Author Topic: Dongle not available in stores? (Read 22887 times)

Mario · « **on:** October 17, 2005, 06:39:00 PM »

http://ds.ign.com/articles/659/659017p1.html

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IGN: Why will the Wi-Fi USB adapter only be available through Nintendo.com and not retailers?

Beth Llewlyn:The feeling initially was that a lot of people were either going to have a wireless router at home or would have the ability to go to a McDonald's and have access in a number of ways, so we decided to make it initially available on Nintendo.com and just see how it goes.

This is absolute CRAP. Sorry Nintendo, but most people I know DON'T have these fancy wireless routers, and sure going to McDonalds is good and all but i'm going to want to play at home online by my computer (I treat my DS more as a home console, and GBA as the portable), and so are a lot of people, making the Dongle only available through online stores is going to seriously cripple the amount of people going online. That 90% online penetration number is being shot to sh*t.

UncleBob · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2005, 06:47:17 PM »

My comment from the "... in Wal-Mart" post where I pointed out this:

I... don't like it.

<Ian Rant Mode> Nintendo claims that they want to make it *easy* to go on-line with the DS and then they make us jump through hoops to get the USB adapter by ordering from their website? It'll probably turn into something like the GCN's Component Cables... No one will know how to get the USB adapter, so no one will order it, so Nintendo will just assume that no one wants on-line play and cancel all plans for the Revolution to be online... </Ian>

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2005, 06:48:20 PM »

"Well, there wasn't much interest in the GameCube broadband adaptor for some reason! Imagine if we shipped that to retailers, they'd still be sitting around, it would of been a disaster! Let's do the same with the DS internet thing okay!"

"Hmm, what? Sorry, I wasn't listening to you, I was listening to my iPod. Hot potato, hot potato, potato, potato, potato. Man, these guys rock!"

"What the hell, I'm going to McDonalds. I go there every single day because I am very large, waaaait, idea forming!"

Mario · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2005, 06:49:26 PM »

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Originally posted by: UncleBob
My comment from the "... in Wal-Mart" post where I pointed out this:

I... don't like it.

<Ian Rant Mode> Nintendo claims that they want to make it *easy* to go on-line with the DS and then they make us jump through hoops to get the USB adapter by ordering from their website? It'll probably turn into something like the GCN's Component Cables... No one will know how to get the USB adapter, so no one will order it, so Nintendo will just assume that no one wants on-line play and cancel all plans for the Revolution to be online... </Ian>

Oh whoops, I didn't see it in that thread, but uh.. I guess it deserves its own one because its such a big deal!

mantidor · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2005, 06:56:33 PM »

Indeed! I wouldve never know about this if it wasnt for this thread. This is the kind of thing that pulls out the Ian in all of us, Nintendo, why are you so f!king insane!?

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:06:51 PM »

They better atleast include a somewhat large and very attractive poster/flyer that advertises the USB wifi dongle so that people a least know that it exist, what it does, how much it cost, and where to find it. An online rebate code(free download?) wouldn't hurt either.

IceCold · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:07:31 PM »

What the HELL is this? Honestly, HOW could they make a mistake like this? How? Wireless routers are most certainly not that popular, and I would have thought that Nintendo would know this. I had such high hopes for the Wi-Fi connection; it could have been Sliced Bread #2. But first they overprice the USB dongle, then they do this. Now I'm doubting everything else they have said to promote the connection; with these oversights I don't know what to think about it.

Renny · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:12:01 PM »

This confirms my conspiracy theory.

/dons tin foil hat (The bunny ears pick up good waves, while blocking evil ones from Perrin. And, err, Beth in this case.)

UncleBob · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:26:13 PM »

Although I usually dislike online petitions and I know that most others here do as well, I say we start a petition not so much to "get Nintendo to sell the adapter at retail" but a petition to tell Nintendo that we feel they screwed this one up....

Or not...

Mario · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:35:57 PM »

COMIC BOOK TIME!

There is still a month for Nintendo to change their mind.

thepoga · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:37:19 PM »

"IGN: Why will the Wi-Fi USB adapter only be available through Nintendo.com and not retailers?

