Author Topic: Dongle not available in stores? (Read 22896 times)

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:43:20 PM »

I've NEEEEEVEEEER touched MP2's multiplayer mode =D =O D=

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:52:16 PM »

"Not at all. I said I wouldn't buy the game, I didn't say there shouldn't be single player. I'm glad there's both, very glad. I'll play single player. But because of Wi-Fi I'll buy the game, and WE CAN BOTH enjoy it. See? I want as many people to benefit as possible. You say "SCREW EVERYONE ELSE THIS IS MY WORLD!""

Okay now you're being ridiculous. Do you want me to be miserable over something I'm not miserable about? What in the hell do you want from me? I may be selfish but at least I don't indulge in pretentious crap. I'm saying "too bad for everyone else but this makes me happy". If they fixed this somehow I would say "oh well that sucks for me but I'm glad everyone else is happy".

"I thought that the last one ended with "To Each His Own"?"

Apparently that's not good enough anymore and people want it to be "To Each His Own Unless I Don't Like This So You Better Not Like It Either".

IceCold · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2005, 09:57:46 PM »

Beth Llewlyn: Well, you can still use the DS anywhere there's a Wi-Fi connection. You just would have to set it up through a laptop and use the USB port adapter

Wait, what?? What? Am I reading this wrong or even with a Wi-Fi connection present, you STILL have to use the USB? I think that it is a misquote or she said something wrong, and I don't think this is true. Please tell me it's not true...

And this thread is becoming another one of those "Paladin vs Online" threads...I thought that the last one ended with "To Each His Own"?

Renny · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2005, 10:07:05 PM »

No, she's referring to places that offer pay-for-access. These places have a capture page that forces you to login to your account. Thus you need something capable of HTML. Login with your laptop, bridge through the laptop to your DS. Don't know how these places will really feel about you feeding your connection into the free ether....

Mario · « **Reply #29 on:** October 17, 2005, 10:15:47 PM »

There's simply no way of spinning this into a good thing, the only thing I can think of why Nintendo woudln't want them on store shelves is so it looks like you don't need to buy anything to go online, but the reaons on the contrary far outweight that.

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Originally posted by: IceCold
Beth Llewlyn: Well, you can still use the DS anywhere there's a Wi-Fi connection. You just would have to set it up through a laptop and use the USB port adapter

Wait, what?? What? Am I reading this wrong or even with a Wi-Fi connection present, you STILL have to use the USB? I think that it is a misquote or she said something wrong, but I don't think this is true. Please tell me it's not true...

No idea, a misquote is likely, but I assume she meant in places that aren't McDonalds that aren't free, where they normally let you hook up a laptop you can then use the Dongle to not have to go through the hassle of all that network stuff.

EDIT: Renny covered that better than me ^.

After all this talking about how easy it will be to use the dongle it's silly to restrict its purchase only to people who know enough about the internet and DS to order it online. Online Wifi is a part of Nintendo now, Nintendo heavily emphasises multiplayer experiences, and Mario Kart is mainly a multiplayer game, online just expands that.

joeposh · « **Reply #30 on:** October 17, 2005, 11:20:03 PM »

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Originally posted by: IceCold
Beth Llewlyn: Well, you can still use the DS anywhere there's a Wi-Fi connection. You just would have to set it up through a laptop and use the USB port adapter

Wait, what?? What? Am I reading this wrong or even with a Wi-Fi connection present, you STILL have to use the USB? I think that it is a misquote or she said something wrong, and I don't think this is true. Please tell me it's not true...

I think she's just rather ignorant about how Wi-Fi works in most places. She's refering to a pay for access model, which would require a laptop, but places like Starbucks (which she mistakingly referenced as pay for access) have unrestriced free access, so you should be able to play there without any difficulty.

As for the USB adapter being sold exclusively online... this is a HORRIBLE move. The only people who will buy it are hardcore Nintendo loyalists who have been cued into it's existance by interviews such as this, while others will pay crazy prices on E-bay for them and the average consumer will remain in the dark about it's existance (much like the GC BB adaptor and Component cable). Then Nintendo will in turn declare a lack of interest in the product and cease to market it... cutting into the success of their Wi-Fi intiative.

We need to organize a movement to e-mail big sites like IGN and Gamespot over this... as well as contacting Nintendo to let them know our stance on the issue, so hopefully it can be changed. I personally have a wireless router but I want to see the wi-fi intiative really flourish and thus feel that this device should be readily avaliable to the average consumer.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #31 on:** October 17, 2005, 11:41:49 PM »

"I think she's just rather ignorant about how Wi-Fi works in most places. She's refering to a pay for access model, which would require a laptop, but places like Starbucks (which she mistakingly referenced as pay for access) have unrestriced free access, so you should be able to play there without any difficulty."

Huh, I thought you had to pay for Starbucks, at least in my area.

UncleBob · « **Reply #32 on:** October 18, 2005, 04:32:45 AM »

There are a few who objected to the addition of Wi-Fi to Metroid Prime: Hunters... and, after the poor reviews MPH got at E3, I personally tend to wonder if the Wi-Fi isn't being added because Nintendo felt the game wasn't good enough on it's own...

(Personally, I don't care much either way, it likely won't be a game I'll be picking up...)

joeposh · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2005, 04:44:52 AM »

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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"I think she's just rather ignorant about how Wi-Fi works in most places. She's refering to a pay for access model, which would require a laptop, but places like Starbucks (which she mistakingly referenced as pay for access) have unrestriced free access, so you should be able to play there without any difficulty."

