Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Chozo Ghost]

I know it has more than the GC, but the GC had far from enough either so saying the Wii has more isn't necessarily saying much. The problem is the 3rd party support is hardly there at all, and Nintendo should have known this and doubled or even tripled their own 1st and 2nd party efforts in order to fill the void. They have all this money now so buying or creating new studios to get more games pumped out is something they should have done a couple years ago, but they didn't.

Unfortunately, now its catching up with them. The Wii is losing steam while at the same time the PS3 is gaining it. It never should have gotten to this point, because Nintendo should have been doing everything they could to increase the Wii's library so that it could have as many titles on the chart as the competition. Their mistake was they counted on 3rd parties to do that for them, and now they're paying the price because 3rd parties never backed the Wii even though it was so popular for so long. Now the popularity is fading and what is left for the Wii now? I see tons of titles coming to 360/PS3 but not to the Wii. This shouldn't have been allowed to happen.

[Caterkiller]

I know it has more than the GC, but the GC had far from enough either so saying the Wii has more isn't necessarily saying much. The problem is the 3rd party support is hardly there at all, and Nintendo should have known this and doubled or even tripled their own 1st and 2nd party efforts in order to fill the void. They have all this money now so buying or creating new studios to get more games pumped out is something they should have done a couple years ago, but they didn't.

Nintendo takes it's time on it's games, it's been like that forever and its up to other companies to fill the void. It's not like at any given moment a company just has nothing to do. No doubt they work like animals, and when that project is done they work some more.  Having more 1st and 2nd party games is obviously a great solution, but really it can't always be the best solution. If we got 1.5 times more the 1st and 2nd party games chances are there would be dips in quality.

Nintendo's latest half-year earnings show a net loss of $25m; the first loss in ovrer seven years...

Nintendo's earnings for the six months leading up to September showed a net loss of just over 2 billion yen ($25 million). Sales fell by over 33 percent to 363.2 billion yen. In the same period a year ago, the company enjoyed a net profit of almost 70 billion yen. However, Nintendo still forecasts a full-year net profit of 90 billion yen.

The slump is attributed to a number of factors, including an unusually strong yen - up to a fifteen year high against the dollar - and waning sales of the Wii and DS consoles, most likely due to a relative lack of system-selling software.

The company's yearly earnings will also no doubt be affected by the delayed release of the 3DS, now set to miss the holiday period across the world.

http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=14423

[SalesBot]

Nintendo Q2 Results (July - Sept 2010)

- Nintendo announced its financial results for its second fiscal quarter ended September 30,2010

- Nintendo posted operating income of ¥54,232 million;the company reported a net loss of ¥2,011 million (Six Months Ended September)

- Net income fell to 23.2 billion yen ($285 million) in the three months ended in September;Operating profit fell 52 percent to 30.9 billion yen in the quarter

- For the current fiscal year ending March 31, 2011, Nintendo expects to sell 17.5 million Wiis and 23.5 million handhelds


NDS Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

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Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2004/05         -        -      2.84     2.42      5.26     5.26

FY 2005/06       1.29     2.19     5.69     2.29      11.46    16.72

FY 2006/07       4.54     5.55     8.79     4.67      23.55    40.27

FY 2007/08       7.00     6.37     11.14    5.81      30.32    70.59   

FY 2008/09       6.96     6.78     11.89    5.56      31.19    101.78

FY 2009/10       5.97     5.73     11.65    3.76      27.11    128.89

FY 2010/11       3.15     3.54       -        -       6.69     135.58NDS Worldwide Software Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

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Software Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2004/05         -        -      5.01     5.48      10.49    10.49

FY 2005/06       5.33     7.98     22.59    14.05     49.95    60.44

FY 2006/07       18.35    24.79    50.65    29.75     123.54   183.98

FY 2007/08       34.26    41.23    71.39    38.75     185.63   369.61   

FY 2008/09       36.58    48.43    78.77    33.53     197.31   566.92

FY 2009/10       29.09    42.06    50.22    30.22     151.59   718.5

FY 2010/11       22.42    32.42      -       -        54.84    773.34Wii Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

