Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 839363 times)

Ghisy · « **Reply #1900 on:** May 27, 2007, 10:08:30 AM »

I've never lost a game either.
Not even a DS or GBA one, I always put it back in its box if I don't play it.
Not everyone does that...

Ceric · « **Reply #1901 on:** May 27, 2007, 11:42:58 AM »

I've lost games for two reasons. Moving or my Little brother.

Kairon · « **Reply #1902 on:** May 27, 2007, 12:50:00 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I love my HD-DVD (The Xbox 360 one)player and will soon be getting Blu-Ray (yes a stand alone player, I don't want my PS3 burning my house down while watching movies). So it better stick around!

Huh? But isn't a standalone player JUST AS EXPENSIVE as a PS3? Besides, as long as you've got house insurance and a fire-proof lockbox, you can sue the pants off Sony when it DOES happen!

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1903 on:** May 27, 2007, 07:28:24 PM »

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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
Am I the only one who has never lost a game before? I've had some people borrow some and never return them, but that is different... I usually take good care of things, and I've learned if people want to borrow games from me now they better leave a deposit.

I suspect that's what happened here as well, except they didn't bother to tell me they're borrowing the game.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #1904 on:** May 27, 2007, 07:40:29 PM »

Let's see, I loaned my copy of Starfox to a neighbor one time. I got it back about half a year later when some strange Asian kid I didn't know rang the doorbell and asked if it was my game. I don't think I ever got that kids name, nor the full story behind what happened, but at least I got Starfox back.

On topic, the PS3 received update 1.80. This update adds a ton of features, from what I've read, but will not update backwards-compatibility for those stuck with those crappy European consoles. I feel bad for any European Playstation fans out there. They got completely gypped. After all, there were told the PS3 would have full backwards compatibility, then I bet a ton of them sold their PS2s before they went down too far in value, then the PS3 was delayed, and didn't wind up with a decent BC list at all. Isn't there a lawsuit somewhere in this issue?

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #1905 on:** May 28, 2007, 10:54:15 PM »

i don't know how, but i lost my original Advance Wars game on GBA. I don't recall letting anyone borrow it and not give it back. Doesn't matter though I guess.

Anyways how bad is the backwards compatibility in Europe?

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #1906 on:** May 29, 2007, 05:11:57 AM »

Europe always get the shaft when it comes to video games. I think it has always been this way... Do Europeans typically buy less video games than NA or Japan? Or is it just too much of a hassle to get them over there? Being PAL instead of NTSC probably hurts....

But, it is nice that at least for this generation Nintendo managed to do a simultaeous launch and so Europeans could buy the Wii on the same day as Americans and Japanese (if they were lucky or persistent enough anyway). But Sony still is screwing them over with a really late launch there, and the backwards compatibility problems, and don't Europeans pay considerably more for the PS3 too?

Sony is probably going to be third place in every region this generation, but I think in Europe they will do the most poorly....

Oh yeah, and let's never forget that racist ad campaign they did when they introduced the white PSP to Europe... I hope Europeans never forget that.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1907 on:** May 29, 2007, 07:22:13 AM »

Do Europeans typically buy less video games than NA or Japan?

I suppose so since we'd have to pay more for them so less fit into a budget. Additionally PC games are much cheaper than console games and most people buy those instead.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1908 on:** June 01, 2007, 06:48:42 AM »

I think Sony is really getting desperate now with their new Wii experi...... I mean Sony Lifestyle ad campaign for the US.

Is their anything that they won't copy?

Ceric · « **Reply #1909 on:** June 04, 2007, 05:06:09 AM »

Sony Dropping price of its BDP-S300 player to $499.99

Thus making the PS3 the Second least Blu-Ray player. Speculation says that Sony will need to drop the price of the PS3 to compensate as well. Though I see them doing it when the release the PS3 Gimped Edition here in the States.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1910 on:** June 04, 2007, 06:39:29 AM »

I don't see a price drop coming at all, at least not this year. If anything I see them making a profit off of the $499 player and hoping that will help offset some of the losses of the PS3 since they aren't making it back up on software sales like planned. The more standalones sold automatically = profit, and jopefully more BR movie sales to replace the not-so hot PS3 software sales.

All a cheaper standalone player means is that Sony figured out how to reduce cost of the BR playing components, which might mean they are now taking less of a loss on PS3 than before, but not enough to drop the price. Not yet anyway.

I think when you see a $399(or less) BRD player then you will see a $499 PS3 being sold at or near cost.
when that $299(or less) BRD player hits, we might see a $399 PS3 being sold at cost or small profit.

But thats all just my opinon

Ceric · « **Reply #1911 on:** June 04, 2007, 07:41:29 AM »

I agree, unless the Gimped Version comes everywhere else. Though another thing that would help Sony a little is to have an earlier release of the Blu-Ray versions of title then there DVD equivalent. Won't help much but if you get people into the mindset of that then it will help some. Also have a bigger presence in places like Target, Walmart, and K-Mart would help as well.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1912 on:** June 04, 2007, 09:10:45 AM »

I think we might see a price drop this year...I mean...if you really look at the games business, I think it's safe to say that Sony is dead meat if it doesn't stimulate sales by the end of 2007, and I don't think Ratchet and Clank and a few unknown Sony exclusives are going to do that. That said...the bottom line may prevent it.

