Topic: Halo 3 wants to rape you.

[TrueNerd]

Good GOD.

$59.99 = Halo 3 Bare Bones edition
$69.99 = Halo 3 Collector's edition
$99.99 = Halo 3 Rape Time edition

If consumers allow publishers to set the precedent that $100 games are perfectly acceptable, my hobby of playing video games is over. I am personally vowing on this day to convince everyone considering buying that to do otherwise. This will not stand.

I suppose part of this is that I am a mild Halo admirer and therefore don't see the appeal of the Legendary Edition. I have to ask, "Would I spend that much on a Twilight Princess Hylian Hero edition, complete with mini Master Sword, making of featurettes, etc?" The answer is still NO.

$100 for a game is not acceptable, no matter what extras are being offered. So do your part. Friends don't let friends buy Halo 3 Legendary edition.

[vudu]

This stuff cracks me up.  You can find a picture of the Legendary Edition in the fifth scan on this page.  It looks like it would just take up a bunch of space that coule otherwise be used for something worthwhile.

While I love special edition DVDS (to rent, not to buy) I've never been interested in a special edition video game; I'm not quite sure why that is.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
Good GOD.

$59.99 = Halo 3 Bare Bones edition
$69.99 = Halo 3 Collector's edition
$99.99 = Halo 3 Rape Time edition

If consumers allow publishers to set the precedent that $100 games are perfectly acceptable, my hobby of playing video games is over. I am personally vowing on this day to convince everyone considering buying that to do otherwise. This will not stand.

I suppose part of this is that I am a mild Halo admirer and therefore don't see the appeal of the Legendary Edition. I have to ask, "Would I spend that much on a Twilight Princess Hylian Hero edition, complete with mini Master Sword, making of featurettes, etc?" The answer is still NO.

$100 for a game is not acceptable, no matter what extras are being offered. So do your part. Friends don't let friends buy Halo 3 Legendary edition.

I would buy that TP Hylian Hero edition! Sounds great, I hope Nintendo does it .

[TrueNerd]

I just noticed that it actually doesn't say in that article that the Legendary Edition costs $100, but if go to GI's front page, the tagline for the Halo 3 article says, "See why you'll soon be dropping $100 on Halo 3." So I suppose that price could be wrong, but considering that the collectors edition costs $70 and this offers more then that, it probably is rather likely.  

[Nick DiMola]

Well I just found another reason to hate Halo, thanks TrueNerd!

[Ian Sane]

"If consumers allow publishers to set the precedent that $100 games are perfectly acceptable, my hobby of playing video games is over."

Then your hobby is over.  Never underestimate the power of mass stupidity.  I never buy a special edition DVD for something I already have.  But others do and because of that I have to research upcoming double-dips anytime I buy a DVD.  People are going to buy this and because you have a brain you'll get screwed.  I know.  It sucks.

[capamerica]

I personally love these kind of Special Editions. I don't mind paying a extra $10-20 for a special version of a Game. With DVDs I Only buy Special Editions I don't bother with the cheap standard versions.

Now I don't buy every special edition that comes out, only ones for things I like. That being said I will most likely not buy the "Legendary Edition" but I will most likely buy the Collector's edition just like I did for Halo2.

I don't see what the big deal with it is for you TrueNerd, It's not like its the only version of Halo3 coming out, you can still buy the standard version no one is forcing you to buy the Legendary Edition or Collector's edition. These are for the Halo fans. I have a friend who will most likely be buying the Legendary Edition and I don't see a problem with that, he's a big Halo fan.

If Nintendo released the Twilight Princess Hylian Hero edition, I would have just rushed down to my local GameStop and pre-ordered it.

There are people out there that like this kind of stuff and just because you don't doesn't mean your any better then them.

[wandering]

The game is looking gorgeous. Too bad those environments will be wasted on such a bland game.

What were we talking about? Prices? Yeah, they do seem pretty high.

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"If consumers allow publishers to set the precedent that $100 games are perfectly acceptable, my hobby of playing video games is over."

Then your hobby is over.  Never underestimate the power of mass stupidity.  I never buy a special edition DVD for something I already have.  But others do and because of that I have to research upcoming double-dips anytime I buy a DVD.  People are going to buy this and because you have a brain you'll get screwed.  I know.  It sucks.