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Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07        -        -       3.08     2.76      5.84     5.84

FY 2007/08       3.43     3.9      6.98     4.31      18.62    24.46   

FY 2008/09       5.17     4.92     10.42    5.43      25.94    50.4

FY 2009/10       2.23     3.53     11.29    3.48      20.53    70.93

FY 2010/11       3.04     1.93      -        -        4.97     75.90Wii Worldwide Software Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

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Software Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY        LTD

FY 2006/07        -        -       16.37    12.46     28.83     28.83

FY 2007/08       15.98    21.0     47.38    35.25     119.61    148.44 

FY 2008/09       40.4     41.0     82.39    40.79     204.58    353.02

FY 2009/10       31.07    45.14    80.43    35.17     191.81    544.83

FY 2010/11       28.17    37.04      -        -       65.21     610.04
Nintendo Q1 FY 2010/11
Nintendo Q2 FY 2010/11
Bloomberg

[alegoicoe]

good, its time for the 3ds and wii2 to step in.

[Chozo Ghost]

I'm shocked that Nintendo is losing money. This doesn't make much sense at all, and I can't explain it... so I don't know what to say. The only thing I can think of is that when they cut the price of the Wii from $249 to $199 that might have brought to the point where they were suffering a loss with each unit sold, but I don't know if that's true or not.

[alegoicoe]

i dont think they are loosing money, they are just not making as they were a year or two years ago.

[Mop it up]

The only thing I can think of is that when they cut the price of the Wii from $249 to $199 that might have brought to the point where they were suffering a loss with each unit sold, but I don't know if that's true or not.

It isn't true, the Wii has a really high mark-up so Nintendo makes a lot of profit on it. This is just one example of why Nintendo can't go around buying up game companies, they need to be prepared for possible losses.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I'm pretty sure at one point Nitnendo was making close to if not more than $100 per Wii sold at $249.99
I'm sure they are still making close to those margins($60-$80) at $199.99 now too.

What Nintendo doesn't seem to get though is that they could probably boost hardware sales again if they just allowed you to transfer your Wii account to a new Wii and started offering Wii's with much bigger internal storage. 4GB internal flash would cost them a few dollars at most per unit. I'm sure plenty of you could justify selling your old Wii off to buy a new one if these changes were made.

[KDR_11k]

Super Mario Collection sold more than Kirby Epic Yarn and Metroid Other M combined. I hope Nintendo doesn't get the wrong impression from this...

It already got the impression from the sales of the NSMB games. That's why SMC even exists. It doesn't matter how bored Miyamoto is with 2D Mario, it's still more popular.

[Chozo Ghost]

The only thing I can think of is that when they cut the price of the Wii from $249 to $199 that might have brought to the point where they were suffering a loss with each unit sold, but I don't know if that's true or not.

It isn't true, the Wii has a really high mark-up so Nintendo makes a lot of profit on it. This is just one example of why Nintendo can't go around buying up game companies, they need to be prepared for possible losses.

Alright, but what is the reason why they're losing money? They are the market leader and have tons of multi-million sellers on both the handheld and console markets, so how can they be losing money? The GC was profitable in all except one quarter, and the GC had no where near the popularity of the Wii, so how could it have been profitable but Nintendo is losing money in this quarter? It doesn't make sense. They're not selling their systems at a loss, and the games are selling well.... so what gives?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Alright, but what is the reason why they're losing money? They are the market leader and have tons of multi-million sellers on both the handheld and console markets, so how can they be losing money? The GC was profitable in all except one quarter, and the GC had no where near the popularity of the Wii, so how could it have been profitable but Nintendo is losing money in this quarter? It doesn't make sense. They're not selling their systems at a loss, and the games are selling well.... so what gives?

