Author Topic: IGN Promises Rev Specs: Evening 3/29/06 (Read 96308 times)

Strell · « **Reply #175 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:00:34 PM »

This sh*t is still going on?

Wait til E3 people.

Damn.

trip1eX · « **Reply #176 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:39:57 PM »

Eh the bottom line is that Nintendo is going the DS route with their console. Like it or not the best looking games won't be on the Revolution. We can cry about it all we want, but that's the way it's going to be.

Personally I can live with it. The new controller intrigues me more than the better graphics. I really think the controller will be put to even better use in traditional games than the DS touchscreen.

IceCold · « **Reply #177 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:50:24 PM »

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What is next gen? I think it involves the whole package, not just hardware specs. The controller is truly next-gen (moreso than any other controller in the past).

The DS is a "next gen" handheld because it combines innovation with functionality.

The DS was both, let's admit that. The system is *much* more powerful than the GBA was, its predecessor, while also adding in the extra screen that it has to deal with.

Even though the jump from the GBA to the DS is more than from the Cube to the Revolution, the difference in visuals between, say, the PS3 and the Revolution will be MUCH less noticeable than the difference between the PSP and the DS.

Plateau.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #178 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:04:41 PM »

Spartan Total Warrior had a multitude of enemies on the cube

Nephilim · « **Reply #179 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:57:26 PM »

"Nonsense. There are many script-AI algorithms that take more CPU than others without implementing real AI. Pathfinding, for example. Pikmin tend to get stuck on simple obstacles. Raph Koster said that 90% of the CPU load on Everquest servers is just simple pathfinding for the monsters. Especially if you want the AI to dynamically assess a situation and use the terrain to its advantage you'll have to use CPU power for that. Or you could try marking everything in the level with helper entities but the player will exploit that."

I do think CPU power has something to do with the AI
you just have to look at the AI triggers in Condemned for 360 compared to F.E.A.R for PC
Condemned you walk parst a trigger 90% of the time, activating them to lunge/shot or wait a few secs to lunge/shot
while FEAR is pretty complex but yet simple, but they react to sound from footsteps, shots, they dont just shot you, they can stalk you and call squad members
same engine and made , world of difference in AI
then again, wouldnt suprise me if sega asked them to dumb it down, to keep it up with there high level quality control

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #180 on:** March 31, 2006, 05:24:32 PM »

Argh I think a previous poster had it right, wait until E3! Nintendo has never fell in line with the competition's specs yet they and other developers manage to get alot out of their systems. I don't doubt Rev will appear less "pretty" graphically than the competition, but I do not believe that gap will that huge on a standard TV. It is obvious from Nintendo's statements that they still believe upgraded hardware is a basic need for a next generation system, but they want to try something new too.

jasonditz · « **Reply #181 on:** March 31, 2006, 05:29:30 PM »

Geez, games like Hitman or Manhunt are doing that this generation without much problem.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #182 on:** March 31, 2006, 06:29:47 PM »

well I though Elder Scolls Oblivion looked fantastic and so does Condemned Criminal Origins, neitehr of those games look liek they are possible on Xbox, but 360 they look cool. I garuntee there will be more fantastic looking games.

I am not saying Rev will look worse then RE 4, thats stupid, but I am saying re 4 isnt that much greater than a lot of games on Xbox. I just woudl like my system to be the best visualy possible, every gen Nintendo has had pretty much the most powerful system available or have been very close to the copetition, but now they are soudning liek they are going to be very weak. and better than re4 still doesnt impress me if its supposed to be Next Gen, the dieah of Next Gen has always been the visuals get better, adn as great as RE 4 and Spartan and MEtroid Prime and Quake and Doom all look this gen they still have lots of roiom for improvement. I see that so far 360 has made some leaps over this gen, its just that the games suck so nonone cares about how pretty they look.

Talon · « **Reply #183 on:** March 31, 2006, 06:42:16 PM »

This is why Nintendo are reluctant to release the specs of the Rev because on paper they seem vastly inferior to that of the X360 and PS3. But in reality specs only paint part of the picture and hopefully the full picture will be unveiled at E3 so we can go "oooooh, aaaaah".

jasonditz · « **Reply #184 on:** March 31, 2006, 06:47:57 PM »

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better than re4 still doesnt impress me if its supposed to be Next Gen, the dieah of Next Gen has always been the visuals get better, adn as great as RE 4 and Spartan and MEtroid Prime and Quake and Doom all look this gen they still have lots of roiom for improvement.

