Author Topic: GCN Zelda not going to be sold at retail in the United States ? (Read 17621 times)

airraid · « **on:** October 19, 2006, 08:31:29 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124817

EB Games and GameStop no longer taking pre-orders on Gamecube Zelda Twilight Princess ??

that much is true because I called not one, but two local GameStops, both confirmed they're no longer taking pre-orders.

now the question shifts to..... is Nintendo going to supply a limited number of Gamecube versions to retail, or is it being pulled from retail altogother ??

in Japan it's retail only. wonder it Nintendo will do the same here. I hope not, I already have my copy half paid for at GS. they said it wouldn't be a problem because they would just give me my money back, but still, it would be incredibly irritating if i can't just pick it up from my closest GS, I WANT to have to order it online. but I will if I have to.

yeah yeah I know some of you guys will say "Gamecube is dead"
"Gamecube version canceled" . blah blah.

but for those of you that care and are getting the GCN version, what are your thoughts on this and what are your plans?

btw, call your GameStop (and EBs) and ask to verify this. if at first they haven't heard, ask them to check their company email.

also call Nintendo of America 1-800 255-3700 and ask what the heck is going on. flood their lines and demand a real, non-scripted answer.

Ceric · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2006, 08:47:05 AM »

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Originally posted by: airraid
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124817

EB Games and GameStop no longer taking pre-orders on Gamecube Zelda Twilight Princess ??

that much is true because I called not one, but two local GameStops, both confirmed they're no longer taking pre-orders.

now the question shifts to..... is Nintendo going to supply a limited number of Gamecube versions to retail, or is it being pulled from retail altogother ??

in Japan it's online only. wonder it Nintendo will do the same here. I hope not, I already have my copy half paid for at GS. they said it wouldn't be a problem because they would just give me my money back, but still, it would be incredibly irritating if i can't just pick it up from my closest GS, I don't WANT to have to order it online. but I will if I have to.

yeah yeah I know some of you guys will say "Gamecube is dead"
"Gamecube version canceled" . blah blah.

but for those of you that care and are getting the GCN version, what are your thoughts on this and what are your plans?

btw, call your GameStop (and EBs) and ask to verify this. if at first they haven't heard, ask them to check their company email.

also call Nintendo of America 1-800 255-3700 and ask what the heck is going on. flood their lines and demand a real, non-scripted answer.

Personally I think with how long the Pre-Orders have been going on and the like that the Gamestop Empire should get games from Nintendo at the very least for the people who pre-order it even if NOA makes it Online only. I really doubt they are though.

Pale · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2006, 11:13:29 AM »

In my opinion, this would be a good business decision for Nintendo. Hell, cancelling the game all together would be a good business decision for Nintendo.

Kairon · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2006, 11:21:25 AM »

Uh oh, time to check with my ancient pre-order...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Renny · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2006, 11:22:46 AM »

A good business decision if they want my boot up their asses. Anyone who remembers that the GameCube version still exists by December 11th should get it free.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2006, 11:46:49 AM »

If Nintendo cancels the Cube version I will order the Japanese one and use a translation guide. I'm not going to let them force me into buying a version of the game I want nothing to do with. I'm hoping that after YEARS of promises and all this time of dangling us along that Nintendo wouldn't cancel a game less than two months from release. If they do that it's the last straw. F*ck 'em. That would just confirm once and for all that they treat their fans like sh!t and don't deserve anyone's support.

And if it is cancelled somehow I'll get revenge on all the jerks here that have supported the idea (this is sorta a joke). You get the version you want. Let the rest of us get ours.

The sad thing is that if they did cancel it most fans would just suck it up and bend over.

Arbok · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2006, 12:16:05 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
If Nintendo cancels the Cube version I will order the Japanese one and use a translation guide.

Why do I find it hard to believe that you would spend $75 for a version of the game in a language you can't understand, over the $60 Wii version in English.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #7 on:** October 19, 2006, 01:25:10 PM »

$50 Wii version actually.

Just remember Ian is anal and has these principles that nobody understands. I'm still suprised he's still here with Nintendo only loving the nongamers. I keep wondering how he can still stand it. I'm even more suprised he has a DS and is planning to eventually buy a Wii when Brawl comes out. If he wants "hardcore" gaming, he needs a 360 or a PS3. Those are "true gaming machines".

IceCold · « **Reply #8 on:** October 19, 2006, 01:40:42 PM »

On a related note, it seems like Australia will in fact be getting the Cube version, although it will only be available at EBGames AND only one shipment is available. It's scheduled for January 2007..

Ian Sane · « **Reply #9 on:** October 19, 2006, 01:41:28 PM »

"Why do I find it hard to believe that you would spend $75 for a version of the game in a language you can't understand, over the $60 Wii version in English."

The Wii version is $300. I don't have a Wii yet, do I? Meanwhile my Cube is already modded to play Japanese games.

Shecky · « **Reply #10 on:** October 19, 2006, 03:15:04 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pale
In my opinion, this would be a good business decision for Nintendo. Hell, canceling the game all together would be a good business decision for Nintendo.

So Nintendo would pass up free money?

The game exists and will be sold to those who want it. And judging by preorders, there are plenty of those people. It's just probability that not all of those will be getting a Wii, not to mention all the rest that will pick it up for the holidays. Canceling it now would be a bad business decision. They don't need to remove the GCN version to push a piece of hardware that's going to fly off shelves regardless. Heck they even know some crazy folks (like me) will end up getting both versions (kind of like how enthusiasts will buy 3 copies of the same magazine that was released with 3 different covers of their favorite theme)

Can't you see... they're double dipping the best way possible. They did their homework.

