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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2007, 02:48:12 PM »
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FFXII was the best RPG of last gen. There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.


Agreed. I hated the idea of them taking out random battles before the game was released, but after playing the game, random battles just seem...archaic. Contrary to what some people say *cough*pap*cough* I was surprised by just how much strategy was required in the battles. The game didn't play itself, I was constantly overriding commands and changing gambits to fit the situation. I would play that game all over again if it were on the Wii.

Also, I guess it could be GoNintendo getting excited...but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii got a piece of FFXIII, especially if the DS gets a game.

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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2007, 02:59:54 PM »
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And this is still just speculation. Probably Square messing with the fanboys.


While I agree with this in full, it seems to be more the Sony fans they enjoy messing with than the Nintendo fans as of late.
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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2007, 03:06:12 PM »
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FFXII was the best RPG of last gen. There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.


Agreed. I hated the idea of them taking out random battles before the game was released, but after playing the game, random battles just seem...archaic. Contrary to what some people say *cough*pap*cough* I was surprised by just how much strategy was required in the battles. The game didn't play itself, I was constantly overriding commands and changing gambits to fit the situation. I would play that game all over again if it were on the Wii.

Also, I guess it could be GoNintendo getting excited...but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii got a piece of FFXIII, especially if the DS gets a game.


I haven't played FFXII (even though I have it), so I can't talk about the engine, except that some love it while others hate it.

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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2007, 06:20:50 PM »
Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.  
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge graphics.  
The FF series has always been known for bleeding edge graphics for any platform period.
The Wii can't even handle first gen PS3 graphics let only FF13.

2.)The game is being built on the "White Engine".  The White Engine is being built from the ground up for the PS3.
Don't expect Square-Enix to port it anytime soon now that they have UE3 onboard.

Nintendo might get a new FF13 spin off, but none of the current FF13 will ever see the light of day on Wii.
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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2007, 06:35:09 PM »
Thanks for the rational thoughts Galford rather than the "spontaneous orgasm" trail of thought.

The Wii is much more likely to get a spinoff series than the FF(n+1) series itself.

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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2007, 06:37:52 PM »
Not to go advocating the devil or anything, but when was the last new media of FF13 shown? Was it recently?
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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2007, 06:40:27 PM »
I thought it was back at E3 '06.
They went on that whole "White Engine" spiel.

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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2007, 06:50:26 PM »
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Originally posted by: Galford
Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.  
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge graphics.  
The FF series has always been known for bleeding edge graphics for any platform period.
The Wii can't even handle first gen PS3 graphics let only FF13.

2.)The game is being built on the "White Engine".  The White Engine is being built from the ground up for the PS3.
Don't expect Square-Enix to port it anytime soon now that they have UE3 onboard.

Nintendo might get a new FF13 spin off, but none of the current FF13 will ever see the light of day on Wii.



UMMMM theres 3 games in the FFXIII series. . . . one is for a cell phone, we would not get a port of FFXIII but a spin off in the series . . .


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Not to go advocating the devil or anything, but when was the last new media of FF13 shown? Was it recently?




Famitsu scans, we now know that the summons are able to transform into vehicles eg shiva turns into a motorcycle. . .
The main character is named Lightning which is only a nickname. . .how appropriate from the man who created Cloud . . .
Then theres lots of pretty pictures from the rehashed trailer and some new shots . . .


I also reccomend any Kingdom Hearts fan to go watch the FFXIII Versus trailer as its being done by the Kingdom Hearts team down to the composer.  The trailer feels straight up Kingdom Hearts down to the last piano note.

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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2007, 06:52:57 PM »
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Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.  
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge FMVs.
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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2007, 06:57:36 PM »
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I thought it was back at E3 '06.
They went on that whole "White Engine" spiel.


And then they licensed the Unreal 3 Engine. Amirite?

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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2007, 07:27:04 PM »
 
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Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge graphics.
The FF series has always been known for bleeding edge graphics for any platform period.
The Wii can't even handle first gen PS3 graphics let only FF13.

1) That may be true, but that doesn't mean the Wii can't/won't get some form of FFXIII, made specifically for it. Square has stated that they plan for the Fabula Nova Crystallis games to span multiple platforms, and as Darkheart pointed out one of the games is for mobile phones. So, well, there goes that argument. The Wii may or may not get part of FFXIII, but if the Wii doesn't it won't be because it isn't powerful enough.

