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Originally posted by: Pale
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
I agree with Ian 100% on this. There's a point of principle here, and Nintendo's credibility (already stretched to the limit as far as I'm concerned) is on the line. Even if they lose money on the Cube version (which they naturally won't), they've been taking pre-orders for it for years, they've explicitly promised it for years, they have it, and they absolutely have to release it.
I'm not even willing to mess around with an import version, this is absolute nonsense. If they scrap the Gamecube version I'm not going to buy a Wii under any circumstances. They're not "forcing me to play the Wii version" for my own good, they're telling me they don't value me as a customer, and as there are plenty of alternatives that do, I see no need to allow a company that's become conceited and disreputable to dictate terms to me, nor to take their word on anything ever again.
Nintendo's biggest enemy is fans like you then. If you followed through with this with every other company that has donen something similar, you would not be buying many games. The long and short of the situation is... A game got moved from one console to the next. This is NOT the first time this has happened. Why does everyone let the Nintendo/Zelda mistique cloud their judgement? I really do think part of the reason Nintendo decided to go for a new audience is because they were sick of trying to do the impossible; please their hardcore fans.
Yeah, Nintendo's biggest enemy is fans that bought 90+ Gamecube titles. They're much better off catering to little old ladies who bought a DS and Brain Age because CNN Headline News said it would keep them from going senile.
I think Nintendo, and fans like you that are willing to self-lubricate before penetration, are learning entirely the wrong lesson from this generation. The DS got it's big break on the basis of non-games and Sony incompetence. It's still a completely unproven assertion that non-games can work in the same way on a home console, and Sony's incompetence is going to happen at any rate.
The reason I would never buy another Nintendo console if they pulled Zelda from the Cube is quite simple: there's no reason to trust them not doing the same damned thing to the Wii. Look at the past year what we've gotten (Post Fire Emblem, which came out just over a year ago today)... the answer is damn little. The forgettable Odama and a Chibi Robo game you can beat in a single sitting. That's the entire year's first party offering. In fact, we can go back further.
Metroid Prime 2 came out less than 3 years after launch... and you can count the number of worthwhile first party games that came after that on one hand. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not willing to shell out launch prices for a console that's liable to be left to rot on the vine 3 years in.
At E3 this year, Reggie talked about sending the Gamecube out in style. He was, of course, speaking of Super Paper Mario, which has since been cancelled. I'm willing to overlook that fact for now because the better half of what Reggie's said at E3's have been flat out lies... but going out in style would've been a good idea.
Going out in style may be a pipedream at this point, but going out with a shred of class is still attainable. Look, whatever they did in the past year to TP is beside the point. This game is going out in less than two months some places, which means that it's out of the development stage now. It's done. Right now... they're playtesting, maybe getting the bugs out, but it's a finished game.
People keep talking about this having happened many times in the past, has it? Has a company ever thrown a finished, high profile last-gen title into the garbage just to try to drum up sales for the next generation? Because frankly I can't think of a time that's been the case.