Don't confuse special editions with double dips. A special edition can come out a couple years after the original edition and offer more features, a better transfer, collectibles, etc. And perhaps to those people, buying the single disc so they can watch the movie in the meantime is worthwhile. What is frustrating is when it happens over a short period of time, i.e. less than a year.

[MaryJane]

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
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I suppose part of this is that I am a mild Halo admirer and therefore don't see the appeal of the Legendary Edition. I have to ask, "Would I spend that much on a Twilight Princess Hylian Hero edition, complete with mini Master Sword, making of featurettes, etc?" The answer is still NO.

$100 for a game is not acceptable, no matter what extras are being offered. So do your part. Friends don't let friends buy Halo 3 Legendary edition.

I would pay $100 for a collectors edition of Zelda with a Mini Master Sword, that was at least a foot in length.

It's called collectors or legendary, or hyrulian, for a reason it caters to a certain group of people. Those who pay for things for the sole purpose of collecting them, dude with the hot Samus pic, is just like me, I buy special edition dvd's all the time. I bought the X-3 collectors edition with the 92 page comic book, that I still haven't read, but you know what? The case is really cool. So I bought.

Stupidity of the masses? Perhaps, but it's something I like so I buy it = The American Dream

(I still think $600 for a console is too much money, for any console, but that's because it doesn't function by itself, you have to buy things to make it work.)

[couchmonkey]

They're still offering a normal version so it's not really a problem.  When they force you to buy the Legendary one, then  there's a problem.

I'd consider the "Collector's edition" if it was Zelda.  Not the super-fancy one though, I need money for electricity and stuff.

[Ian Sane]

"Don't confuse special editions with double dips. A special edition can come out a couple years after the original edition and offer more features, a better transfer, collectibles, etc. And perhaps to those people, buying the single disc so they can watch the movie in the meantime is worthwhile. What is frustrating is when it happens over a short period of time, i.e. less than a year."

You're right.  It's not the same thing.  That wasn't a good analogy.

Still it is an example of consumer stupidity allowing companies to develop bad habits.

[Smoke39]

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Originally posted by: vudu
While I love special edition DVDS (to rent, not to buy) I've never been interested in a special edition video game; I'm not quite sure why that is.

They usually don't come with anything very interesting.  I mean, dev commentary's kinda interesting, but not something I'd pay money for.  Figurines don't interest me at all.  Art books can be kinda interesting, but I mean most of that stuff is manifested in the game itself.

I'm interest in game content.  That's why I made sure I got a preorder for WW; I wanted to see Master Quest.

[stevey]

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"Would I spend that much on a Twilight Princess Hylian Hero edition, complete with mini Master Sword, making of featurettes, etc?" The answer is OMFG YES!

hell I spend $600 on a killer edition if It came with a full size real master sword, drool......

[Kairon]

I'd buy a Collector's or Special Edition if they got me closer to the experience.

For example, the bonus features on Hayao Miyazaki's Spirited Away? I'd pay extra for those.

I can see paying 10 extra dollars for the behind-the-scenes bonuses for Halo 3, but the other two discs are absolute trash: all the cut scenes on one convenient dvd? extra fan stuff on another DVD that originated on the internet and that I can easily youtube? Uh.... no.

Give me 1 hour long features with your composer, your concept artists, your producers, give me a walkthrough of the entire process of the game's creation from concept to end and I will pay extra for it... up to $20 extra.

Throw in Miyamoto and the sky's the limit.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Shecky]

Ironically, Nintendo could probably do the same thing with the Wii and GCN versions of TP and I'd buy it even if it didn't have extras.  Heck that's my plan right now (buy both versions), so I'm already slated to kill $100 on TP.

[capamerica]

A good example of double dipping in the DVD market is the crap we've been put though with the damn Lord of the Rings DVDs. How many times have they re-re-released them?
I still haven't purchased any of them. I'm holding out for the day they release a box set where all 3 movies are edited to make one long 12 hour movie.

Another would be X-Men, where you had the Standard version and the Special Edition then a year later X-Men 1.5 with new features and then after the release of X2 another version that is bundled with X2 in a collectors edition box set.

