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Offline alphonso58

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Next Gen. Dreamcast
« on: December 25, 2005, 03:55:27 PM »
Its just a matter of time be4 the Nintendo Revolution becames the next dreamcast. Nintendo will keep its handheld but soon or later drop the system ill make games like sega . Look at the control no one is goin 2 want it just because of that . This is just a story of a gaint fighting a losing war. PS3 and Xbox360 will live .but nt nintendo in this war of the Hardwear. Theres only room 4 two gaints look at the history of video gamin. Ok here comes the heat  frm the Fanboys

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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2005, 04:50:17 PM »
All I have to say to that is....   Sega lost money on 3 or 4 major console pushes in a row.

Nintendo has ALWAYS been profitable.

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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2005, 04:55:16 PM »
except Sega was in massive debt when the released teh DC and Nintendo still turns a profit, so your lagic fails.


Your post was obviously flame bait but I will actualy like to discuss this with you intelegintly if your capable of inteligent thought that is.

Heres a history lesson filed with FACTS.

Sega Enterprises released teh Sega Saturn to a market that was split by thier own system and thier competitors. When it launched they were fightining 3D0, Atari Jaguar/Jag CD, SNES, Neo Geo/CD, and the upcoming Playstation. Sega was VERY successful with thier Genesis and teh Sega CD was gaining support so Sega released the 32X to combat the existing competition especialy Nintendos own FX chipset. Then Sega announced the saturn woudl be available a year latter and 32X woudl be its little brother. This caused a split in thier user base, several peopel who were completley satisfied with thier Genesis (which lasted LONGER than Saturn) refused to guit on it and as a result either conitued to support what tehy had or get teh cd or 32x addons. SAturn LOST userbase cuz of this. Then a large portion of thier userbase was split between either getting a Saturn or the newcomer, playstation. At this time Sega underwent some management changes and was under misdirection and had some bad ideahs, first they chose to launch six whole months before announced and agreed to make it a LIMITED launch which left many stores (KB Included) feel leftout and angry (KB dropped ALL Sega suport form there on out as a result)

the E3 that Satrun was to launch Sony came out and in 1 word (299) they stole teh show AND Segas momentum. Sega had LOST already milions of dollars on Research and Development of the Sega CD, CDX, 32X, Saturn, and Never released Neptune (a genesis/32x/sega cd combo) and was acruing MASIVE debt durring thier three years of initial Saturn Suport, as a a result of lost market share, and profits Sega chose to ignore the Saturn and started workiong on the DC, they contracted with a major chip manufacurer to help make the system and then went iwth a totaly different chip set, causing a lawsuit and losing more millionsof dollars. When Saturn was officialy declared unprofitable they marked teh price down and stopped manufactoring units AND slashed teh rpcies to make room for DC. By this time Sega had lost already 3 Billions dollars. DC had a pretty good launhc BUT the announcment of PS2 using DVD as teh media caused MANY 3rd party companies to cancel projects for DC and swicth over to PS2 to take advantage of the bigger medium.


Sega lost a total of 4 billion dollars in three years and was on tehbrink of banruptcy. They chose to cease DC support to focus on going 3rd party to try and salavge thier company, in teh end they didnt make enough money and ended up merging with SAMMY a major Arcade manufactorur who also makes slot machines among other things. Sega Enterprises NO LONGER EXISTS!

Nintendo on the other hand has MADE more that 4 billion dollars in PROFIT in the time it took Sega to LOSE that much money. Sony continues to LOSE money AND had to BARROW money AND close factories and consolidate resopurces to stay alive, its unknown how long they can run on barrowed money or if they will also cease to exist, but as large as tehy are theres a better chnace theyc an survive than Sega did.


Nintendo has not EVER lost money nor operated in the negatives or with acrrued debt for teh lenght of time Sony or Sega has. Microsoft is  a different story because they make more in a month than the otehr three companies ina year (look them up on Yahoo financial or nasdaq.com and get a clue)

Nintendo Revolution COULD fail because of the controller or it could be the next standard, YOU don't knw the outcome and neither do I nor anybody else.

Nintendo DS and GBA is outselling Game Cube, Playstation 2, Xbox/Xbox 360 and PSP COMBINED. Plus the Software for all three of thier systems make hefty ammounts of profit for them in addition to thier Pokemon division which can more than carry the company if need be.

