Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 829464 times)

Shorty McNostril · « **Reply #1500 on:** February 26, 2007, 07:05:00 PM »

Here is something worth a laugh. A Phil Harrison interview.

Rumble is sooooo last gen

Among other things he goes on to say that rumble is not needed anymore. The motion sensing is the new in thing.

He also says that they have are feeling no pressure to drop the price. Blu-Ray in the ps3 was the best decision they have ever made. Etc. Etc.

darknight06 · « **Reply #1501 on:** February 27, 2007, 02:51:42 AM »

Whenever they get the price of the SixAxis down some, they're gonna put out one with rumble. You know they will. There's a certain controller out there that does both and then some and I know they aren't gonna let that slide for long.

Unless this isn't PR BS and they actually mean it...

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1502 on:** February 27, 2007, 03:31:55 AM »

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Originally posted by: Shorty McNostril
Here is something worth a laugh. A Phil Harrison interview.

Rumble is sooooo last gen

Among other things he goes on to say that rumble is not needed anymore. The motion sensing is the new in thing.

He also says that they have are feeling no pressure to drop the price. Blu-Ray in the ps3 was the best decision they have ever made. Etc. Etc.

You forgot the best quote though

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I think Nintendo, although I am very respectful of the innovation in Wii, and I think everybody should be respectful of it, I’m not sure that it has the technology base to propel that platform in the long-term. So I think their platform lifecycle is inherently going to be shorter, so they could have learned from us in terms of the high technology approach.

Arbok · « **Reply #1503 on:** February 27, 2007, 05:32:47 AM »

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Originally posted by: darknight06
Whenever they get the price of the SixAxis down some, they're gonna put out one with rumble. You know they will. There's a certain controller out there that does both and then some and I know they aren't gonna let that slide for long.

There is also a certain lawsuit out there that stopped them from adding it in the first place:

http://www.lunabean.com/news/20050329_the_sony_patent.php

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1504 on:** February 27, 2007, 06:44:40 AM »

But there is also two different companies that made it very public that not only is rumble possible for Sony to use in sixaxis, but they have the perfect tech for them to use. It just so happens that one of those 2 companies happen to be the one that has a lawsuit against them, and accepting rumble from the other would be admiting that rumble is possible. So don't expect rumble anytime soon if ever on the PS3.

Blue Plant · « **Reply #1505 on:** February 27, 2007, 07:55:02 AM »

Gotta love dumb pride.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #1506 on:** February 28, 2007, 01:47:08 AM »

Sony's MOM is so last gen.

Yeah, I don't understand why can't so just admit that they couldn't get rumble in for legal reasons, and move on. I would have more respect for Sony if they weren't making excuses and bashing the competition to try to save public image. That is one reason I love Nintendo and I am encouraged by Microsoft, they aren't attacking each other as much, but instead just creating the games and gaming experience they want.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1507 on:** February 28, 2007, 03:03:37 AM »

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Gotta love dumb pride.

Bingo! I was reading someone recently who said that the fact that none of Sony's execs are admitting there is a problem here is a bad sign, and I think that may be true. It's like they're collectively slapping their hands over their ears and shouting "La-la-la, I can't HEAR YOU!" If that's the internal attitude, how are they going to fix any problems? I don't know if it's really the internal attitude - maybe they're just putting on a brave face for the press - but there are problems, and they need to be addressed.

My favourite quote is this:

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Talk to the people who run GameStop, talk to the people who run BestBuy, and they'll tell you that the demand is unprecedented and that they give us kudos for managing to keep a very sophisticated supply chain moving.

Yet somehow, Wii is outselling the "unprecedented" PS3.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1508 on:** February 28, 2007, 05:06:37 AM »

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
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Talk to the people who run GameStop, talk to the people who run BestBuy, and they'll tell you that the demand is unprecedented and that they give us kudos for managing to keep a very sophisticated supply chain moving.

Yet somehow, Wii is outselling the "unprecedented" PS3.

The ironic part is that these same Gamestops and BBs have PS3s in stock that aren't selling.

Good luck finding a Wii, STILL...

Ghisy · « **Reply #1509 on:** February 28, 2007, 05:17:06 AM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
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I think Nintendo, although I am very respectful of the innovation in Wii, and I think everybody should be respectful of it, I’m not sure that it has the technology base to propel that platform in the long-term. So I think their platform lifecycle is inherently going to be shorter, so they could have learned from us in terms of the high technology approach.

