Topic: Mario Galaxy

[GoldenPhoenix]

CHobot chooses Mass Effect for game of the year. Says that Mario is based off an established franchise and Mass Effect is "out of the box" new.

[ShyGuy]

Women obviously don't know anything about video games.

[KDR_11k]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I wonder how their retro review of Mario 64 would go:

Pros:
~One of the best games ever

Cons:
~You collect stars
~THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!

Score: 7

fixed

[NWR_insanolord]

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
CHobot chooses Mass Effect for game of the year. Says that Mario is based off an established franchise and Mass Effect is "out of the box" new.

That shouldn't matter in the overall GOTY award. And out of the box is a bit of a stretch for Mass Effect; it introduces some really cool new things, but in the end it's a Western-style RPG, and those are far from out of the box new. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Mass Effect is a fantastic game, and I was considering buying a 360 almost solely because of it, it's just not that new. And hey, at least she didn't pick Halo 3.

[Bill Aurion]

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
CHobot chooses Mass Effect for game of the year. Says that Mario is based off an established franchise and Mass Effect is "out of the box" new.

Funny, with impressions saying it feels like KOTOR with a new coat of paint...And the art design looks awful... =/

[Coffee&Cigarettes]

Who cares about the score? That's a great review from 1up.

[Kairon]

7.5 from NWR confirmed.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Coffee&Cigarettes
Who cares about the score? That's a great review from 1up.

Once again it is the double standard, there were absolutely ZERO flaws mentioned about the game (what was there was buried in a wall of text and even that was minor) and it got a 9.5/10 while something like Halo 3 which had many flaws was given a 10.  

[NWR_pap64]

Here's how 1up's review for Brawl is going to be like:
Pros:
- The best SSB game EVER!
- Tons of extras, modes, characters, stages, EVERYTHING
- Great online modes

Cons:
- Its more of the same
- Single player is repetitive
- Online mode is laggy and slow

Final score: 8 out of 10

[Coffee&Cigarettes]

Jeremy Parish gave Halo 3 a 9.0. It's stupid to compare review scores (period), but if you must, compare single reviewers and not entire websites. Parish gave Zelda a 10, btw.

[Coffee&Cigarettes]

and a 10 doesn't mean perfection. it's not like a 9.5 is significantly different from a 10 - you don't have to justify a 9.5 by adding complaints. And if you give a game a 10, you should still be able to complain. I thought people here didn't pay attention to review scores.

[Bill Aurion]

I'm more annoyed with the fact they printed a "Why Mario Galaxy should get a 10" article before yanking out the rug from everyone's feet...It's completely unprofessional...  

[Nick DiMola]

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Originally posted by: Coffee&Cigarettes
and a 10 doesn't mean perfection. it's not like a 9.5 is significantly different from a 10 - you don't have to justify a 9.5 by adding complaints. And if you give a game a 10, you should still be able to complain. I thought people here didn't pay attention to review scores.

It's not the score that's annoying, it's the double standard when it comes to Nintendo games. For some reason Nintendo games are always torn to shreds in reviews over every little thing, and with other more mainstream franchises all flaws are overlooked come the time to post a score. I honestly don't care what any publication has to say, I can make my buying decisions myself, it's just ass that these sites perpetuate the Nintendo hate across the gaming community.

Another great example of this can be found on Kotaku. The level editor in Halo 3 was talked up to be the greatest thing in the history of gaming, while the SSBB level editor is no big deal at all to them. It's frustrating that the gaming media hates Nintendo so much. It makes it impossible to enjoy Nintendo games with casual (what the media calls hardcore) gamers because they think all Nintendo stuff is k!ddy garbage. I'm just sick of the double standards and the constant misconstruing of Nintendo's products.

[Luigi Dude]

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Originally posted by: Coffee&Cigarettes
and a 10 doesn't mean perfection. it's not like a 9.5 is significantly different from a 10 - you don't have to justify a 9.5 by adding complaints. And if you give a game a 10, you should still be able to complain. I thought people here didn't pay attention to review scores.

