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RickPowers · « **on:** May 09, 2006, 09:18:16 AM »

Wii Wins.

Seriously, Wii is going to score big, but it won't be because of the name. The price and the gameplay are what's really going to make Wii a success. Judging by the press conference, Wii is going to completely redefine gaming.

Disruptive indeed.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:20:06 AM »

lol Rick, glad you came around

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:23:47 AM »

...You were seriously IMPRESSED with what they showed, Rick?

I honestly wasn't all that impressed. Sure, I only read about it and missed some details, but considering the hype the conference got, it was pretty dissapointing.

I was honestly expecting more Nintendo games being shown off, like wario, Metroid and SSB.

Nintendo also left out a lot of details about their console.

Can someone sum up the entire conference and point out the amazing stuff? I honestly wasn't feeling it...

Also, I didn't catch it when they talked about the name, but I am still not convinced about the name working...

I thought you were pretty clear as to why the name might not work, Rick. What's up?

Mario · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:26:29 AM »

^ Wario and Metroid WERE shown off, did you even watch the conference?

vudu · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:29:08 AM »

So how's the games look in person?

The Omen · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:30:57 AM »

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I thought you were pretty clear as to why the name might not work, Rick. What's up?

He didn't say he likes the name now. He said the games and controls will make it a non factor.

trip1eX · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:31:00 AM »

I enjoyed their conference. A party compared to Sony's. I think Nintendo hasn't shown all their cards yet tho. They are still holding back.

RickPowers · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:31:04 AM »

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Originally posted by: pap64
...You were seriously IMPRESSED with what they showed, Rick?

I honestly wasn't all that impressed. Sure, I only read about it and missed some details, but considering the hype the conference got, it was pretty dissapointing.

Well, if you didn't WATCH the press conference, you missed EVERYTHING. You really had to see it.

For the record, I wasn't watching it live, since I couldn't get to E3 due to my schedule. I watched the GameSpot stream. That said, I'm a believer. I still think the name sucks, and it's truly unfortunate that it might hinder what would otherwise be unfathomable sales rates, but anyon that gets their hands on this thing (or even sees people having fun with it) will be sold. Instantly.

At the risk of blowing my cover ... if you really want to know what I thought, check out my blog. You guys knew that Rick Powers was just an alias, right? Right?

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:31:44 AM »

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Originally posted by: Mario
^ Wario and Metroid WERE shown off, did you even watch the conference?

I only read about it. But from what I read and heard, the only showed off a video of them. What I meant is that I wanted them to shown off on stage, show off how the games worked with the controller in real time. I wanted a full blown presentation, not video.

And Rick, I was talking about it with a friend who was watching it live and he wasn't all that impressed either...

I just fail to see why the conference was so amazing considering the details talked about were pretty basic...

Strell · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:36:50 AM »

That's like saying you don't think ice cream tastes good because someone just described it for you.

Or sex isn't fun because you saw a crappy porno and decided it would be boring.

Michael8983 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:37:14 AM »

"I only read about it. But from what I read and heard, the only showed off a video of them. What I meant is that I wanted them to shown off on stage, show off how the games worked with the controller in real time. I wanted a full blown presentation, not video."

Be patient. E3 hasn't really even started yet.
I'm sure most if not all of the games will be playable. I'd rather read lengthy impressions from people have played the games than short demos from Nintendo reps anyway. The conference was just a tease. We just have to wait a little longer for the real info.

willie1234 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:39:51 AM »

listen to what people are telling you - watch for yourself and then decide. we've had enough nailbiting leading up to this to last a life time, now we have real hands on experience. also check out the ign red steel video, it's amazing.

seeing is believing.

RickPowers · « **Reply #12 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:42:49 AM »

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Originally posted by: pap64

I only read about it. But from what I read and heard, the only showed off a video of them. What I meant is that I wanted them to shown off on stage, show off how the games worked with the controller in real time. I wanted a full blown presentation, not video.

And Rick, I was talking about it with a friend who was watching it live and he wasn't all that impressed either...

I just fail to see why the conference was so amazing considering the details talked about were pretty basic...

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't really watching the games. I was watching the people playing. And judging by the looks on their faces, and the way they were moving the controller, I have no doubt that what I "felt" when I saw that is exactly what others will feel as well.

I think we're past "games" now. I think we're quickly approaching an era of "experiential play", and Nintendo is going to be the pioneer. All of a sudden, the Blue Ocean Strategy makes sense. Nintendo just went and moved from being a games company and did it in a way that hardly anyone noticed until it was too late. Strangely, it works. I always told people that asked "why do you play games", that I did it for the experiences rather than to simply waste time. I (and I think many of you) keyed into that on a visceral level that we were only vaguely aware of. Nintendo has simply managed to lock onto it in a more tangible form, and then realized it.

I only have one complaint ... where's my PunchOut! game?!

