Topic: Next Gen. Dreamcast

[animecyberrat]

Shenmue and TJ and E had low sales on Xbox, but most of thier other stuff has sold really good, and bseides Sonic and Super Monkey bal lthey dont HAVE multi console stuff, every thing is system exclusive. Sonioc sells better on GC and only 3 sonic games were released for Xbox.  But Virtue Quest and Billy Hacter and Samurai Jack all sold rathe rpoorly for GC also. So far only SOnic and Monkey ball sell good there.  Also Sega Sports stoped GC support early on. Panzer Dragoon Orta sold good at first but got lost in the mix when Halo came out.


And yeah I do think a lot of it is because Sega fans dont want to support the two companies responsible for killig NIntenod, but when we have discusions about why most chose X-box what they SAY is that its cuz Xbox is more liek DC than any other system, and I agre to certain extent, especialy the controlers have some similarities, plus DC was  i]the online system before Xbox.


So far Sega looks liek they are giving 360 a ton of support too, mostly cuz thats where they make money.  

[Ceric]

Virtue quest has been released?  You know this time around was notorious for releases getting sucked in the wash but old/bad games staying around forever.

[animecyberrat]

I wanted that game prety badly too but cant find it anywhere. I heard it wasnt as good as it sounds but still I wanted it.  

[Infernal Monkey]

Eh, Billy Hatcher sold better than the vast majority of big name Sega exclusives for Xbox.

[BlkPaladin]

Well the few Sega fans I know went the Xbox route because of the announced games when they first went multi-platform. What I noticed is he didn't buy the Sega games when they came out That might of happened. One of the reasons why Sega's game may of sold better on Nintendo's platforms is that Nintendo fans even some of those back then have a bigger mind when it comes to these things and we like our classic gaming.

[animecyberrat]

Well that and Halo came out of no where for most people and sorta drowned out a lot of the other stuff.  

[The Omen]

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I don't buy that Sega fans migrated to the Xbox. And the sales back me up. I believe that all multiplatform Sega games have done best on GameCube, also. [Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.]

That has more to do with Ninty fans buying Sega games than Sega fans coming over to Nintendo.

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Well the few Sega fans I know went the Xbox route because of the announced games when they first went multi-platform. What I noticed is he didn't buy the Sega games when they came out That might of happened. One of the reasons why Sega's game may of sold better on Nintendo's platforms is that Nintendo fans even some of those back then have a bigger mind when it comes to these things and we like our classic gaming.

Exactly.

[animecyberrat]

http://boards.sega.com/sega/viewtopic.php?t=56318


heres  apage with a list of SEGA games sold this as of 2005, has all major systems, DC excluded and it looks pretty interesting.


I cant tell if its JUST for 2005 or if its entire lifespan but I will keep looking.

[Renny]

Nice find. They do seem to have better sales, overall, with the GameCube versus the PS2. But that said, there are some criminally undersold games on each system. 6,843,779 per 28 titles (244,421:1) on the Cube and 6,890,662 per 44 titles (156,606:1) on the PS2

And Xbox sales are complete scheisse across the board. If Sega 'fans' really did go to Xbox, just to ignore the games, I don't think Sega ever had fans (or they became extremely resentful). 3,516,972 per 35 titles (100,485:1).

[animecyberrat]

well Sega doesnt have fans per say, they do in a sense but there arent many left, Its thier agems thaty have fans, tehres Sonic fans who dont nescasilry care about Sega, and theres Panzer Dragoon fans who dont care about Sonic, and VF fans who care nothing of Super Monkey ball, but over all Sega is just a good game company who seams to get lost in the mix. They keep making totaly awsome games but dont compete well against bigger companies anymore.

And I dont weally think the hardcore Sega fans all went to xbox i just thikn they prefer xbox to win over Nintendo, at least tahts how tehy always proclaim it, cuz they keep bicthing how GC is where SOnic is at so yeah they are forced to buy GC. Since SOnic was missing from Xbox for a long time.

But I am starting to see alot of Support for Rev over at Sega forums latley so things could be stirring up. Sadly too many hard core Sega fans stuck to DC adn only buy games for it and boycot all the newer systems so that could have an affect also. Considering Dc still gets games released for it every so often.  

[Renny]

That's the first post of yours that I've read all the way through. Please keep it up.

But yeah, I guess they never had the same kind of 'die-hard' following as Nintendo. Really though, fans of Sega/selective Sega games and Nintendo fans are kindred spirits. Sega are a damned good developer and could really show off the Rev. They could be the big third party that gives it a good early start. [Still dreaming of a Panzer Dragoon for the Rev.]

[animecyberrat]

ist SEGAS own damn afult, they split the fan  base when they ahd Genesis, 32X, Sega Cd Game Gear Sega Nomad AND Saturn all on market the same time. People lost faith in Sega and just stuck to thier favorites, genesis fans and fans of Genesis games didnt like Saturn too much, so they went with Seg Cd 32X or jumped ship. But I totaly think Sega is still one of the best developers around and I wish they could sell more games.  

[Gamebasher]

SEGA is definitely among the very best (in my opinion the second best of all), but they had trouble with stupid people in their previous management, which lead to the exit from the hardware market. I have always despised such idiots, who can make such blunders and have us pay with the death of a beloved console. Some people say "let them learn, and get wiser", I say: "not in my backyard! Not on this planet!" I have had it with stupid people who make huge mistakes, and let other people pay for it, and I truly hope that the bastards who were responsible for alienating the core fanbase with SEGA consoles, have been fired, never again to be seen in the videogameindustry! Somebody should put a tag on them, which would make sure they would be banned automatically from ever entering the industry again!! The vacuum left over from the DC was one that was horrible to live through, with the only other next-gen offering then being the hated ps2 console with its dark, evil colour and wrist-twisting joypad design. So those responsible for the near-death of SEGA should definitely PAY!  

Strangely the XBOX 360 reminds me in some way about the DC, at least in the way of the joypads and the white color. Could this be what a next-generation Dreamcast would have looked like had SEGA been designing it?  

[Ceric]

... Also coming out earlier then the others.  Being online capable.  Running Windows underneath.  hmm...

[animecyberrat]

EDIT. Ok I took out all the stuff nobody cares about. sorry for that.

[animecyberrat]

Ok so if Nintendo and Sega decide to reach some kind of agreement on the Virtual Console does anyone think they migth also tweak it to play Dream Cast games or would Sega be better off saving thatf eature for hier next console should they ever make a new one.