Topic: June 2006?!

[Spak-Spang]

Though Square has known about it for awhile, I don't see them able to get a RPG at launch...unless it is a remake of another RPG.  

[ThePerm]

if  they released it  shortly  aftyer  e3...then the  buzz wouldnt  be dead  by  winter.

i  cant wait to see  the fps games...the whoe  reason  i havnt bought  an fps  is because  the dual  analog  for  fps is a  step  back  from the  button  layout  on  n64

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: ThePerm
if  they released it  shortly  aftyer  e3...then the  buzz wouldnt  be dead  by  winter.

i  cant wait to see  the fps games...the whoe  reason  i havnt bought  an fps  is because  the dual  analog  for  fps is a  step  back  from the  button  layout  on  n64

Perm! We may be the only two people in the world to prefer the N64 button layout over the dual analog system...but it's nice to know I'm not alone!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Don'tHate742]

I think both are fun, but I do prefer GoldenEye as a game over any FPS to date.

You guys are forgetting that Camelot has already comfirmed their REV title will be avaible at launch some time ago. It was also confirmed that it's going to be an RPG. Personally, I'd take Camelot over Square any day.

I'd imagine this game is Golden Sun. Honestly, how do you think Camelot reacted when they first saw the NRC...."This would be perfect for GOLDEN SUN!" And it really would be. Lifting a rock could be as simple as moving your hand forward, pressing a button, and lifting your hand upward. Pushing would be even easier.

Anyway, that's not the point. The point is that a killer RPG will be present at launch.

So now we have:
:::MP3 (FPS)
:::Camelot (RPG)
:::SSBM: Online (fighter)
:::Mario (platformer)

That's four of the most essential genres in gaming, and with Online present at launch, it even demonstrates how Nintendo's online gaming feature will work (also how it works apart from the Virtual Console).

Add that to a "most likely" list that includes:
:::WaveRace (Racer, hasn't shown up in two forms on the Gamecube, so REV launch seems imminent.)
:::EA Sports (We already have confirmation that EA will be working on the REV, the question is can they get the titles out in time?)
:::WarioWare (Non-gamer, Something like warioware or warioware itself is crucial for the REV to grasp the non-gamers out there. Plus it doesn't hurt that it is the most ideal game to show off the features of the REV. A demo could be packed-in at launch as well.)

That list as a launch list would be sufficient but not spectactular. Then again, those games mentioned are almost all developed by Nintendo or Nintendo second parties.

I can imagine an NDA, or rather the last few pieces of the REV puzzle, restricting companies such as Capcom from wanting to reveal any details about upcoming games. I'm sure they could say that they are developing something if they wanted to, but how enormous would the surprise be if  soon after the REV fully unviels,  Capcom blows us away with an RE: REV that uses all the capabilities of the system?

I'm not saying Capcom is holding something back, but rather that it isn't far-fetched to say that one company maybe waiting for that opportune time. So add a company to that list; which ever seems the most plausible to you.

[Stimutacs Addict]

i think pilotwings is still possible. It would be a blast, too; I imagine some of the challanges could be played solely with the single hand controller while others might use both.

but if Don'tHate's lineup is accurate then we dont have anything to worry about

[ThePerm]

i had  a  great time when  i  slipped  in  goldeneye and  owned everybody. Those  people  had all  moved on  to  halo...but im  so  good at  goldeneye. I  love shooting games, i play them  alot on the pc,  but not  so  much on  consoles.  This bridges the gap in a good way.  I think rev  will get some  key  shooting games and it could  create  a  tide. Theo  only genre  that  rev  isnt so  good  for is fighting games...but  unlike the gamecube controller which  was  best suited for  platform games(which  ironically it lacked)  this controller makes alot o f genre's  work BETTER.

i  dont even have  to  say this. We've ll figured it out  by  now.

[couchmonkey]

Spak-Spang:
Metroid Prime 3 isn't doable because the last game took two years to develop.  Can Retro pump out a third game in 1.5 years while adding next-gen graphics and a new style of control?

