yes, im kinda on the opinion of stay away from online consoles, but then most games i like wouldn't really work online (baring pokemon, which if done right would fully change my opinon of online consoles

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pc's are quicker and easier to access online gameing with, and you would be hard put to not be able to find a clone of what ever game you wanted to play online on console, there are that many fps' around, all pretty much as good as each other
i do find it interesting that uncle ed says that xbawx live isnt really stable, given its bband only, ohwell not my problem i dont own an xbawx

also, its good to hear that nintendo dont want to charge to play the games, thats a load off my mind should they do decide to go online (naturally i would have a looky, see if my opionin changes) cause im going to start playing everquest, and well, i couldn't really afford alot of p2p games