I think that's where the "better" part of "better than re4" comes in.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #185 on:** March 31, 2006, 10:08:37 PM »

My guess is that Rev games will look quite a bit better than GC at launch, if developers are familiar with the archictecture they should have little to no trouble getting more out of the graphics than most new systems.

Galford · « **Reply #186 on:** April 01, 2006, 08:31:53 AM »

I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this.
I was hoping to see a 1Ghz+ CPU with a GPU of 6 Megs of 1T-Sram bolted to it.
WTF is Nintendo thinking???

I will use this news as an excuse to drink...

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #187 on:** April 01, 2006, 10:12:03 AM »

TRUST NO ONE

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

SCULLY DON'T OPEN THAT DOOOOOOOR

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #188 on:** April 01, 2006, 11:29:56 PM »

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How much does IGN pay this man?

I'm sure he has another job or two...and might live with his parents.

odifiend · « **Reply #189 on:** April 02, 2006, 06:38:36 AM »

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How much does IGN pay this man?

I'm sure he has another job or two...and might live with his parents.

He probably gets donations from sponsors too - He really pushes tech.

Artimus · « **Reply #190 on:** April 02, 2006, 08:07:23 AM »

I feel bad for Matt...he made this revelation for one reason: to get people to STOP talking like Rev graphics are going to be as good (these are his words). Why? Because Nintendo has been saying this for ages and still no one beleives them. He's probably THE most positive person on any site when it comes to the Rev and yet you guys get all angry.

This is all so tiresome.

jasonditz · « **Reply #191 on:** April 02, 2006, 08:25:12 AM »

Oh please, Matt posted it for one reason all right: because it's major news and he's working for a news site. I don't think anyone's mad at him for reporting the facts about the specs, he would've been remiss not to. I think the big problem is he's incredibly ignorant about what those specs mean. His comparison to the Xbox proves that more than anything (and the following day, he changed the article to remove some of his more moronic comparisons).

If he's ignorant about what the facts mean, he really ought to either

a) Just report the facts without his ignorant commentaries
or
b) Find someone who understands what those specs would mean and ask them.

To me, what he did is akin to the first person finding out the US was going to invade Afghanistan having no idea where Afghanistan was, and then in his news article he starts speculating about what it's going to mean having all those US troops in southern Africa.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #192 on:** April 02, 2006, 10:16:20 AM »

Nintendo has never said the graphics were not going to be good, just that the system wouldn't have the horsepower of PS3 or Xbox360. Personally I think they will look fine in comparison with the Xbox 360 and PS3 on a standard TV.

Guitar Smasher · « **Reply #193 on:** April 02, 2006, 12:21:59 PM »

Just repeating myself from a few days ago, but has any other site reported this?

MysticGohan · « **Reply #194 on:** April 02, 2006, 12:54:20 PM »

Nope, I somehow get the feeling that it was a blatant attempt for April Fools and we'll see come monday. Those specs hardly mean anything and doesn't represent the final hardware if it represent anything at all. It's all too supspicious.

Artimus · « **Reply #195 on:** April 02, 2006, 01:25:20 PM »

You people are stupid if you think this was a joke, nothing more, just plain stupid. Really really really stupid.

Jason, Matt is very well aware of the comparisons and their issues. He went into great detail about that issue on IGN Weekly this week. Perhaps the original article was a little poorly done, but nothing more.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #196 on:** April 02, 2006, 01:40:23 PM »

What if several "inside sources" got together before hand and decided to play a joke on Matt C. by independently cooborating these specs, which in turn would be playing a joke on all the internet surfing gamers. It would be the best prank cause it would put egg all over Matt's face and have the whole internet laughing at him. If it isn't a joke, well then it should have been.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #197 on:** April 02, 2006, 01:48:59 PM »

"Poorly done"?

It reflects poorly of HIM. HE has been the IGN Nintendo Console editor for over a half-decade. HE is supposedly the guy with the info and the deeper understanding of what the "info" means. Normally we'd expect a person of his position to deliver this news in a responsible manner -- c'mon, he's led us to believe he's able to do so over the past half-decade.

Why "correct" your article, then save the "detailed" explanations for a separate piece of writing? Did he really write what he meant? Why couldn't there be just one solid article?

It's to stir things up and increase site traffic.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #198 on:** April 02, 2006, 02:27:18 PM »

Exactly! We just don't know if this bares any truth at all. it's odd he was the only one to report on the specs, but again we'll see.

Nothing makes sense. Eh, Artimus...?

Kairon · « **Reply #199 on:** April 02, 2006, 02:36:23 PM »

I don't know why everyone seems lost. It makes perfect sense to me.

The only things that don't make sense are the naive "dream scenarios" people play around with in their heads.

~Carmine M. Red

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