[WuTangTurtle]

u know why can't they just stick to the really good kind of things like what Konami is doing with Castlevania Portrait of Ruin, u get a artbook a music cd, and ds stylus and case for free when u pre-order the game.

[Ceric]

I get a special $100 dollar Zelda if It came with:  OoT, Majora Mask(Never Played this one), Making of Documentary, Zelda Mii outfits, 1 Nunchuku Painted up with the shields markings, 1 Wiimote Done up like the sword hilt, and the game itself.  A console skin be nice as well.

I just don't like the logical conclusion on these things.  Actually holding out on game content to put into the special edition.

[Athrun Zala]

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Originally posted by: capamerica
A good example of double dipping in the DVD market is the crap we've been put though with the damn Lord of the Rings DVDs. How many times have they re-re-released them?
I still haven't purchased any of them. I'm holding out for the day they release a box set where all 3 movies are edited to make one long 12 hour movie.

two times....Theatrical Cut and Extended Edition (the later are excellent, and does show what the extras in any DVD should be like...), so it's not that bad, especially considering that the EE are superior in every way (unless you hate LOTR or Jackson's interpretation...)

maybe is there another release I haven't heard about?

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
maybe is there another release I haven't heard about?

Just a few...

[TrueNerd]

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Originally posted by: capamerica

I don't see what the big deal with it is for you TrueNerd, It's not like its the only version of Halo3 coming out, you can still buy the standard version no one is forcing you to buy the Legendary Edition or Collector's edition. These are for the Halo fans. I have a friend who will most likely be buying the Legendary Edition and I don't see a problem with that, he's a big Halo fan.

If Nintendo released the Twilight Princess Hylian Hero edition, I would have just rushed down to my local GameStop and pre-ordered it.

There are people out there that like this kind of stuff and just because you don't doesn't mean your any better then them.

This is not a matter of arrogance regarding this specific example. I'm sorry if it came off like that. What I am upset about is that game prices for Sony and Microsoft have just gone up $10 and just about every game also has a "special" edition for an additional $10. On top of that, companies like EA are nickling and diming gamers for downloadable content that they used to include in their games for free, and don't even get me started on the sh*t Sony is pulling with Gran Turismo. The cost to play video games has gone up a lot in the last year, and will continue to do so.

Also, this is the exact same thing Microsoft did with Halo 2. Halo 2 was one of the first games to have a special edition for $10 more and when they sold a f*ckton of those, they said, "Hey! We can charge these suckers $60 for all games!" And that's exactly what they did. If the Legendary Edition is a wild success, who's to say that $100 games aren't the norm in five years? An extreme possiblity, I know, but it sets a precedent that consumers will do this. I do not want that precedent set, and I would think most people would agree on that one.

If Nintendo really did release an uber edition of Twilight Princess, yeah, you bet I would want it. However, I would do my best to fight that urge knowing that if I and a whole lot of other people bought it, I would likely be paying more for Twilight Princess 2, and that is why this upsets me.  

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
If Nintendo really did release an uber edition of Twilight Princess, yeah, you bet I would want it. However, I would do my best to fight that urge knowing that if I and a whole lot of other people bought it, I would likely be paying more for Twilight Princess 2, and that is why this upsets me.

... you know you would lose though ...

But I'm not too worried. Higher prices for the X360 and PS3 means the Wii has the software price high ground!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Blue Plant]

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd

If the Legendary Edition is a wild success, who's to say that $100 games aren't the norm in five years? An extreme possiblity, I know, but it sets a precedent that consumers will do this. I do not want that precedent set, and I would think most people would agree on that one.

Absolutely agree.  It's fine and well that these games be offered with special bonuses and materials (much to the Earthbound mega box of doom), but please keep that stuff as a pre-order bonus or a free pack-in with the first (and second) shipment of games.

[Athrun Zala]

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Originally posted by: Arbok

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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
maybe is there another release I haven't heard about?

Just a few...

TC+EE? interesting.....seems completely worthless though.....

in any case, I missed those and the boxed sets.... so there are 3 versions of the DVDs.... (unfair ofr the fans, as they probably will buy every version....)