The thing is, unlike IGN and Gamespot, 1up has no problem giving out 10's.  In just the last few months they gave Bioshock, Halo 3 and Orange Box all 10's.  A 10 from 1up is the equivalent to a 9.5 from IGN and Gamestop, meaning 1up really gave Mario Galaxy a 9 out of 10 which is a complete insult and they know it.  Not to mention this quote in their review

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In short, Galaxy is one of the most impressive, engrossing games in recent memory -- and quite the contrast to the rest of this year's triple-A gaming crop, which tends toward the dark, the M-rated, and the first-person perspective.

They even admit that Mario Galaxy is just as good as Bioshock and Halo 3, yet they can't give Mario a 10 even though Bioshock and Halo 3 were both given 10's.  This just shows that 1up has become so bias against Nintendo in the last year that they're intentionally giving Nintendo games lower scores just so they don't look as good as Xbox and PS3 games.  

[Coffee&Cigarettes]

different people reviewed all of those games, so I don't think your words are fair.

[ShyGuy]

Look, if 1up is going to give their reviews a number (even if they don't want to and they just do that because that is what their readers want) then we have the right to compare those scores to their other reviews. That's the point of the numbers, to give a unit of measurement to use as a point of reference. They don't get to have it both ways.  

[Urkel]

Ha. I called this.

Actually, a 9.5 is a little higher than I was expecting from 1up, but the bottom line is it had no chance of getting a 10.

Do you honestly expect the hardcore gaming journos to give a Wii game the same score as "hardcore next-gen epics" like Halo and Bioshock and Mass Effect? That would be admitting that the Wii is just as capable at delivering an amazing hardcore experience as these powerhouse HD behemoths, and that's something they're just not capable of doing.

Like I said, Zelda getting a 10 was just a fluke. They figured it was the last time Nintendo would ever be relevent, so they decided to play nice.

Don't expect any other Wii game to get a 10... ever.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Mass Effect is a fantastic game, and I was considering buying a 360 almost solely because of it, it's just not that new.

All it takes for a game to be considered "new" these days is to not share the exact same name and setting as previous games in the series. People aren't smart enough to figure out that they're still sequels.

[Adrock]

Twilight Princess didn't deserve a 10.......

Super Mario Galaxy, from what I played, probably does... or at least deserves a higher score than Zelda.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Look at the other side of things.

Halo3 getting a 10 shows how "MEH" the 360 line-up really is.  But the fishy part is first Bioshock getting a 10, setting the bar, yet Halo3 gets a 10 so we should interpret that as the bar being set even HIGHER?

[Ceric]

Personally,

As much as I've gotten to play of the game, which is admittedly very little, it doesn't seem like a perfect 10 game to me but, a perfect 10 from me would be really hard to get becuase I'm just not that committal.

[Mashiro]

Coffee&Cigarettes if you ever following 1UP.com and their podcast, videos and journalism (if you want to call it that) you will quickly realize they have a fairly large bias towards Nintendo related products.

I also find it incredibly unfair to knock the game for lack of HD output when the system just can't do it. It'd be like saying "Man Halo sure is great but LACK OF MOTION CONTROLS may piss some players off".

[Ceric]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Coffee&Cigarettes if you ever following 1UP.com and their podcast, videos and journalism (if you want to call it that) you will quickly realize they have a fairly large bias towards Nintendo related products.

I also find it incredibly unfair to knock the game for lack of HD output when the system just can't do it. It'd be like saying "Man Halo sure is great but LACK OF MOTION CONTROLS may piss some players off".

You know it does.  Even though I never played the game.

[Mashiro]

Lol maybe so but they didn't dock points from the score for lack of it

[Ceric]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Lol maybe so but they didn't dock points from the score for lack of it

Crummy Journalistic integrity.  Thats Discrimination.  Civil Rights Activists Assemble and Roll-out.

[Luigi Dude]

Well here's the American Mario Galaxy commercial

Well the bad news is it's still one of those stupid Wii would like to play commercials that doesn't really tell the average person anything about the game.  

But the good news is it's not a complete abomination like the Mario Sunshine commercial.