I seriously doubt you will be replying with any intelligent arguments or conceded the points where youare wrong but I will let you knwo that Nintendo has been around over a undred years longer than thier competitors and scontinues to turn profit while EVERY company who has fought nNintendo head on has either lost money or is no longer in existance. They are a mighty force to be reckoned with and will surely out last Sony and Microsoft in the years to come.



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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2005, 05:03:34 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2005, 05:08:55 PM »
i hope you werent talkng to me, cuz if so die!


no seriously WTF is wrong with peole cant you forgive some typing erros!>?!?!?!


get a life this is casual informal conversation.

NOt English class!!@!!!

Ah &$^ it form now on Imma use the same slang style of talk I woudl regularly use in a real life conversation

so f-off bee-ahches
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2005, 05:38:17 PM »
This thread is why some forums maintain a 3 month delay between registration and posting privledges.

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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2005, 05:55:31 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2005, 06:07:39 PM »
You sir, fail. And I will lol hard when you come back here a year from now saying how fun the Revolution is. As it's been said here before, Nintendo is the only one who is actually turning a profit, Sony or Microsoft are more likely to drop ot before Nintendo.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2005, 06:33:55 PM »
I had this supposedly Snickers-flavored cheesecake.  It wasn't like Snickers at all.
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2005, 06:44:35 PM »
Now, I've had a Snickers flavored cheesecake and it had Snickers crumbled on top, which added to the snicker-ness. On the other hand, I have never eaten a Snickers while playing the Dreamcast.

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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2005, 08:47:57 PM »
Snickers flavoured cheesecake is a bit of a scam, most of the appeal of snickers is the crunchy bits and they are absent from the Snickers Cheesecake. Still nice, but you can actually save a few cents if you buy a Snickers and a Cheesecake seperately.

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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2005, 09:03:46 PM »
no seriously WTF is wrong with peole cant you forgive some typing erros!>?!?!?!

Some? Yes. More spelling errors than words? No.

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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2005, 10:50:10 PM »
Don't worry animecyberrat. I still like you.

I mean, you make real, sensible paragraphs. I can overlook spelling mistakes and extensive internet lingo as long as the darn text is formatted to be readable.

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RE:Next Gen. Dreamcast
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2005, 03:39:25 AM »
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Originally posted by: alphonso58
Its just a matter of time before the Nintendo Revolution becomes the next dreamcast. Nintendo will keep its handheld but soon or later drop the system will make games like sega. Look at the controller, no one is going to want it just because of that. This is just a story of a gaint fighting a losing war. PS3 and Xbox360 will live, but not nintendo in this war of the Hardware. Theres only room for two gaints, look at the history of video gaming. Ok here comes the heat from the Fanboys
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There so much worng in there that I dont know were to start. "war of hardwear" The dreamcast was stronger than the ps2 and every system this gen was stronger than the ps2, but the ps2 won. So it not hardware that make winner. The controller is great give it a try before you bash, and the bananarang the final ps3 controller. "Look at the history of gaming" Let see the world of gaming near die when all the game maker just wanted money and forgot to make good games, then died, and nintendo came out with the revolutionary nes a save VG from hell. "only room for two gaints" No, there all has been diffent numbers of systen in every gen with one winner.  
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2005, 03:58:19 AM »
If someone told me that stevey was going to fix spelling errors in posts I would laugh my ass off to no end... yet here we are :so shocked there are not emoticons for that:
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2005, 05:46:41 AM »
Considering Dreamcast is my favorite console for this generation I'd be pretty happy if the REV was like the Dreamcast.  Hopefully Nintendo will be able to innovate even more than Sega did with the Dreamcast.  

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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2005, 06:46:44 AM »
I am trying to type decent but I sometimes get ina  rush, and I dont ever take the time to use spell check but I am starting to type better and will try and correct major mistakes before posting. so as not to offend people.


be thankful its internet people NOONE can read my handwritting, not even me half the time

But the points I was trying to make hopefully got threw to bonehead topic creator. Sega lost this round because of MASSIVE acrued debt and fans who lost fait, AND Playstation 2 had a much larger userbase going in and far more hype.