2) If Final Fantasy were only about bleeding edge graphics, they would have been on the Xbox last gen. No, Squeenix is about great visuals no matter what platform they're developing for, and that includes the Wii. A Wii Final Fantasy will just mean Square pushing the Wii to its graphical limit...even if that won't look as good as the PS3.


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2.)The game is being built on the "White Engine". The White Engine is being built from the ground up for the PS3.
Don't expect Square-Enix to port it anytime soon now that they have UE3 onboard.

Nintendo might get a new FF13 spin off, but none of the current FF13 will ever see the light of day on Wii.


Actually, the white engine started out for the PS2, it wasn't until the PS3 was unveiled and its specs released that Square upgraded it to PS3. Considering that, it wouldn't be entirely out of the question for a downgraded version of the White Engine to exist, or for Square to downgrade the Unreal 3 engine for use on the Wii.

Also, I think you're only thinking in terms of one of the Final Fantasy XIII games. There are known to be 6 thus far, and not all of them have been slated to use the White engine. In fact, only the first one is actually confirmed to be using the White Engine, and considering that one of the games is going to be on cell phones, and Squeenix just licensed an out-of-house engine, it isn't illogical to assume that not all of them will be using the white engine.  This makes an environment for developing a Final Fantasy game on the Wii very possible. It may not happen, sure, but to say it's out of the question is preposterous, considering what we know at this point.

Not only that, but there isn't going to be a "FFXIII" spin-off. Squeenix has said multiple times that each game in the Fabula Nova Crystallis series is going to be a stand-alone game in the same "universe". IF the Wii gets a game it most likely won't be a "spin-off", but it's own entry into the FFXIII universe.

Oh, and I think we're all forgetting that Square is definitely one of the most money-hungry game devs out there. They take their franchises wherever the money is (which is a major reason why DQIX is on the DS). The Wii is creaming both the 360 and PS3 in Japan, and it's leaving PS3 in the dust and closing in fast on the 360 everywhere else. Looking at those figures, and given Square's history and the fact that Nintendo would LOVE to have a main Final Fantasy on their console, I'd say it's VERY possible...


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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2007, 07:50:37 PM »
Well, I have to say that I agree with Pittboi 100%.

In fact, I would venture to say that if any developer is willing to reduce the polygons of most next-gen games, they'd be reproducible on the Wii easily.  Though sometimes, I suppose having too many enemies on screen at once could be a problem, I think that even fade-in effects would allow this to be possible.  That's a reason why I went with the Wii this generation: With the NES to SNES, there was increased functionality, noticeably sharped AI, and several other aspects in games were improved upon.  The next generation, with the PS and the N64, well, obviously these two systems added greatly to what could be done in gaming.  The generation after that, with the PS2, 360, and GC, well, to me, they allowed 3D gaming to look clean, and paved the start of online gaming, and that's about it.  Developers weren't truly limited by system power at this point, and they really didn't do everything they could with the hardware, despite what they may have claimed.  Worlds became huge, and games became too long for my case, in most situations.

Now, what does the new generation bring?  Sharper graphics, and that's about it if you don't include motion controls.  However, with this, there's more expensive games, more expensive TVs, and only minimal increase in difference.  Most developers don't need to waste their time too much on the superficial stuff.  If they can maintain a nice style, graphics, to me, mean nothing much, so long as the system can maintain this style.  At this point, I cannot imagine a style that cannot be conveyed with the power of the systems we have.  I would love for someone to prove me wrong, but I doubt it will happen.  That's just me, though.

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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2007, 07:59:18 PM »
It's nice to see FFXIII is throwing out all aspects of fantasy. There's always been too much fantasy in the series. Seriously. It's like all they ever used to be was fantasy! God, it's not like the word fantasy is in the title.

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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2007, 09:52:01 PM »
Let's hope this FFXIII spinoff thing pulls through. And the Kingdom hearts thing. And the Dragon Quest thing.

Oh, by the way, Dragon Quest Swords will be out in Japan this June. Think we'll get it by Fall in the U.S.? Sure, it's Dragon Quest, but it IS a SWORDS game, a waggle-slashing demo... sure it's got Akira Toriyama art... but it IS WAGGLE!!!! So don't expect stellar numbers out of it. I'm guessing 250k... tops in Japan. More like 150k.

But I'm hoping that the Wii gets a slew of other RPGs from the smaller developers who populated the PS2. That'd be awesome if we could get a mass migration of those guys onto the Wii... so far they seem to be clinging onto the PS2 for as long as they can.