I'd love to know what Sony is thinking right now. "Our hand are tied, third place will have to do"? Or does the company really believe the technological advantage is going to put PS3 ahead 2-3 years down the road? Because by that time the third parties are going to be loooong gone.

Edit: Further to that, N'Gai Croal and another games journalist at Newsweek were discussing third parties and some people in the industry have been telling them that if PS3 sales don't buck up PS3 games are going to start getting canceled. Worse, some games that are already complete are being delayed because there aren't enough users yet.

Ceric · « **Reply #1913 on:** June 04, 2007, 09:14:02 AM »

I wonder when they are going to realize that they are this gens Gamecube. Tied down by a less advance machine.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1914 on:** June 04, 2007, 08:35:08 PM »

If they don't shape up, they will be last gens Dreamscast. A dead system with supporters who just don't know how to let go.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1915 on:** June 05, 2007, 06:19:48 AM »

LAFFO

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #1916 on:** June 05, 2007, 06:23:03 AM »

If a system can screw up a year lead (Xbox 360) then a horrible first year won't kill a system. Ok...it might.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #1917 on:** June 05, 2007, 07:53:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I think we might see a price drop this year...I mean...if you really look at the games business, I think it's safe to say that Sony is dead meat if it doesn't stimulate sales by the end of 2007, and I don't think Ratchet and Clank and a few unknown Sony exclusives are going to do that. That said...the bottom line may prevent it.

I'd love to know what Sony is thinking right now. "Our hand are tied, third place will have to do"? Or does the company really believe the technological advantage is going to put PS3 ahead 2-3 years down the road? Because by that time the third parties are going to be loooong gone.

Edit: Further to that, N'Gai Croal and another games journalist at Newsweek were discussing third parties and some people in the industry have been telling them that if PS3 sales don't buck up PS3 games are going to start getting canceled. Worse, some games that are already complete are being delayed because there aren't enough users yet.

that's what they get for counting their eggs before they hatch. each generation should be seen as new and a fresh start. companies latching onto PS3 because they "just knew" it was going to win, deserve what they are getting.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1918 on:** June 05, 2007, 08:47:03 AM »

It's official: Sony is the big, dumb, retarded kid on the playground who goes around imitating other kids because of his morbid insecurity and total lack of social skills.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1919 on:** June 05, 2007, 09:29:17 AM »

Can't really buy their way into social stardom thru big-budget advertising now, can they?

Arbok · « **Reply #1920 on:** June 05, 2007, 10:09:13 AM »

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Edit: Further to that, N'Gai Croal and another games journalist at Newsweek were discussing third parties and some people in the industry have been telling them that if PS3 sales don't buck up PS3 games are going to start getting canceled.

*from the article*

"Do and end-run around the 360 by communicating that the PS3 as the "ultimate Blu-Ray player" to even a non-game audience."

Uh, yeah, no... Color me crazy, but I don't see people, especially non-gamers, suddenly rushing to get a $600 system that's "the ultimate Blu-Ray player".

Also, anyone else laugh how his response to the NPD figures was 90% on the PS3 and 360, and then slipped in a quick paragraph at the end about how:

"As for your question about Nintendo storming to first place, it's creating concern but not panic."

It might merit more conversation on that point alone... but considering he was a former writer for the Official Xbox Magazine, I somehow doubt he would be the most unbiast source anyway.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #1921 on:** June 05, 2007, 11:07:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
If a system can screw up a year lead (Xbox 360) then a horrible first year won't kill a system. Ok...it might.

The one thing which saved the 360 was that it didn't face any next generation competition for a whole year. The PS3 has no such luxury.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1922 on:** June 05, 2007, 11:27:13 AM »

Is it even outperforming the original Xbox yet? Cuz that's not much of a save.

Arbok · « **Reply #1923 on:** June 05, 2007, 11:37:22 AM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Is it even outperforming the original Xbox yet?

I'm pretty sure it has now, particularly due to strong performance in the US... although it has lost even more ground in Japan in contrast, which is really bad considering that the PS3 isn't doing hot there either now.

denjet78 · « **Reply #1924 on:** June 05, 2007, 11:45:37 AM »

Wow.

That article, um... sucked. I can't believe I read that whole back and forth. They basically still seem to think that it's going to come down to Sony vs MS. They don't even say anything about Nintendo being in a different market or anything, they just pretend that they don't exist and when they do mention Nintendo it's usually a quick blurb about how well they're doing with a jab about how the Wii is going to flop sooner than later.

People have been saying that since the controller was unveiled.

Really, what does Nintendo have to do to get any kind of respect? The Wii is selling faster than the PS2 did and they're still getting knocked? There really must be some sort of conspiracy out there against them. What else makes any sense?

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