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=32670.msg641000#msg641000

[SalesBot]

Chart Track - Week 41, 2010

UK: Week 42, 2010 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (__) 360 Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
02 (__) NDS Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)
03 (04) WII Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
04 (01) 360 Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
05 (__) PS3 Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
06 (02) PS3 Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
07 (03) 360 Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
08 (05) PS3 Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
09 (06) WII Wii Party (Nintendo)
10 (16) WII Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
11 (__) PC Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
12 (08) 360 Halo: Reach (Microsoft)
13 (07) PS3 Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
14 (09) 360 Dead Rising 2 (Capcom)
15 (10) PS3 F1 2010 (Codemasters)
16 (12) 360 F1 2010 (Codemasters)
17 (15) WII Just Dance (Ubisoft)
18 (25) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
19 (31) WII Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
20 (__) 360 Vanquish (Sega)
21 (14) PS3 Dead Rising 2 (Capcom)
22 (13) 360 Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
23 (__) PS3 Vanquish (Sega)
24 (19) 360 Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
25 (__) WII Super Smash Bros: Brawl (Nintendo)
26 (__) 360 Forza Motorsport 3 (Microsoft)
27 (30) WII New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
28 (18) PS3 Sports Champions (Sony Computer Ent.)
29 (23) WII Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
30 (29) WII Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
31 (33) NDS Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
32 (26) PSP Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
33 (34) NDS Art Academy (Nintendo)
34 (36) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
35 (11) PC Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
36 (__) 360 Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
37 (28) WII Dance On Broadway (Ubisoft)
38 (35) 360 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
39 (32) NDS Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
40 (__) PS3 Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)

Ireland: Week 42, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)
01 (__) Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
02 (01) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
03 (02) Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
04 (__) Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)
05 (__) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
06 (03) Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
07 (09) Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
08 (14) Super Smash Bros: Brawl (Nintendo)
09 (06) Wii Party (Nintendo)
10 (__) Vanquish (Sega)
11 (04) Halo: Reach (Microsoft)
12 (07) Dead Rising 2 (Capcom)
13 (05) F1 2010 (Codemasters)
14 (08) Castlevania: Lords Of Shadow (Konami)
15 (11) Just Cause 2 (Square Enix Europe)
16 (13) Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
17 (19) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
18 (__) Aliens Vs Predator (Sega)
19 (__) Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
20 (__) Ea Sports Mma (Electronic Arts)

Denmark: Week 42, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)
01 (01) Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
03 (__) Fallout: New Vegas (Namco Bandai Partners)
04 (03) Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
05 (04) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
06 (07) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
07 (06) Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
08 (17) The Sims 3: Fast Lane Stuff (Electronic Arts)
09 (05) Civilization V (Nordic Game Supply)
10 (09) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
11 (16) Halo: Reach (Microsoft)
12 (__) Wii Party (Nintendo)
13 (__) Counter-strike: Source (Electronic Arts)
14 (10) Mafia Ii (Nordic Game Supply)
15 (__) The Sims 3: Ambitions (Electronic Arts)
16 (13) Starcraft Ii: Wings Of Liberty (Activision Blizzard)
17 (__) Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Warner Bros. Interactive)
18 (__) The Sims 3: Design & High-tech Stuff (Electronic Arts)
19 (__) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Nordic Game Supply)
20 (14) Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts)

Netherlands: Week 42, 2010
01 (02) [PS3] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
03 (05) [360] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts)
04 (06) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
05 (07) [PC] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts)
06 (04) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
07 (03) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
08 (08) [PS2] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
09 (__) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
10 (09) [360] Halo: Reach (Microsoft)

France: week 41, 2010
01 (__) [PS3] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts)
02 (__) [PS3] Naruto Shippuden : Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (Namco Bandai)
03 (05) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
04 (01) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
05 (__) [PS3] Medal of Honor : Tier 1 Edition (Electronic Arts)

