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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Thanks a bunch.
You've basically shown us that you believe an EFFING INTERNET TRAILER particularly one that I didn't encode accurately reflects the quality of the final game, in-person, in-motion.
The newest trailer is pretty sh!tee. Poorly processed, and generally poorly encoded, which is pretty typical by turn-of-the-millenium standards.
Since you're that easy to fool, I can't find you credible, and not many others should either.
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On killer7, congrats on not ever finishing the game. You read the plot summary? Thanks, you just spit on all the "games are art" proponents (there's so many of those wackos around it's not funny anymore) by totally bypassing the visual storytelling and atmosphere of the stages and events.
I see quite a few people here looking forward to No More Heroes, and it's pretty likely they've all finished killer7. It's no wonder you don't "get it," and you probably shouldn't finish killer7 cuz (1) such a straighforward game (on on-rails shooter with some simple adventure puzzles mixed in) is too difficult for you, and (2) you're not going to get it.
You have trouble with analog aiming? Please say you never finished RE4 or Perfect Dark and admit you're just not as practiced and adjusted like the many gamers here. Both are FAR more difficult than killer7; not only do you have to aim and kill 100x more repetitive series of enemies than in killer7, you get to run too (with many more chances of getting yourself killed due to poor positioning and navigating).
Really, given a gaming period from 1998 to 2005, that's a LOT of time to practice analog aiming, from Ocarina of Time, all the way to killer7. It's practically a staple skill (but replaced thanks to Wii).
If you've scored the max # of points at the Gerudo horseback archery game in Ocarina of Time back in the day, raise your hand.
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Did I hurt the poor baby's feelings? What a smart ass. I personally don't like Perfect Dark (I have beaten the game) and never have been a fan of RE4, it is a good game but nothing amazing, though I feel it has more depth in its gameplay than Killer 7, whether it be the bosses or pacing. I'm not sure why you have to insult, perhaps it is to make you feel better? Perhaps you should also play some PC games, they put the aiming controls to shame in most console games. What I find most disgusting about yourself, is that you critisize me for looking at trailer that is supposed to REPRESENT the final product, and it did a poor job of it. Could it turn out fine in the end, yes. But still the gameplay looks shabby in the trailer (Clunky animations, poor framerate), and I doubt you have even played it, so you are just as credible as the rest all we have is what is being shown on trailer. Not sure how that makes me less credible, I'm seeing what you are seeing. You can read all you want about games but I've learned you can't go off what sounds great on paper (Fable anyone?).
In regards to aiming, I felt Killer 7s aiming was hurt more by the scanning than anything, which seemed there to make things harder than they should of. Was the game really that hard? Ehhe, not really but I just didn't feel the need to trudge through it, heck I have talked to people who enjoy the game but say it is a "pain" to get through, just that the style and story makes up for it. In fact the only arguments I see about Killer 7 is the style and story, the rest of the game seems glossed over, almost like solid design, puzzles, exploration, variety, etc take a back seat to the unique visual style (well partially unique, because cell shading was used previously). The game felt low budget, and that is never a good sign, and I got the distinct impression that the on-rail design choice was to help mask it.
As far as I can see if you aren't thrilled with the game you are not respected at all, in fact if you have anything negative to say "No More Heroes" even after a poor trailer, that your opinion does not matter even though NO ONE HERE has freaken played the game. All we have to go off is trailers and what is written down via the tidbits of information on the net. Sounds like pure fanboism to me, or IMO an elitist mentality.
"Hey look at me I like this oh so hardcore game Killer 7, if you don't like it, you suck or can't understand it"-----------Face it many people don't like Killer7 for legitimate reasons, as some may not like Zelda: TP for legitimate reasons (though those are in the minority). It has nothing to do with their gaming skills, but design choices that are not everyones cup of tea. You want to know something else? I was probably one of the first to buy Killer 7 because I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO IT even after the reviews, and bought it for full purchase price a week after it came out for GC.
So I'd say my opinion should count for something, I gave the game a chance long before it hit "Hardcore" status for the elites to look down on everyone else who may not like its design or gameplay choices. So back off Pro, your condescending remarks are pathetic and childish. I wanted to know what exactly you guys seem so hyped about No More Heroes and choose to look over some poor programming in the trailer, there wasn't a single comment I could find regarding that, and I would think it would worry some. Studios are not perfect, especially smaller ones, and it is perfectly legitimate to remain a skeptic when the main source of gameplay footage isn't impressive from a technical standpoint. Not to mention Grasshopper hasn't had an experience or quality filled lineup of games.