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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Yes but it's cheaper to not make a OSX port and maintain that. The small number of Mac users who won't buy your product because of that won't make enough money for you to make the port worthwile.
Are you even reading what I'm saying? Only the VERY NEWEST MACS can run Boot Camp. Every Mac sold since 1999 still runs OSX and can run the apps which we're talking about here, including every iMac out there.
Let's stop programming for 90% of the Mac userbase because 10% can run windows. Great idea, and even the 10% who own Intel-based Macs likely own older Macs (like me) and intend to still use those older Macs until they're no longer supported, which looks to not be any time soon.
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The first, obvious step is to let IE (and Outlook if you're using an email client) kick the bucket and use Opera (most govts already issued warnings saying that so it should be expectable).
I prefer Firefox, but why does this seem like common sense? You'd think that the browser which the OS ships with wouldn't need to be replaced because it's full of gaping security holes.
One of the reasons I love Macs is because I can entrust one to ANYONE, no matter how computer illiterate they may be, and once they figure out the basics of the OS, I NEVER HEAR BACK FROM THEM. My aunt used to do all of her eBay listing on a PC which kept dying on her. We gave her a G4 running OSX and it has literally been years since I've had to explain anything to her.
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Second obvious step is to use a firewall (if you put any computer on the net without a firewall in between you're stupid) like the NAT provided by any router or even a firewall employed by your ISP. Then the only spyware you can get is from software you install. Surprise, when you install stuff you usually have superuser privileges and spyware could crap all over your kernel.
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Of course Macs have security through obscurity right now but as any sane person could tell you, security through obscurity is no security at all.
*Cough*No one's offering $50,000 to write a virus for windows, bucko. I don't care how "obscure" the OS is, when $50,000 is up for grabs and STILL no one has done it, your little "oh, no one cares about viruses for macs!" argument goes right out the window.
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A quick spyware scan came up as clean as it was on the first day (and every subsequent day). Sure, a few tracking cookies but you can't tell me that's an OS problem. Virus scans were clean all the time. Comparison: My sister and father are stupid users and they regularly catch viruses and spyware (from the warez they download).
Thanks for proving my point. My entire argument is that you shouldn't have to take steps to protect computers from the internet and your comment about your father and sister solidifies the fact that Windows out of the box will destroy itself.
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That's because noone can be bothered to write software for Macs, even hackers.
Must be some rich hackers out there if the $50,000 isn't enticing enough, and that's being offered by Symantec, makers of Norton, who would benefit immensely if they could sell Anti-virus software for the Mac.
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Granted, Windows lacking su and sudo doesn't make LPU as comfortable as it is under unix derivates but it's possible nonetheless. Sure there is privilege escalation but the only reason I've never seen anyone do that on a Mac is because I've never seen anyone using a Mac in a multiuser environment.
If you haven't seen a Mac working in a multiuser environment, then you've never been to a college library or computer room and it sounds like you don't have much experience with Macs in general.
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You could hire a few hackers and they'd show you in five minutes that if Macs were worth targeting they'd own that system (if Macs were unhackable, don't you think people would use them for all security-critical applications?). Even NASA programs have bugs and those are checked hundreds of times per line and have formal proof for everything. If someone bothered to dig enough he'd find a weakness.
You keep saying this, and yet you provide absolutely no evidence to back it up (not even a link to a hacker-wannabe site with little 13 year old script kiddîes saying OSX isn't worth hacking).
And five minutes, you say? In that case, those hackers must already make $600,000 an hour to not want to be bothered to take Norton up on their offer (60 minutes / 5 minutes = 12 * $50,000 = $600,000 per hour).
You know what? I'll do your research FOR you:
HEREA Mac OSX trojan. It's not a virus so Norton won't pay them, but if the user opens it, then it can infect files.