Italy: Week 41, 2010
01 (01) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
02 (07) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
03 (02) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
04 (__) [PS3] Medal of Honor - Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
05 (03) [PS2] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
06 (04) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
07 (__) [PS3] Naruto Shippuden : Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (Namco Bandai)
08 (__) [360] Medal of Honor - Limited Edition (Electronic Arts)
09 (05) [360] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
10 (__) [PS3] Medal of Honor Tier 1 (Electronic Arts)

Finland: Week 41 + 42, 2010
01 (__) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
02 (__) Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda)
03 (02) NHL 11 (Electronic Arts)
04 (03) SingStar SuomiHitit (Sony)
05 (01) FIFA 11 (Electronic Arts)
06 (04) WRC FIA World Rally Championship (Black Bean)
07 (10) Battlefield Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts)
08 (05) Civilization V (Take 2)
09 (07) NHL Slapshot (Electronic Arts)
10 (08) Sports Champions (Sony)

Germany: Week 42, 2010
01 (__) [NDS] Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)
02 (03) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
03 (01) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Nintendo)
04 (__) [PS3] Fallout New Vegas (Namco Bandai Partners)
05 (05) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
06 (06) [PS2] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
07 (04) [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (Namco Bandai)
08 (02) [PS3] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts)
09 (__) [360] Fallout New Vegas (Namco Bandai Partners)
10 (__) [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)

[SalesBot]

Top 20 for 2010:

US:


Germany:


France:


Spain:


UK:


Japan:

1 Pokemon Black
2 Pokemon White
3 New Super Mario Bros. Wii
4 Dragon Quest VI
5 Dragon Quest Monster Joker 2
6 Wii Party
7 Tomodachi Collection
8 Super Mario Galaxy 2
9 MGS Peace Walker
10 WiiFit +
11 Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep
12 God Eater
13 Ryu Ga Gotoku 4
14 Hokuto Musou
15 Pokemon Ranger: Sky Boogaloo
16 Monster Hunter side game
17 Inazuma Elven 3
18 Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G the best
19 Mario Kart Wii
20 WiiSports Resorts

EUR Hardware:


Top 20 in US this gen:





more info and pics in English: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/101029/index.html

[alegoicoe]

The only thing I can think of is that when they cut the price of the Wii from $249 to $199 that might have brought to the point where they were suffering a loss with each unit sold, but I don't know if that's true or not.

It isn't true, the Wii has a really high mark-up so Nintendo makes a lot of profit on it. This is just one example of why Nintendo can't go around buying up game companies, they need to be prepared for possible losses.

you nailed it, they have learned a lot from the n64 and gamecube slumps.

[alegoicoe]

The only thing I can think of is that when they cut the price of the Wii from $249 to $199 that might have brought to the point where they were suffering a loss with each unit sold, but I don't know if that's true or not.

It isn't true, the Wii has a really high mark-up so Nintendo makes a lot of profit on it. This is just one example of why Nintendo can't go around buying up game companies, they need to be prepared for possible losses.

[alegoicoe]

you nailed it, they have learned a lot from the n64 and gamecube slumps.

[BlackNMild2k1]

^WTF happened there? spasm out on your keyboard?

[alegoicoe]

sorry guys, i dont know what happen with my web browser, i use chrome, i have never had a problem with it.

[Shaymin]

Chart Track - Week 41, 2010

UK: Week 42, 2010 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (__) 360 Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
02 (__) NDS Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)

I am cry.

[KDR_11k]

Whoa, Rabbids Go Home (Lapins Crètins: La Grosse Aventure) managed to chart at 15 in the YTD sales for France.

[Stratos]

Where is that list?

[Shaymin]

Post 6637.

[Peachylala]

Whoa, Rabbids Go Home (Lapins Crètins: La Grosse Aventure) managed to chart at 15 in the YTD sales for France.

Considering the developer is French...