Mario 128 isn't doable because Nintendo has been working on it for 3 years and last time they interviewed Miyamoto he said he still wasn't sure what kind of game it is.  To me, that says at least 2 more months of experimenting before they start thinking about level design, enemy AI, etc.  On top of that it was six years between the release of Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine.

Sorry, I hate to be such a pessimist...I do think it's possible for Nintendo to release both of those games by mid-2006, but I'm skeptical for the reasons I just gave.  If Nintendo does get them out by that time, I fear the quality will be below most people's expectations.

On the optimistic side, I do believe some third parties will have their games ready sooner than we think.  Maybe not by June, but I think Square and Camelot could have their games done in 2006.

[Bill Aurion]

Can Retro pump out a third game in 1.5 years while adding next-gen graphics and a new style of control?

Retro added Rev controls to Metroid Prime 2 in TWO WEEKS...

[ThePerm]

same  development  kit.....i just imagine  they  just  have to change some parameters for  the  memory usage..but  i  bet they  will  more likely start from scratch  and port some character models.

[zakkiel]

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Originally posted by: ThePerm

i  dont even have  to  say this. We've ll figured it out  by  now.

You'd think that, wouldn't you?

[King of Twitch]

:::MP3 (FPS)
:::Camelot (RPG)
:::SSBM: Online (fighter)
:::Mario (platformer)

Which one of these will get the delay hammer? I'd say Camelot RPG will be done at launch, SSBM within a month, MP3 delayed 6 months, Mario delayed a year.  

[Mario]

June 2006 + worldwide release = unlikely. If it does release that early there's no way it can be launched simultaniously in every territory without being a rush job, and Nintnedo has stated they wont do that. September / October worldwide launch is still my estimate.

[Nile Boogie]

Quoted from Perrin Kaplin, NOA, when asked about Revolution launching after PlayStaion 3:
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"In terms of launch dates, I think it will become clear as we enter 2006 when Revolution and PS3 will launch. So, to assume one is before or after another may not make sense." IGN
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Hmmm...sounds rather intresting to me. Maybe it's that PS3 won't launch until late 06/ early 07, as some have predicted. I hope Nintendo can get some software, great software ready. Sony may up their release date, mostly from fear of X360 and the forthcoming Coup by the Revolution.  June sounds more likey...  

[Spak-Spang]

I think Nintendo knew that Sony was running its mouth when it said it would launch early '06.  Nintendo knows that Sony couldn't deliver.  However, the investors believed Sony and were afraid for Nintendo's future which is why Iwata told investors they MIGHT be last to market, but it would not be by a huge difference.

Although it is almost definate that Sony has pushed its launch up to combat Microsoft, nobody is sure how early Sony can really launch.  Some even predict Sony can't before holiday season and be ready.

Nintendo isn't that pressured.  They know the earlier the launch the better, however, I think Nintendo has learned from botched up launch lineups, that they need a stronger launch more than an earlier launch.  

Nintendo will launch as early as possible and still have a sold lineup of 1st party and 3rd party games.  I think several people have demostrated how Nintendo could make a June deadline for 1st party games, it is the 3rd party games that have people questioning that launch.

[couchmonkey]

New info from Jim Merrick says the system launches will be within 14 weeks of each other.  This seems a lot more doable than a perfectly simultaneous launch, it gives Nintendo a few months to iron out the wrinkles as it launches in each territory.
GAF took the "within 14 weeks" comment to mean that the system is literally launching within 14 weeks - i.e. February.  I think that's pretty much out, but it does imply that Nintendo wants to launch in or before September in Japan.  Unless it's going to launch in January or February in other territories, which would be dumb.

Bill: Very true about the MP2 demo, maybe the controls won't be a problem, which I am happy to hear.  If Nintendo can make it that easy to convert "regular" controls to something like this, then maybe third parties will take more advantage of it.   However, it doesn't change the rest of the development time: what makes it so that they can spend less time on this game than Metroid Prime 2?

Edit: Spak-Spang, you're so right about Sony.  They're just trying to put the pressure on the Xbox 360 launch the same way they did with Dreamcast.  I believe PS3 will come out earlier than Sony had planned, but I don't think we're going to see it in North America for a long time yet.