have to purchase CC in order for it to outsell XIII even if it sells at a 1 to 1 ratio on the PS3, which it certainly won't. What's probably going to happen is the main FF line will continue to be on the PS3 but SE will shift their resources over to CC franchise development. CC will basically replace FF as their main franchise. That way they don't piss off Sony as they'll still retain FF yet they'll have access to the massive Wii user base and will still be free to focus their resources wherever they please.

CC isn't just the Wii version of FF. It's a loophole for SE to shift resources to the Wii without causing major issues with Sony. Nintendo wasn't too upset when FF shifted to the PSX but I'm sure Sony would pitch a massive bitch fit if the main franchise were to suddenly shift over to the Wii. Why else hasn't XIII already been moved to the Wii? Everyone can already see the writing on the wall. It's only a matter of time before most developers are going to have to admit to it.

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RE:FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #107 on: May 30, 2007, 05:17:33 AM »
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People have faith in Square pulling off something more ambitious than Kingdom Hearts/Crystal Chronicles hacky-slash realtime mechanics?

WOW.  You made me say.

More faith than Ninty putting Daisy in as a separate character in Smash Brothers, at least...

"Nintendo wasn't too upset when FF shifted to the PSX but I'm sure Sony would pitch a massive bitch fit if the main franchise were to suddenly shift over to the Wii. Why else hasn't XIII already been moved to the Wii?"

Well, it no longer matters...SE likes money, so they'll go to wherever it is, no matter how much Sony whines about it...About XIII, SE claims they are out to support all the consoles evenly, so I'd wait until after XIII comes out (and potentially flops) before seeing where SE starts allocating all of its resources...
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RE:FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #108 on: May 30, 2007, 05:34:37 AM »
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SE is just covering their collective butt. After the whole debacle with Nintendo they're just trying to make sure that they don't piss Sony off and then find themselves in another tight spot with no way out but concessions. CC will almost certainly outsell XIII, and probably by a wide margin. That, of course, also has to do with when these games come out. There's no release date for CC and the last I heard in regards to XIII was that it probably won't be out until the end of 2008 at the earliest. If things continue the way they are only a small fraction of Wii buyers will have to purchase CC in order for it to outsell XIII even if it sells at a 1 to 1 ratio on the PS3, which it certainly won't. What's probably going to happen is the main FF line will continue to be on the PS3 but SE will shift their resources over to CC franchise development. CC will basically replace FF as their main franchise. That way they don't piss off Sony as they'll still retain FF yet they'll have access to the massive Wii user base and will still be free to focus their resources wherever they please.

CC isn't just the Wii version of FF. It's a loophole for SE to shift resources to the Wii without causing major issues with Sony. Nintendo wasn't too upset when FF shifted to the PSX but I'm sure Sony would pitch a massive bitch fit if the main franchise were to suddenly shift over to the Wii. Why else hasn't XIII already been moved to the Wii? Everyone can already see the writing on the wall. It's only a matter of time before most developers are going to have to admit to it.


This is exactly what I was saying.

This way, Square can not step on anyones toes when they move resources to the Wii because Sony still technically has a FF series, just that it'll be on hold indefinitely.

Their new tagline should be "Clone the Fantasy".
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #109 on: June 28, 2007, 07:13:57 AM »
A tidbit of new info from Nintendo Power:
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9. Final Fantasy: The Crystal Bearers - The game takes place in the Chronicles world, which includes the four races from Crystal Chronicles…the game starts you off as a “mature hero”, meaning the hero is more complete unlike the usual Final Fantasy titles where the hero is younger and weaker (less experienced)…game is following the Final Fantasy tradition of being “very story-driven”, lots of cinematic events etc


Four races? Very story-driven? Lots of cinematic events? Oh yes, Squeenix, give it to me how you know I like it!

Though I am a bit concerned about the "mature hero" thing. I think it's a cool idea in theory, but I hope there's still ways to 'level-up' and customize the guy. You know, hidden items and abilites...ultimate weapons, stuff like that. That's part of what makes an RPG an RPG. I don't want to go through the game with an already completed character. Or, maybe the 'heroo' is mature, and he has a band of buddies along with him that you have to level up. That would be cool.

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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #110 on: June 28, 2007, 07:45:52 AM »
"Four races? Very story-driven? Lots of cinematic events? Oh yes, Squeenix, give it to me how you know I like it!"

So you like no gameplay tidbits at all?  How boring...
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #111 on: June 28, 2007, 07:53:12 AM »
Being Mature is different then being complete.  If he/she does have a team I hope they play off each other Hellboy style.  One of my favorite parts about Hellboy is that they jump around timeline wise and one thing reminds them of another back in the day.
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #112 on: June 28, 2007, 08:14:53 AM »
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So you like no gameplay tidbits at all? How boring...


Well, I'm pretty sure those will be coming. I'm just happy they confirmed that this game is going to have elements common in the traditional Final Fantasy series. I didn't like the first CC because it was just really basic gameplay without the story-driven cohesion and level of immersion that makes the numbered series the complete package. It seems as though they're pulling all the stops to make this a good RPG that isn't lacking in any area...unlike the first CC.  

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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #113 on: June 28, 2007, 09:02:42 AM »
I hope "mature hero" means no emo.

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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #114 on: June 28, 2007, 09:22:47 AM »
Mature hero = Captain Falcon

This puny Crystal Kid has a lot to live up to.
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #115 on: June 28, 2007, 09:24:15 AM »
Because mature men run around in spandex, am I right?
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« Reply #116 on: June 28, 2007, 09:28:17 AM »
Don't be confused by Melee's shiny mapping.  Falcon only wears genuine leather made from McCloud foxskin.
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #117 on: June 28, 2007, 03:21:54 PM »
Because mature men have S&M fetishes, am I right?
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #118 on: June 28, 2007, 03:37:59 PM »
Loli's aren't allowed to speak about maturity.

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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #119 on: June 28, 2007, 03:53:56 PM »
Oh snap.
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #120 on: June 28, 2007, 04:28:39 PM »
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #121 on: June 28, 2007, 07:25:07 PM »
If you read some interviews from the past, they wanted to have the player feel like they're already playing someone who's got awesome powers. That's what they mean by mature: they mean a character who's already awesome powerful from the get go.
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RE:FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #122 on: June 28, 2007, 07:45:26 PM »
So... it's going to be like the beginning of Metroid Prime, before you lose all you equipment?
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #123 on: June 28, 2007, 07:46:38 PM »
I sort of doubt you'll have everything right at the beginning of the game...You'll be "powerful," but you can always be "more powerful," if you get my drift... =)
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RE: FFCC: The Crystal Bearers
« Reply #124 on: June 28, 2007, 08:17:06 PM »
Quick question: Crystal Chronicles for Wii is 1 player only, I gather, right?

I was rather  hoping for at least the option of a 4 player game.  
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