[SalesBot]

Sony Q2 Results (July - Sept. 2010)

- Sony Corporation  announced its consolidated results for the second quarter of the fiscal year ending March 31,2011 (July 1,2010 to September 30,2010)

- Sony Corporation posted operating income of $827 million;the company reported net income of $375 million

- For the current fiscal year ending March 31, 2011, Sony expects to sell 15 million PS3s, 8 million PSPs and 6 million PS2s

PSP Worldwide Unit Sales/Production Shipments (Unit:Million)

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Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07        1.4      2.0      4.7      1.5      9.6      9.6

FY 2007/08        2.1      2.5      5.7      3.5      13.8     23.4

FY 2008/09        3.7      3.2      5.1      2.1      14.1     37.5

FY 2009/10        1.3      3.0      4.2      1.4      9.9      47.4

FY 2010/11        1.2      1.5       -        -       2.7      50.1

March 31,2006  Cumulative  Production Shipments of Hardware    17.03

LTD Hardware Unit Sales + Cumulative  Production Shipments     67.13



Software Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07        9.2      13.2     21.2     11.1     54.7     54.7

FY 2007/08        9.8      12.6     18.3     14.8     55.5     110.2

FY 2008/09        11.8     11.8     15.5     11.2     50.3     160.5

FY 2009/10        8.3      13.0     15.0     8.1      44.4     204.9

FY 2010/11        9.2      11.0     -       -         20.2     225.1

March 31,2006  Cumulative  Production Shipments of Software    47.3

LTD Software Unit Sales + Cumulative  Production Shipments     272.4

PS2 Worldwide Unit Sales/Production Shipments (Unit:Million)

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Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07        2.3      3.4      6.7      2.4      14.8     14.8

FY 2007/08        2.7      3.2      5.4      2.4      13.7     28.5

FY 2008/09        1.5      2.5      2.5      1.4      7.9      36.4

FY 2009/10        1.6      1.9      2.1      1.7      7.3      43.7

FY 2010/11        1.6      1.5       -        -       3.1      46.8

March 31,2006  Cumulative  Production Shipments of Hardware    103.69

LTD Hardware Unit Sales + Cumulative  Production Shipments     150.49



Software Sales    Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07        32.7     47.2     78.6     35.0     193.5    193.5

FY 2007/08        31.1     38.0     60.9     24.0     154.0    347.5

FY 2008/09        19.3     23.2     29.7     11.3     83.5     431.0

FY 2009/10        8.5      11.4     11.2     4.6      35.7     466.7

FY 2010/11        3.4      5.6      -        -        9.0      475.7

March 31,2006  Cumulative  Production Shipments of Software    1047.0

LTD Software Unit Sales + Cumulative  Production Shipments     1522.7PS3 Worldwide Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

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Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07         -        -       1.7      1.8      3.5      3.5

FY 2007/08        0.7      1.3      4.9      2.2      9.1      12.6

FY 2008/09        1.6      2.4      4.5      1.6      10.1     22.7

FY 2009/10        1.1      3.2      6.5      2.2      13.0     35.7

FY 2010/11        2.4      3.5       -        -       5.9      41.6


Software Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07         -        -       5.2      8.1      13.3     13.3

FY 2007/08        4.7      10.4     26.0     16.8     57.9     71.2

FY 2008/09        22.8     21.2     40.8     18.9     103.7    174.9

FY 2009/10        14.8     23.9     47.6     29.3     115.6    290.5

FY 2010/11        24.8     35.3       -        -      60.1     350.6 Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

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Sony's Fiscal Year 2010/11

Hardware         Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr    Sony FY       

PS3               2.4      3.5       -        -       5.9     

Wii               3.04     1.93       -       -       4.97     

360               1.5      2.8       -        -       4.3     

PS2               1.6      1.5       -        -       3.1


Year 2010

Hardware         Ja-Mr    Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc     2010       

Wii               3.48     3.04     1.93      -       8.45     

PS3               2.2      2.4      3.5       -       8.1     

360               1.5      1.5      2.8       -       5.8     

PS2               1.7      1.6      1.5       -       4.8
Sony Q2

Sony Q2 (PDF)

[Chozo Ghost]

As if Nintendo losing money wasn't bad enough news, now Sony is making a profit? What is this, Bizarro world?