Beth Llewlyn:The feeling initially was that a lot of people were either going to have a wireless router at home or would have the ability to go to a McDonald's and have access in a number of ways, so we decided to make it initially available on Nintendo.com and just see how it goes."

It's still really stupid that they aren't releasing it from the very beginning in retail. But at least, they're probably going to eventually release it in stores.

mantidor · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:45:20 PM »

But thats the problem Im seeing, if the USB adaptor doesnt sell well through Nintendo.com, theyll say that is pointless to make it available to the stores, which could be very wrong, and low sales happened not because people didnt need the adaptor but because they didnt know about it or thought it was too complicated to get it. wasnt this what happened with the component cables? if they were available at a store, I would have gotten them years ago, but that wasnt the case and I never got one. This kills what they are saying about making online as available and free of hurdles as possible.

IceCold · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2005, 07:48:15 PM »

No no, DEFENESTRATION time....

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2005, 08:17:43 PM »

I feel bad about pissing on just about everybody else here, but I like this and I'm secretly hoping it's a sign of Nintendo Wifi dying a horrible death. I still haven't changed my mind on the infeasibility, pointlessness or drawbacks of Nintendo going online.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2005, 08:29:07 PM »

Well unless Nintendo's first party games start to suffer in regards to single player in favour of online, I don't see the problem. But then, I don't care that much, I'm stuck on 56k.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2005, 08:37:25 PM »

"Well unless Nintendo's first party games start to suffer in regards to single player in favour of online, I don't see the problem."

Hello, Metroid Prime Hunters. Why am I not playing you this month, I wonder?

Chris1 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2005, 08:49:35 PM »

I wonde how much it'll cost, Im guessing around 40-$50, and how much do wirelss routers run for these days? Not much more than that I would think, so maybe people will just buy a router instead, since the dongle probably won't be much cheaper

TMW · « **Reply #17 on:** October 17, 2005, 08:50:56 PM »

Because you're the only person who sees this as a bad thing, Paladin.

Artimus · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:00:42 PM »

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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"Well unless Nintendo's first party games start to suffer in regards to single player in favour of online, I don't see the problem."

Hello, Metroid Prime Hunters. Why am I not playing you this month, I wonder?

If there was a lack of quality games I'd feel for you.

You're being a selfish moron. I cannot WAIT for Wi-Fi. Why? I can play Mario Kart with real people! Single palyer is fine but after four MK games there's no reason for me to buy another single player game. But with Wi-Fi that changes.

Single player isn't all a game is about. Not if multiplayer is a large part of it. How would Goldeneye have been if it came out months earlier with no multiplayer? Perfect Dark? The fact is that Wi-Fi isn't simple an add-on to a single player game. If they delay...say...Castlevania for 6 months so you can go on Wi-Fi and trade custom pics, then yes, that would be stupid. But taking a game that is designed at least half with multiplayer as the focus (MP:H has never been playable in single-player form at E3(s) remember) being delayed a few months to actually make it real multiplayer is hardly bad. The fall is jam packed full of games. There is no shortage and there is no advantage to it coming out now. Later, however, there are huge advantages both for players and Nintendo. But ONE person in the world doesn't care about online gaming so therefore it is a bad idea.

PLUS, he said 'suffer'. MP:H single player will not suffer because of wi-fi. Nothing is being removed, only added. You're the one making up random things.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:14:53 PM »

"PLUS, he said 'suffer'. MP:H single player will not suffer because of wi-fi. Nothing is being removed, only added. You're the one making up random things."

He also said "single player games", not just "single player". You can't tell me delaying a game doesn't constitute some suffering if, like me, you don't benefit from the reason behind the delay.

Yes, I am a selfish moron and I don't deny it. I'm just saying why this news makes me happy, is all. I'm not about to actively campaign for killing off Nintendo Wifi because apparently some other people want it... but hey, if it's happening anyway why shouldn't I express my satisfaction?

And Metroid Prime Hunters has been my single most anticipated DS game since it was first shown.

"But ONE person in the world doesn't care about online gaming so therefore it is a bad idea."

