Author Topic: IGN Promises Rev Specs: Evening 3/29/06 (Read 96471 times)

Artimus · « **Reply #300 on:** April 05, 2006, 08:12:37 AM »

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It is funny, some of my favorite games of all time were not considered graphically impressive, they just accomplished what needed to be done. These games include games like Super Mario Sunshine, SM64, Zelda: Wind Waker, Kingdom Hearts I and II, and of course the many games I enjoy for SNES and NES.

Both SM64 and WW are considered very graphically impressive... (SM64 less so now, but at the time it was)

WesDawg · « **Reply #301 on:** April 05, 2006, 08:13:43 AM »

Sorry if I came off sounding... upset in that earlier post, but I think its a bit ludicrous to take these IGN specs and say, "Look at the GC and XBox. The GC was supposedly weaker, and yet their graphics were about the same." The GC and the XBox were speced about the same CPUwise. The XBox had more RAM and a HardDrive. The Cube had much faster RAM from what I remember. In the end, they were about equal. Any comments about which was more powerful were pure Microsoft PR.

These Rev specs and the 360 are nowhere close to each other though. If you think that its gonna play 360 games in low resolution, you're deluding yourself.

And that's why I don't think they're real specs. They're some dev unit specs that someone stupid leaked. Maybe someone not even in development, but just some guy they threw an old dev kit to when a new one was released by Nintendo. I doubt we know what the real Rev's specs are until the console is released and someone opens it up to look inside.

Artimus · « **Reply #302 on:** April 05, 2006, 09:38:20 AM »

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Sorry if I came off sounding... upset in that earlier post, but I think its a bit ludicrous to take these IGN specs and say, "Look at the GC and XBox. The GC was supposedly weaker, and yet their graphics were about the same." The GC and the XBox were speced about the same CPUwise. The XBox had more RAM and a HardDrive. The Cube had much faster RAM from what I remember. In the end, they were about equal. Any comments about which was more powerful were pure Microsoft PR.

These Rev specs and the 360 are nowhere close to each other though. If you think that its gonna play 360 games in low resolution, you're deluding yourself.

And that's why I don't think they're real specs. They're some dev unit specs that someone stupid leaked. Maybe someone not even in development, but just some guy they threw an old dev kit to when a new one was released by Nintendo. I doubt we know what the real Rev's specs are until the console is released and someone opens it up to look inside.

The XBOX's CPU was 733MHz and the GCN's was 485MHz and something. Those numbers are NOT "about the same." It evened out because of architecture, but the actual numbers weren't the same. And the XBOX is powerful. Not a ton, but it is the most powerful of the three systems.

You also underestimate Matt's contacts. These are not based on ONE person who doesn't work with the system. They're based on numbers from several sources, actual developers.

capamerica · « **Reply #303 on:** April 05, 2006, 09:57:09 AM »

Okay first off compairing Xbox Mhz to GameCube Mhz is like compairing Apples to Oranges.

The Xbox 733Mhz Chip was a modified Intel Pentium 3 chip, The GameCube 485MHz chip on the other hand was a modified IBM G3 chip. Just like when your compairing PC to Macs you have to do the same thing when compairing the Xbox to the GameCube. The G3 chips were Double the speed of a Intel P3 chip so to get the correct number to compair a G3 chip to a Intel P3 chip you have to multiply it by 2.

So in correct terms the GameCube's small 485MHz chip was equal close to a 970Mhz Pentium 3. Which acttually kicks the Xbox's 733Mhz chips butt.

edit: Opps said Pentium 4 insted of Pentium 3 =P

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #304 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:04:43 AM »

Ostriches to Staplers.

Deguello · « **Reply #305 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:18:22 AM »

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They're based on numbers from several sources, actual developers.

O RLY? Who? IGN has been burned before by unnamed sources for their rumors.

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And the XBOX is powerful. Not a ton, but it is the most powerful of the three systems.

You know it's funny people keep saying that because MS had ads saying that too. and then it kept getting repeated because HEY their numbers are higher that those other guys' numbers. But last time I checked, the actual game this generation that pushed the most polygons with the most effects at 60 fps was Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike, followed by Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader. Seems to me there has been a mislabel. This isn't opinion. This is fact. These are the two most technically advanced games this generation.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #306 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:19:35 AM »

Ostriches and Staplers.

Strell · « **Reply #307 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:22:54 AM »

I...I...I believe you have...my stapler?

Artimus · « **Reply #308 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:45:04 AM »

I'll never understand why some people just can't accept obvious reality when all the actual facts agree with it.

Magik · « **Reply #309 on:** April 05, 2006, 02:50:28 PM »

Do you guys actually think IGN will reveal the developers that gave this information and risk getting them in trouble? A fine or at worst, Nintendo dropping them?

BiLdItUp1 · « **Reply #310 on:** April 05, 2006, 03:03:54 PM »

CapAmerica and the rest of you who are spewing Apple's PR on the G3, please stop. The comments are irrelevant and outdated, as all three consoles are now based, in some way, on PowerPC architecture.