I will tell you what my knowledge of Sega FAR surpasses my knowledge of Nintendo (which is thoroughly extensive enough) and theres just nothing that makes the Revolution ANYTHING like the Dreamcast. Sega made HUGE mistakes and so far Nintendos mistakes regarding Rev are minimal, well Revmote could be a HUGE flop but its still potential for success we dont know yet.

But I will draw the picture this way, compare contrast for better clearification.

When Sega began working on DC they were in massive debt and losing image and customer base

Right now Nintendo is actualy gaining userbase and faith and is still maintianing a profit.

When Sega began work on DC they had spent millions of dollars desgining  asystem with a certain company and out of teh blue Sega of Japan who had a different chipset decided to switch over to the different system and caused a lawsuit costing not only millions of R&D dollars but legal fees, of wich they lost the fight and had to pay more massive ammounts of money to the party involved.

With Revolution Nintendo has built strong partnerships with thier chip makers AND has so far avoided legal battles by paying royalties where needed, (sony skimped on this and it cost them big bucks too)

Sega was following the dreamcast after three major failures, teh Sega CD, the Saturn and the 32X

Nintendo has had 1 major failure the Virtual Boy a,d the GC was nominaly succesful although not as good as they predicted it would be.

Sega caused a split in thier fanbase by confusing people with teh Nepturen Saturn debacle and many people felt they LIED to them too many times and would not buy a nother sega system ever, this ment many people were unwilling to even consider DC at first, myself included despite my loyalty to SEGA.

Dreamcast had serious 3rd party problems, they had Namco Capcom and a hadnfull of others making games but the major players like Ubisoft, EA, konami, and Activision had all pretty much ignored the system.

SO FAR Ubisfot, Namco, Activision, EA, Capcom, Konami, and many others have already pledge support of the system and are singing nothing but praises.

Dreamcast was using a form of CD that was superior to regular cd but smaller than DVD, which thier major competitors were all using.

Nintendo is going to be using a DVD standard that is pretty much on par with at least Microsofts system so wont be a major disadvantage this time around.

Sega was a dieng company fighint a losing battle.

nintendo is a wealthy company with a huge fanbase and a lot going for them.

I honestly think Revolution will be the number 1 console but its gonna take awhile to get there.

Sega even has a chance tomake a comeback if they wanted to, their fanbase has been growing, they now make huge profits instead of suffering losses and their catelog of games continues to grow and inprove yearly and if they chose to implement a backwards compatible system similar to Rev they have the same ammount of games going as far back as Nintendo does and could easily compete if they chose to.












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RE: Next Gen. Dreamcast
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2005, 07:44:32 AM »
What's with all this off-topic spelling and grammar talk? Let's get back to talking about cheesecake and candybars.

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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2005, 08:33:37 AM »
You know, I hate nuts, but I Luuuurve Snickers.

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RE: Next Gen. Dreamcast
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2005, 09:30:26 AM »
I like milky ways. I think I've had a milky way cheesecake, but it might have just been icecream.
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2005, 10:43:13 AM »
You know what made me mad? They had the Mars bar (which at one time I suppose was the flagship candy bar for the Mars Candy Co.) and they changed it to Snickers with Almonds. How degrading is that? You go from the flagship candy to just a variant of another candy bar.


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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2005, 04:50:00 PM »
wait did I miss something? when did we go from talking about the great SEGA to candybars?

Um well if I rememebr correctly wasn't there a game for teh Sega Genesis that you were supposed to collect candy bars and soda pop? I can't rememeber for sure but it seams to me tehre was cuz I think peopel made abig deal at the time, it may have been SNES also but I am pretty sure there was.


Wait a second Little Nemo used candy as his weapon maybe thats what i was thining of...

damn memory why must you fail me in these matters!

And Super mario World had Chocolate Island and wasnt tehre a cheese cake bridge or something? have to dig out my SMW cart and take alook.  
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2005, 06:28:01 PM »
I believe it was called cheese bridge.

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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2005, 06:34:07 PM »
anyone  see the movie trolll...the food was poisoned so the kid pissed on it

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092115/

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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2005, 08:56:15 PM »
Curly Wurly. Get it at Superstore. You won't be disappointed.

Raw marzipan

Lindt white chocolate

Anyway, yeah.. SEGA...

As acrat said, the respective situations of SEGA and Nintendo are night and day... I just want to see some games!
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