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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2007, 03:41:09 AM »
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Let's hope this FFXIII spinoff thing pulls through. And the Kingdom hearts thing. And the Dragon Quest thing.

Oh, by the way, Dragon Quest Swords will be out in Japan this June. Think we'll get it by Fall in the U.S.? Sure, it's Dragon Quest, but it IS a SWORDS game, a waggle-slashing demo... sure it's got Akira Toriyama art... but it IS WAGGLE!!!! So don't expect stellar numbers out of it. I'm guessing 250k... tops in Japan. More like 150k.

But I'm hoping that the Wii gets a slew of other RPGs from the smaller developers who populated the PS2. That'd be awesome if we could get a mass migration of those guys onto the Wii... so far they seem to be clinging onto the PS2 for as long as they can.

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Ill take you on that bet sir,  I think the Dragon Quest name and the Wii's popularity will make at LEAST a million off of this game . . . Plus dont forget that it is still rumored that Swords might be bundled with Wiis for a slightly higher price in Japan . . .


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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2007, 06:01:36 AM »
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Let's hope this FFXIII spinoff thing pulls through. And the Kingdom hearts thing. And the Dragon Quest thing.

Oh, by the way, Dragon Quest Swords will be out in Japan this June. Think we'll get it by Fall in the U.S.? Sure, it's Dragon Quest, but it IS a SWORDS game, a waggle-slashing demo... sure it's got Akira Toriyama art... but it IS WAGGLE!!!! So don't expect stellar numbers out of it. I'm guessing 250k... tops in Japan. More like 150k.

But I'm hoping that the Wii gets a slew of other RPGs from the smaller developers who populated the PS2. That'd be awesome if we could get a mass migration of those guys onto the Wii... so far they seem to be clinging onto the PS2 for as long as they can.

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Ill take you on that bet sir,  I think the Dragon Quest name and the Wii's popularity will make at LEAST a million off of this game . . . Plus dont forget that it is still rumored that Swords might be bundled with Wiis for a slightly higher price in Japan . . .


Not to mention the original game in the Swords series was a set top TV game and from what I read it did really well.
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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2007, 11:56:07 AM »
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FFXII was the best RPG of last gen. There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.


Agreed. I hated the idea of them taking out random battles before the game was released, but after playing the game, random battles just seem...archaic. Contrary to what some people say *cough*pap*cough* I was surprised by just how much strategy was required in the battles. The game didn't play itself, I was constantly overriding commands and changing gambits to fit the situation. I would play that game all over again if it were on the Wii.

Also, I guess it could be GoNintendo getting excited...but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii got a piece of FFXIII, especially if the DS gets a game.


Anybody who thinks the game plays itself is a complete moron.  No matter how well the gambits are set up, they will never, EVER, cover every single possible situation.  Heck, even the best gambit set ups don't even cover 10% of the possible situations.

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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2007, 05:18:56 AM »
Well Pittboi, you can add one sure thing about your theory...FFXIII is NOT going to be a PS3 exclusive
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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2007, 05:48:23 AM »
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Well Pittboi, you can add one sure thing about your theory...FFXIII is NOT going to be a PS3 exclusive

Isnt this the exact some story in the original post minus the use of the picture? All that was added was the mentioning of Toriyama confirming it, but no actual quote or source.

Also some SE exec. came out and said that "If you are a SquareEnix/Nintendo fan, you should be sure to check out the Square Garden (event) this May." So expect the missing games that were in those bubbles to hopefully be filled in.  

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RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2007, 06:07:57 AM »
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Well Pittboi, you can add one sure thing about your theory...FFXIII is NOT going to be a PS3 exclusive

Isnt this the exact some story in the original post minus the use of the picture? All that was added was the mentioning of Toriyama confirming it, but no actual quote or source.

Also some SE exec. came out and said that "If you are a SquareEnix/Nintendo fan, you should be sure to check out the Square Garden (event) this May." So expect the missing games that were in those bubbles to hopefully be filled in.


Well, I admit I am confused as hell right now...

Square has already confirmed that the FFXIII project is going to be something like the Compilation of FFVII set, which spawns a lot of console releases, including cel phones.

However, this news story seems to be talking about the FIRST FFXIII game, ie the main game, the first FF game shown off for the PS3.

So this sort of makes the game exclusive, but at the same time, not exclusive...

Crap, I am confused.
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RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2007, 08:44:45 AM »
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