It's not a bad idea... but tell me, if online gaming dies off and that one person gets the games he wants earlier because of it, should he deny himself happiness? I feel for you guys but I'm happy about this, that's all. I'm not going to pretend I'm suffering with you.

Sorry, I'll stop gloating now.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:26:27 PM »

"after four MK games there's no reason for me to buy another single player game."

I'M DEFINITELY buying many more single-player games cuz I don't want to be distracted by others while in my personalized, immersive home theater setting.

Artimus · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:36:46 PM »

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"after four MK games there's no reason for me to buy another single player game."

I'M DEFINITELY buying many more single-player games cuz I don't want to be distracted by others while in my personalized, immersive home theater setting.

I meant another Mario Kart game. As in I wouldn't buy the game without Wi-Fi because it'd be nothing new single-player wise.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:40:03 PM »

"I meant another Mario Kart game. As in I wouldn't buy the game without Wi-Fi because it'd be nothing new single-player wise."

I would, because it would mean new maps, characters and improvements single-player wise. See, if they get rid of online entirely, they HAVE to improve the single-player somehow to make it worth it. You're doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of doing. Just because you don't care about a new Mario Kart with only single-player improvements doesn't mean it's a bad idea.

"I'm not sure how you're gloating. No one is suffering. Wi-Fi isn't going to die off anytime soon. Sorry, it's here to stay."

No, but there's a serious dent in it right now, which means the balance is in favor of single-player, which makes me happy.

"You've said before you'd stop Wi-Fi if you could."

I have? I don't remember, but that was pretty crappy of me if true and I apologize.

Artimus · « **Reply #23 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:40:57 PM »

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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"PLUS, he said 'suffer'. MP:H single player will not suffer because of wi-fi. Nothing is being removed, only added. You're the one making up random things."

He also said "single player games", not just "single player". You can't tell me delaying a game doesn't constitute some suffering if, like me, you don't benefit from the reason behind the delay.

Yes, I am a selfish moron and I don't deny it. I'm just saying why this news makes me happy, is all. I'm not about to actively campaign for killing off Nintendo Wifi because apparently some other people want it... but hey, if it's happening anyway why shouldn't I express my satisfaction?

And Metroid Prime Hunters has been my single most anticipated DS game since it was first shown.

"But ONE person in the world doesn't care about online gaming so therefore it is a bad idea."

It's not a bad idea... but tell me, if online gaming dies off and that one person gets the games he wants earlier because of it, should he deny himself happiness? I feel for you guys but I'm happy about this, that's all. I'm not going to pretend I'm suffering with you.

Sorry, I'll stop gloating now.

I'm not sure how you're gloating. No one is suffering. Wi-Fi isn't going to die off anytime soon. Sorry, it's here to stay.

You've said before you'd stop Wi-Fi if you could. That's like me wishing they'd cancel the entire single player mode in MP:H. I don't get you. We all have anticipated games, they all get delayed (see: Zelda) occasionally. There is still plenty to play and you are still getting the game. Basically you're wishing Nintendo stops this so you can play one particular game right now. MP:H was designed as a multiplayer game, not as a single player game. Nintendo had multiplayer in it from the start, that's ALL they've shown! It sounds more like the game itself isn't what you want it to be.

Artimus · « **Reply #24 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:43:00 PM »

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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"I meant another Mario Kart game. As in I wouldn't buy the game without Wi-Fi because it'd be nothing new single-player wise."

I would, because it would mean new maps, characters and improvements single-player wise. See, if they get rid of online entirely, they HAVE to improve the single-player somehow to make it worth it. You're doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of doing. Just because you don't care about a new Mario Kart with only single-player improvements doesn't mean it's a bad idea.

Not at all. I said I wouldn't buy the game, I didn't say there shouldn't be single player. I'm glad there's both, very glad. I'll play single player. But because of Wi-Fi I'll buy the game, and WE CAN BOTH enjoy it. See? I want as many people to benefit as possible. You say "SCREW EVERYONE ELSE THIS IS MY WORLD!"

At least Ian has some sense of Nintendo's welfare when he complains about them, versus straight forward egotistical garbage.

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