Pale · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:10:03 PM »

You all don't understand. It's people like Ian that Nintendo wants to avoid. They don't want the GameCube to be successful anymore. In fact, they don't even want people to think the Wii comes from the same company as the GameCube.

Ian wants nothing to do with the Wii version because he is making baseless assumptions about it and is biased by his desire to be mad at the world. You all should play the Wii version. You will like it better. I'm all for Nintendo forcing people to play it.

I made a long post in the GAF thread as well. Besides my more personal argument above, most of the world doesn't even know the situation the game is in. Don't give those people an option to buy the game for the wrong system.

Pale · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:12:14 PM »

To Shecky: making a couple more bucks off a single string of sales is not as beneficial maintaining a strong reputation for your current console.

IceCold · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:29:11 PM »

Nintendo would gladly pass up on GameCube software sales if it meant that Zelda Wii was a system seller..

jasonditz · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:36:49 PM »

I agree with Ian 100% on this. There's a point of principle here, and Nintendo's credibility (already stretched to the limit as far as I'm concerned) is on the line. Even if they lose money on the Cube version (which they naturally won't), they've been taking pre-orders for it for years, they've explicitly promised it for years, they have it, and they absolutely have to release it.

I'm not even willing to mess around with an import version, this is absolute nonsense. If they scrap the Gamecube version I'm not going to buy a Wii under any circumstances. They're not "forcing me to play the Wii version" for my own good, they're telling me they don't value me as a customer, and as there are plenty of alternatives that do, I see no need to allow a company that's become conceited and disreputable to dictate terms to me, nor to take their word on anything ever again.

Arbok · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:51:52 PM »

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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
$50 Wii version actually.

Oops, was reading that PS3 news release where they mentioned the $60 first party stuff and got my numbers fudged...

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
The Wii version is $300. I don't have a Wii yet, do I? Meanwhile my Cube is already modded to play Japanese games.

The Wii version is $300 only if you plan to toss away Wii Sports and never plan to get another game for the system. And modded or not, you are still talking about paying $25 more for a game in a language you don't understand primarly on principle.

SixthAngel · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:58:22 PM »

This doesn't bother me at all since I planned to get the Wii version but I can see some people being upset.

What I find funny is that some of the people complaining the most are the same people that said Nintendo needs to start doing (slightly underhanded) things like this. They complained when Nintendo didn't do things that would benefit the company and yet they bitch when they actually do it.

mantidor · « **Reply #17 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:15:05 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Why do I find it hard to believe that you would spend $75 for a version of the game in a language you can't understand, over the $60 Wii version in English."

The Wii version is $300. I don't have a Wii yet, do I? Meanwhile my Cube is already modded to play Japanese games.

Seriously, people think that the console comes for free or something, I just cant afford it this year, but even if I could, I still wouldn't get TP wii, Ill even would prefer to get elebits than this game.

and I dont understand that this would help to make the reputation of the console any stronger, everyone who cares already knows TP wii is a GC port, cancelling it would only show that Nintendo is afraid of the comparison or something.

jasonditz · « **Reply #18 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:58:18 PM »

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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
This doesn't bother me at all since I planned to get the Wii version but I can see some people being upset.

What I find funny is that some of the people complaining the most are the same people that said Nintendo needs to start doing (slightly underhanded) things like this. They complained when Nintendo didn't do things that would benefit the company and yet they bitch when they actually do it.

I don't know who was advocating them doing underhanded things, but this turn they've taken has been nothing short of remarkable. If they can the Cube version of Zelda, they'll have gone from a stodgy, goody-two-shoes company to one of the sleaziest players in the game in just a couple years' time.

Arbok · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:34:34 PM »

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Originally posted by: jasonditz
If they can the Cube version of Zelda, they'll have gone from a stodgy, goody-two-shoes company to one of the sleaziest players in the game in just a couple years' time.

Yes, because lord knows this has never happend with a title before...

jasonditz · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:39:06 PM »

Yeah, mediocre second party title gets rebranded with familiar characters due to lack of interest and slips into the next generation, that's an identical situation.

Arbok · « **Reply #21 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:46:10 PM »

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Originally posted by: jasonditz
Yeah, mediocre second party title gets rebranded with familiar characters due to lack of interest and slips into the next generation, that's an identical situation.

Funny, I didn't realize Kameo could be considered a familiar character...

jasonditz · « **Reply #22 on:** October 19, 2006, 08:13:57 PM »

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Originally posted by: Arbok
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
Yeah, mediocre second party title gets rebranded with familiar characters due to lack of interest and slips into the next generation, that's an identical situation.

Funny, I didn't realize Kameo could be considered a familiar character...

Kameo? The link was to Dinosaur Planet...

mantidor · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2006, 08:25:05 PM »

Also the change of platforms here is completly different, we are talking about a whole new control method with the new console, in the past slipping into the next generation only made the graphics the biggest difference, the control method was practically identical. A better analogy is a game that went from the SNES to the N64, but I dont think there are many examples of that, and if it happened Im sure the game had to be rehauled completly.

jasonditz · « **Reply #24 on:** October 19, 2006, 08:37:59 PM »

Also in the past slipping was a function of a game being incomplete... in this case the game was reported to be "essentially finished" over a year ago. Not releasing an in-hand Cube version seems to have little purpose other than spiting it's loyal customers who bought pre-orders for the game over two years ago.

Nintendo's denying this rumor, thank God... but given the recent track record I'm sweating this until the day I have the game in my hand.

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