Edit: Ok, two complaints ... no Wii version of Nintendogs???

Caterkiller · « **Reply #13 on:** May 09, 2006, 10:32:31 AM »

I too got amazingly excited when I saw the people playing the games. I mean this is what its really all about. When Miyamoto started playing Tennis with everyone I was like "wow." He really looked like he was playing a real game of tennis, and that has me excited like nothing I have ever seen. And tomorrow we will have much more information about people who will actualy have a chance to play the games and really let us know if its as much fun as it looks.

I think Project Hammer looks pretty fun, though a little generic (but hey the masses love generic right?)
And that natural disaster game or what ever has sparked my interest. I really expected at least one cartoonish type of IP to be shown, I guess Nintendo can't be the same forever.

As for Mario... I am so pleased that it was finaly shown, and I can't wait to get my hands on it.

wandering · « **Reply #14 on:** May 09, 2006, 10:32:46 AM »

*nods in response to Rick's post*

Yeah, you've put it well. Sony has e3 ads with playing rock paper scissors and swinging from monkey bars and such...but I think those analogies would work much better with the Wii than they do with the ps3. Nintendo is taking videogames to the next level and, damn, it's exciting.

Glad Nintendo's made a convert out of you, Rick.

Jin-X · « **Reply #15 on:** May 09, 2006, 10:41:06 AM »

Please expand on the classic controller. And yeah the name is still stupid, I didnt see it (no broadband) but I had my friends relaying the info till they started the dumbass jokes about Wii and Nintendogs.

Requiem · « **Reply #16 on:** May 09, 2006, 10:47:38 AM »

No doubt, Rick. The venue was amazing. Seeing Miyamoto was enough to make me giggle in excitement.

Anyway, I'm on the same boat as you.....PunchOut!! would of been a wise chose for a revival IP, same with many others. But you should know better than me that something was definitely held back. No capcom, no Namco? Yeah right....

There are plenty of Aces up Nintendo's sleves, and once they reveal them, they'll have the game industry bowing down with interest alone.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #17 on:** May 09, 2006, 10:51:11 AM »

It'll do well, but it was the tennis game at the end which truly convinced me.

The name still sucks, but I think, in the end, Nintendo wanted a name that sucks.

No SSB makes SB a mad fanboy...

Ian Sane · « **Reply #18 on:** May 09, 2006, 11:25:01 AM »

I'm not sold on the blue ocean strategy and I'm not sold on the controller. But I'm still quite impressed. I don't see the lineup as something that is necessarily going to bring non-gamers in but it looks like a lineup that gamers will be interested in. That's all I care about anyway. Even if the Wii was a "normal" console and these games were controlled by a normal controller, this lineup would get people talking. It's FAR better than the initial Cube E3 lineup. There's big games like Metroid and Mario and there's new ideas and there's this cool mature third party game. It's a solid bunch of games. Plus the third party support is encouraging. Square is on board and EA is actually making an original Madden game and all these third parties that weren't very Nintendo-friendly before are on board. There is concern about Capcom and Namco though, which seem to have disappeared despite being Cube supporters.

Though a lot of my enthusiasm is based on how much Sony is screwing up. The price is too high and the motion control is lame. MS is still a threat in my mind but to me I have no doubt that Sony will not be number one at the end of this gen. That's encouraging for Nintendo.

Plus the controller looks like it doesn't break gaming. I may not like it but it looks like I can work with it. There's still "gamer games" here. In fact I don't really see anything really non-gamer focused like Brain Age or Electroplankton.

archioverload · « **Reply #19 on:** May 09, 2006, 11:28:26 AM »

I think Wii has a REALLY good shot at being #1 in Japan...or at least 1 and 1A with PS3...

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #20 on:** May 09, 2006, 12:00:29 PM »

To be honest, I still hate the name Wii.

But everything else makes up for it a hundred times over.

mantidor · « **Reply #21 on:** May 09, 2006, 12:06:30 PM »

I dont take anything back, the remote is awesome, I knew it then and I know it now and the games will be fantastic, the name still sucks.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #22 on:** May 09, 2006, 12:06:50 PM »

I felt the conducting demo (you know it will be a game eventually), WarioWare, PilotWings and Wii sports are the non-gamer games. Nintendo will no doubt roll out more (including Nintendogs and Brain Age) later this year or next year.

willie1234 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 09, 2006, 12:08:18 PM »

funny - I was actually thinking there weren't many (any?) non-gamer games. I guess the sports games and maybe wario ware? But in general, these games seemed to have the same marketing target as the cube games did. Maybe we'll see cooking/conducting stuff come out later, maybe as side games.

IceCold · « **Reply #24 on:** May 09, 2006, 01:26:54 PM »

Well, E3 is for the gamers.. No doubt Nintendo will unveil more "Blue Ocean" games later on, but E3 was for us.

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