OMG! Best.Quote.EVER.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1510 on:** February 28, 2007, 06:43:39 AM »

2 weeks in a row I was ar best buy and they had THE SAME PILE of ps3s, and when i asked if they are getting any more Wii remotes in they said "good luck finding anyting for Wii" GS even yelled at an employee for selling me thier shelf copy of wiiplay because it wa thier last copy and they needed to mail it for a rpe order, but since the sale was already wrung up I made them sell it to me.

BigJim · « **Reply #1511 on:** February 28, 2007, 07:49:12 AM »

I figured it out. Sony must have hired Saddam's Minister of Information for their sales and research department.

Just in case you were as concerned as I was, Sony expects to resolve PS3 shortages by May.

Praise them for solving this crisis.

You have to give them credit. When was the last time Nintendo's PR made you laugh?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1512 on:** February 28, 2007, 08:40:13 AM »

2 million shipping goal and proud of his large shipment numbers?

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1513 on:** February 28, 2007, 09:04:49 AM »

All Sony HAS is shipment numbers. They have to be proud of something...

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1514 on:** February 28, 2007, 09:53:27 AM »

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Originally posted by: BigJim
I figured it out. Sony must have hired Saddam's Minister of Information for their sales and research department.

Just in case you were as concerned as I was, Sony expects to resolve PS3 shortages by May.

Praise them for solving this crisis.

You have to give them credit. When was the last time Nintendo's PR made you laugh?

ROFL, that is hilarious, are you sure it isn't a joke? I've been seeing PS3s on the shelf all over the place since early January!

BigJim · « **Reply #1515 on:** February 28, 2007, 12:05:55 PM »

Straight from Reuters. They actually believe this.

Arbok · « **Reply #1516 on:** February 28, 2007, 02:10:37 PM »

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"We're in pretty good shape to do that. The early returns are quite favorable," Tretton said.

In January, Sony sold 244,000 PlayStation 3s, compared to 294,000 for the Xbox 360 and 436,000 for the Wii.

LOL, love how that was ordered in the Reuters article.

IceCold · « **Reply #1517 on:** February 28, 2007, 05:13:25 PM »

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"It's a testament to the fact that we've been able to manufacture and ship units on a greater pace than any previous console," Tretton said.

I'm sorry?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1518 on:** February 28, 2007, 06:10:32 PM »

I think he wasn't informed about the PSP, that thing hit market saturation in no time.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1519 on:** February 28, 2007, 06:37:58 PM »

You have to remember that "shipped" & "sold" means different things between to companies that use the terms.

Sony:
Shipped = manufactured and then moved to a Sony warehouse
Sold = Bought by Retailer, product shipped or in transit to local distribution channel

MS:
Shipped = Bought by Retailer, shipped to local distribution channel, possibly in transit to Retailer
Sold = Purchased from Retailer by customer

Nintendo:
Shipped = In transit to, or already in the hands of the Retailer.
Sold = Purchased from Retailer by customer

I don't remember seeing MS use the term "sold" very often and I don't remember seeing Nintendo use the term "shipped" at all.

IceCold · « **Reply #1520 on:** February 28, 2007, 06:46:05 PM »

I know that, but the Wii has sold more than the PS3 has shipped.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1521 on:** February 28, 2007, 07:16:22 PM »

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I know that, but the Wii has sold more than the PS3 has shipped.

I wasnt' saing it specifically to you or anyone for that matter. I was just stating it for whoever didn't already know.

*whispers*
You never know whos lurking around here

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1522 on:** February 28, 2007, 08:04:04 PM »

Nintendo does use ship in the future tense, though.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1523 on:** March 01, 2007, 02:36:55 AM »

Yeah, that's true. Like when they didn't hit 4 million Wiis at the end of the year, Nintendo was all like, "if you include all the ones in the shipping channel"...so they meant 4 million "shipped", not sold (or they're just saving face after the fact, whatever).

Sony can say whatever it wants about shipping, the fact is Wii is kicking its butt. Sony counteracts with the usual spin: "People will lose interest because of the graphics..." Maybe that's true, but if you believe that people buy game systems for the games, then graphics don't matter that much and Nintendo's current sales bode very well.

capamerica · « **Reply #1524 on:** March 01, 2007, 03:17:52 AM »

MS has used the word "Sold" a few times and they seem to be using it correctly in the sence they have Sold the unit to someone who will actually play it.

Sony tried attacking MS, saying MS uses the same definition as they do for "Shipped" and "Sold". With "Sold" meaning that the units have been Sold to the retailers. But MS came out and said that when they are referring to the system as being "Shipped" they mean the system has been Shipped to Retailers and when they say "Sold" they mean that the system is in the hands of the buyer.

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