Huh, I thought you had to pay for Starbucks, at least in my area.

Really? It's free here... but that may have something to do with the fact that it's a college town. I guess it varies by location.

Pale · « **Reply #34 on:** October 18, 2005, 06:19:53 AM »

It makes so much sense to put a basic browser in the the DS it isn't even funny. Most of those break-through sites at pay places are designed to be viewable on PDAs, they sure as hell would be functional on the ds too.

Even if it were just on a GBA cart, you could still authorize your system, then restart it and launch the DS game.

Artimus · « **Reply #35 on:** October 18, 2005, 06:47:45 AM »

Give them time, this time next year we might have all these things we're talking about.

darknight06 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 18, 2005, 07:00:48 AM »

Question, what was your initial plan to go online before this dongle was announced? I don't know about anyone else, but I was gonna throw down for a router. And with this news I still will. No big deal folks, lets keep it moving. I doubt it'd be that difficult to setup anyway.

UncleBob · « **Reply #37 on:** October 18, 2005, 07:09:54 AM »

Personally, my initial plan was unknown... I was waiting for more concrete details as to how the entire setup was going to work...

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #38 on:** October 18, 2005, 07:10:33 AM »

too bad we should have had a browser like 6 months ago... though i've heard that browsing on the psp isn't always blissful because memory is limited (or somethin)

anyways how hard is it going to be for Nintendo to include a little slip of paper in the DS boxes that gives customers the details of the WiFi Connection? They throw at least 3 or 4 adverts in the boxes anyways, what if the first thing you see when you look to the left of the game is the big blue Nintendo WiFi Connection logo. inside the advert they would mention how to connect to play your favorite games online and include a picture of the USB dongle. right below the pic they could bold the words "ORDER USB ADAPTER ONLINE AT NINTENDO.com"

that was sooo frickin tough

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #39 on:** October 18, 2005, 07:30:39 AM »

Eh, if I need it I'll buy it online. It'd probably be better if they sold it in stores, definitely, but this doesn't bother me personally.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #40 on:** October 18, 2005, 07:36:50 AM »

UncleBob's Ian rant was pretty accurate to my feelings on this one. Except for that "cancel the Rev online" bit. I already went into detail on the Talkback thread so I won't get further into here.

It's nice to see that almost everyone here agrees that having the dongle online only is dumb. Now I don't feel like some pessimist that sees what no one else seems to.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #41 on:** October 18, 2005, 10:56:29 AM »

Yeah, this is pretty much a universally bad idea.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #42 on:** October 18, 2005, 12:32:31 PM »

I bought my component cables from Play-Asia, who imported them from Japan. Took 2 months to arrive.

That's how stupidly bad the progressive-scan situation became.

It can happen to Wi-Fi too. it's teh FUTURE1 OF gamINg!

31 Flavas · « **Reply #43 on:** October 18, 2005, 02:40:15 PM »

Why didn't you just order componet cables from Nintendo of America? Do you not live in America?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2005, 03:03:08 PM »

When I placed my order it with Play-Asia it was about November 2004. Since Summer 2004, Nintendo's (NOA) store had the notice "component cables on back order. new stock expected March 2005".

And guess what? The component cables were in stock again in March, then sold out begining of summer 2005, and it's been on back order since, with more expected in "January 2006."

Frankly, that's unnacceptable.

31 Flavas · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2005, 03:25:04 PM »

I dunno when I ordered my component cables, I just called Nintendo out of the blue one day and told them I needed 2 component cables (1 for me one for my friend). Couple of days later they came in the mail.

Djunknown · « **Reply #46 on:** October 18, 2005, 04:50:39 PM »

[on tangent] You got lucky. I waited this year for when NOA would have those cables back in stock, only to have a vague restocking date. Since I wanted them bad enough, I ordered through Lik-Sang. I had to pay a pretty penny with shipping, as well as paying for using a Western Union wire, and I got in two weeks. It was worth the wait, but I'm still a bit sore for jumping hoops so to speak.[/off tangent]

I just don't know what to say. It just boggles the mind. If MS did this with Xbox Live when it launched, it would probably be 1 year behind than it is now. EA may have not given in to MS's demands, and SquareEnix wouldn't have touch them with a 10 foot pole.

All I can hope for is that this is a temporary issue. If you remember, 'Cube to GBA cables were available online only. But when they wanted to push connectivity, they put them in stores. When I first saw it at a Gamestop where I was just browsing, no intention of buying anything, I bought it right on the spot, thinking it was some rare opportunity. Granted connectivity flopped, but the fact that no proverbial hoops had to be jumped, you could get your connectivity with simple ease...

May sound reasoning and rational thought prevail...

Artimus · « **Reply #47 on:** October 18, 2005, 05:18:50 PM »

It'd be half-OK if they had them in stock online all the time.

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #48 on:** October 18, 2005, 05:34:48 PM »

This is a bad Idea, basically you're eliminating the best way for most people to get online with the DS easily, I hope they change their mind on this one fast.

I was planning on getting the Dongle when it was released but now its just too much hassle.

Also what does ths mean for places with free Wi-fi acess like some colleges?

IceCold · « **Reply #49 on:** October 18, 2005, 05:56:52 PM »

The DS should be able to work in those areas free.

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Author Topic: Dongle not available in stores? (Read 22896 times)