Topic: Lost

[vudu]

Random question:  What ever happened to real Locke's dad?

[that Baby guy]

Sawyer killed him.

Essentially, for some reason, Ben looked into everything about the Losties via "what's his face" who was at the flame.  Mikhov, or something like that.  He learned Locke could walk upon reaching the island, and saw him as a threat.  From there, they learned where Anthony Cooper was, in Tallahasse, and actually kidnapped him and brought him to the island.

Once Ben and Locke met up in the "Others'" camp, it was revealed that Locke might be the leader.  Apparently, Ben brought Locke's father to the island to force Locke to kill him, saying Locke's daddy issues were a rock in his path to being fearless leader.  It was basically a ploy by Ben to remain in power, as Ben hoped Locke wouldn't go through with killing him.  Richard basically told Locke this, and gave him a folder with information on Sawyer, including his real name, James Ford, and the reason why he goes by Sawyer:  His family was killed by a con man using the name Sawyer.  That man's real name was Anthony Cooper, and just happened to be Locke's father.

Since Locke had reservations about killing his father, Locke took his father to the Black Rock and tied him up to in a room on the boat, then went back to the Losties' camp to find Sawyer.  He told Sawyer he had Ben tied up on the Black Rock, and he needed Sawyer to kill him.  When they arrived, Locke locked Sawyer in the room with Anthony Cooper, and after a little bit of talking, Sawyer figured out who he was and killed him.  Locke took the body back to the Others, and then resumed the process of becoming their leader.

[vudu]

Thanks for that--I remember him tied up in the Other's camp but couldn't recall what happened after that.

[gbuell]

Something awesome I realized recently: way back in Season 3, the Others were building a runway on Hydra Island, presumably under orders from Jacob. Then in Season 5, the Ajira flight landed on this runway. BRILLIANT.

[vudu]

I really need to go back and re-watch the early seasons.  There's so many of these "minor details" that I simply can't remember because I haven't thought about them in years.

[ThePerm]

yeah, Losts complexities are reaching the point that its hard to take it all in at once. Its as if someone wrote a novel during season 1, and they have just been turning the chapters into episodes

[that Baby guy]

Nah, really, the early seasons haven't mattered that much.  It's as though they mostly threw them out.  We've seen slight references, but most of the stuff that mattered in early seasons has been a non-issue, along with stuff like "Pregnancies and the island," which is likely a major plot point that's not going to be dealt with.  It's been a little disappointing because Lost raised so many mysteries as plot points, for instance "The Numbers," what with Hurley and the computer, and we'll likely never arrive at how the Dharma Initiative arrived at them, or chose to broadcast them in the first place, even though those numbers brought Hurley to the island a first time.

[ThePerm]

well i think the answer to what jacob and unlock are will answer everything

[RABicle]

The Numbers were just a fun little coincidence thing.

[ShyGuy]

Do people in Australia like lost because of Claire?

[gbuell]

They've dealt with the numbers quite a bit in Season 6. I am rewatching the early seasons now and there's more continuity than you might think. The four toed statue appears all the way back in season 2. And I bet they will address the pregnancy issues before all is said and done. They brought that issue up just last season, and the writers have been figuring out the overall story since at least season 4.

[Caterkiller]

I love this show! Finally caught up and can now contribute to the thread. I don't know how anyone could not like this show if that sat through an entire season. Lost = One Piece, Heroes = Bleach, it's true you know.

[Plugabugz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWRh1yskgh0

[gbuell]

Michael Emerson can make even "mmm... cake" sound scary.

[ThePerm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBdPHIue3s0&feature=related

[Kytim89]

A local radio station where Ilive was doing deleted scenes from the Lost TV show and it revealed that the Black Smoke monster was actually Snoop Dog who was smoking his bong on the island. 

[vudu]

Great--Kytim89 found General Chat. 

[ShyGuy]

Oh man... Minor Spoilers for next week's episode:

ABC Released promo pics for the Richard Alpert episode and it appears to be a 1800s flashback with The original MIB, Jacob holding the knife Sayid stabbed Locke with and who I am guessing is the Smoke Monster's crazy mother

[Kytim89]

Great--Kytim89 found General Chat. 

I sure get around do I not? I am spreading like a virus and pretty sonn I will be all over this forum. You wont be able to go any where without reading my insightful comments.

[ShyGuy]

Lost! Richard! No Answers!

Jacob doesn't seem to be a complete force for good. Neither does the Man in Black. Richard got screwed for his entire life. Hugo is the most righteous character on the show. Can the smoke monster deliver on his promises?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Lost! Richard! No Answers!

Jacob doesn't seem to be a complete force for good. Neither does the Man in Black. Richard got screwed for his entire life. Hugo is the most righteous character on the show. Can the smoke monster deliver on his promises?

I noticed the statue was whole when the ship crashed, was the island in a time loop at the time? Anyway the interaction between Jacob and the Man in Black is really fascinating, neither character seems pure good or pure evil

[that Baby guy]

I liked how they saw the ship in the day time back at the end of season five, but they only approached it in this episode during a storm at night.  Sure, sure, it's semantics, but honestly I'm a bit surprised they didn't catch that.

[ShyGuy]

I think it was a time bubble issue. Like how the doctor in season 4 washed up dead on the shore before he was murdered on the freighter.

[that Baby guy]

Sure, sure. I know there's thousands of ways to explain it and such.  Like I said, I was just being nitpicky.

[vudu]

I liked how they saw the ship in the day time back at the end of season five, but they only approached it in this episode during a storm at night.  Sure, sure, it's semantics, but honestly I'm a bit surprised they didn't catch that.

Why do you think it's the same ship?  From what we know Jacob's been bringing ships to the island for eons.  There's nothing to indicate it's the same ship except  they both looked to be from roughly the same time period; but for all we know that scene in season 5 could have taken place hundreds of years before Richard's ship crashed.