It is useless to talk about this stuff right now. E3 is in two months, by then, we should have our info, unless Nintendo goes completely mental. In any case, I don't give a crap about specs anymre, I just wanna have a good time. I'm outa here.

OverHeat · « **Reply #311 on:** April 05, 2006, 03:04:19 PM »

I wonder how much of the 360 and PS3's processing power will be used for the intensive high rez textures... I wonder, if you only were to own a regular TV, if all the system's graphics will look similar...
I wonder, if you own a Hi-Def set, how /bad/ Rev games will look?
Guess we will all just have to wait and see, huh?

zakkiel · « **Reply #312 on:** April 05, 2006, 03:44:40 PM »

who knows. Maybe Nintendo is deliebrately spreading rumors of extremely low specs so they can announce better ones and beat the expectations game. Politicians do it all the time, and I can certainly see Reggie doing it. Either way, I'm waiting for E3, except to say that if the rumored specs are real, I'm going to be very disappointed.

OverHeat · « **Reply #313 on:** April 05, 2006, 04:31:15 PM »

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who knows.

Exactly.

MaryJane · « **Reply #314 on:** April 05, 2006, 04:52:42 PM »

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Originally posted by: BiLdItUp1
E3 is in two months, by then, we should have our info, unless Nintendo goes completely mental. In any case, I don't give a crap about specs anymre, I just wanna have a good time. I'm outa here.

E3 is next month isn't it? January, February, March, April, The Month we've all been waiting for, June, July, The month I was born in 22yrs ago, The month school starts, October, November, The month where all you think about is christmas and new years.

Oh I just can't wait for E3(insert Lion King music).

Guitar Smasher · « **Reply #315 on:** April 05, 2006, 07:15:38 PM »

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who knows. Maybe Nintendo is deliebrately spreading rumors of extremely low specs so they can announce better ones and beat the expectations game.

Yeah, and screw the developpers? Nice try, though.

Nile Boogie · « **Reply #316 on:** April 05, 2006, 07:45:29 PM »

"Fear is the path to the darkside. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you."

This madness must stop! Does anyone here know just how many _pu's The Nintendo Concept has? Really? Are you sure? Some people are saying CPU/GPU/PPU. 6-weeks or 3 pay checks or 2 baths or 1 date from now, the truth will be told. "Always in motion the future is."

And remember "there are other specs".

jasonditz · « **Reply #317 on:** April 05, 2006, 07:49:06 PM »

If so powerful you have become... why leave?

Rhoq · « **Reply #318 on:** April 06, 2006, 05:07:03 AM »

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I wonder, if you only were to own a regular TV, if all the system's graphics will look similar...I wonder, if you own a Hi-Def set, how /bad/ Rev games will look? Guess we will all just have to wait and see, huh?

The Revolution will look the same on a High Definition TV as it would on a Standard Definition TV.

mantidor · « **Reply #319 on:** April 06, 2006, 05:29:54 AM »

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I'll never understand why some people just can't accept obvious reality when all the actual facts agree with it.

Thats the thing, there are no facts, a fact would be a screenshot or video footage, all we have is numbers that dont mean anything by themselves, numbers that we arent even sure about because they arent official.

thejeek · « **Reply #320 on:** April 06, 2006, 06:05:32 AM »

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Thats the thing, there are no facts, a fact would be a screenshot or video footage, all we have is numbers that dont mean anything by themselves, numbers that we arent even sure about because they arent official.

Absolutely - I don't see why something leaked on IGN is being treated as the gospel truth here. How many different sets of leaked specs have we seen so far, three? four? more? If we simply treated the most recently encountered numbers as verified fact we'd have believed some really weird stuff over the last couple of years...

Kairon · « **Reply #321 on:** April 06, 2006, 07:11:02 AM »

Are you implying that IGN is irreputable?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Artimus · « **Reply #322 on:** April 06, 2006, 07:22:52 AM »

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Thats the thing, there are no facts, a fact would be a screenshot or video footage, all we have is numbers that dont mean anything by themselves, numbers that we arent even sure about because they arent official.

Absolutely - I don't see why something leaked on IGN is being treated as the gospel truth here. How many different sets of leaked specs have we seen so far, three? four? more? If we simply treated the most recently encountered numbers as verified fact we'd have believed some really weird stuff over the last couple of years...

Show me the 'three or four' spec sheets the have reported, please. Links only.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #323 on:** April 06, 2006, 07:30:43 AM »

mantidor: A screenshot says even less. How do you know it's running at a playable framerate? How do you know it utilizes the system's full power?

thejeek · « **Reply #324 on:** April 06, 2006, 07:30:59 AM »

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Show me the 'three or four' spec sheets the have reported, please. Links only.

Three different reported sets of specs, with provenance about as reliable as the specs currently under debate, picked at random from the first page of Google results:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5344.html
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9485
http://www.vgescape.com/features/83/nintendo-revolution-specs

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Author Topic: IGN Promises Rev Specs: Evening 3/29/06 (Read 96471 times)