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Re: Lost
« Reply #250 on: February 17, 2010, 07:12:18 PM »
perhaps Hugo got the numbers in another way...or maybe like you said he won a different lottery, either way he has been in contact with Jacob. The one thing that interests me was Locke's line talking to his GF "i'm tired of imagining what my life would be like if i weren't paralyzed" or something to that extant..because the whole show could be in somebodies imagination(actually either way it is)
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« Reply #251 on: February 17, 2010, 07:16:36 PM »
I think the numbers are simply an organizational system Jacob used to keep track of his "candidates"... I feel like the last episode has pretty much answered that for us.
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« Reply #252 on: February 17, 2010, 08:09:36 PM »
I think the numbers are simply an organizational system Jacob used to keep track of his "candidates"... I feel like the last episode has pretty much answered that for us.
I'm not so sure about that.  If they simply were the order in which Jacob met them then Sawyer would be a much smaller number than Locke and Hugo would be the highest number.
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« Reply #253 on: February 17, 2010, 09:45:47 PM »
I never suggested they're chronological. Who knows what Jacob's filing scheme is. I think they're just ultimately arbitrary.
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Re: Lost
« Reply #254 on: February 17, 2010, 10:05:46 PM »
For more information on the numbers, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc

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« Reply #255 on: February 17, 2010, 10:23:09 PM »
I'm pretty sure that's not canon, ShyGuy, unfortunately.  A lot of the stuff in the ARGs, no matter who is involved, doesn't end up making the final cut, and often shows an idea of a pathway the show could go down.  There was a similar video showing Pierre Chang talking to "recruits" with Daniel Faraday's voice encouraging something off screen, as part of the event, but there wasn't an opportunity for this to happen with the way the season played out.  Given this, I'd say that's not really all so true.  That leads me to wonder how or why Dharma utilized those numbers so often, though, since it seems like Jacob is the one who came up with them.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #256 on: February 18, 2010, 03:27:47 PM »
Dartlon has mentioned the Valenzetti Equation on the podcast so I think that is canon. It may not be 100% like the video though.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #257 on: February 24, 2010, 01:07:51 AM »
BOOM LARWST!

Jack is a dad? Presumably not with Sara, but someone else. Claire is really really crazy. She seems worse than Rousseau ever was. I liked revisiting the caves. Jack has a freakout and the magic lighthouse. Too bad it looks like everyone at the temple is gonna get SMOKE MONSTERED

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Re: Lost
« Reply #258 on: February 24, 2010, 02:20:16 AM »
yeah, that was news to me about Jack's life.
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Re: Lost
« Reply #259 on: February 24, 2010, 09:39:39 AM »
Just out of curiosity, now I want to know who's name was written by 108 degree mark in the Lighthouse.  Did I miss it?

Also, feral Claire is scary.
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Re: Lost
« Reply #260 on: February 24, 2010, 10:25:19 AM »
Did I miss it?
You didn't miss it (or if you did, I did, too).  I wonder who's coming to the island?

I think the numbers are simply an organizational system Jacob used to keep track of his "candidates"... I feel like the last episode has pretty much answered that for us.
I'm not so sure about that.  If they simply were the order in which Jacob met them then Sawyer would be a much smaller number than Locke and Hugo would be the highest number.
Well, now we know.  :)
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Re: Lost
« Reply #261 on: February 24, 2010, 12:21:00 PM »
According to the screen caps, 108 was...

Wallace. Who?

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« Reply #262 on: February 24, 2010, 03:33:58 PM »
I was going to make a prediction that 108 = Desmond, but if that screencap is correct, then it could be someone we haven't even met yet.
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« Reply #263 on: February 24, 2010, 03:55:38 PM »
I don't think Claire is so much crazy as she is confused.  As far as we're aware, she suffered a concussion back when her house at the Barracks was attacked, and the aftermath of that showed she was really out of it for the next few hours or days, at least, which was when she left Aaron behind and followed Christian Sheppard.

It's very conceivable, especially considering the twists we saw with Rousseau, that Claire has minor amnesia, and cannot remember exactly what happened during that time, even forgetting what happened to Aaron.  Furthermore, from this perspective, Claire really isn't all that crazy.  She's been abducted by the others before, and it when the rest of the Lost crew left or time-traveled, it's not like the Others were friends.  Alone, she'd have no choice but to consider them enemies, and I can see how she would believe they took Aaron, as well, given they did want to take him in the first three seasons, anyways.

My real question is in regard to what Christian Sheppard and unLocke told her...  Did they say the Others took Aaron?  Were they both there at the same time?  Why would they lie to Claire?  Could it actually have been to protect her from them, since, as far as we can see, they do want her dead, and they're not exactly great people, still.

What's important to remember is this:  It seems the Man In Black, aka unLocke, aka the Smoke Monster is stuck either in his "pillar of smoke" form or as Locke, but Christian Sheppard actually appeared last season after we saw unLocke.  If we believe Ilanna, it means Christian Sheppard is a separate entity on the island.  My honest guess?  He exists as a balancing force of some sort. A referee, if you will.  Recall Christian Sheppard's main role has been to take people where they "need to be," in a sense.  In season one, he guided Jack to a fresh water source for the island's survivors.  In season four, he did take Claire to Jacob's Cabin, and in season five, he showed Sun and Frank Lapidus that the rest of the Losties were in 1977.  While it seems like he helps the Man In Black more often than Jacob, I believe he only does so because he'd deemed "The Others," and similar forces an unfair advantage in Jacob's favor, in regards to whatever game the two have been playing.

That's just the idea I've been formulating from what I've seen, and it explains why he's flat-out helped the Losties, while the smoke monster was generally a nuisance.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #264 on: February 24, 2010, 10:14:04 PM »
Claire is so confused that she made a creepy fake baby out of bones http://i50.tinypic.com/2rgnk9y.jpg Not convinced that she went evil from infection, she just may be stir crazy from being alone on the island for three years.
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Re: Lost
« Reply #265 on: March 03, 2010, 01:13:16 AM »
Holy Crap! Did you see? When he? And then they? Wow!

Sayid is an evil man on the side of good? Or did he simple kill the men who threatened him and his own? Either way their is blood on his hands. Plus, Dead is not dead. Carlton and Damon lied to us.

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« Reply #266 on: March 03, 2010, 11:46:07 AM »
The end of that last episode rocked my world.
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« Reply #267 on: March 09, 2010, 11:36:50 PM »
whats funny is that my mom watches it with me, but hasn't seen the show since first season, and its hilarious how the explanations sound.
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Re: Lost
« Reply #268 on: March 10, 2010, 01:18:07 AM »
Lost!

Ben is a good guy now! That makes me happy. There were rumors he was going to die this episode. Widmore brought a new sub to the island. I wonder if anyone else is on it. Eloise Hawking? Desmond? Penny? Taller Ghost Walt?

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« Reply #269 on: March 10, 2010, 01:52:35 PM »
So was Jacob trying to bring Widmore to the island with the lighthouse?  Or was he trying to keep him away by having Jack break it?
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Re: Lost
« Reply #270 on: March 10, 2010, 05:28:02 PM »
Jacob's actions and words all all half-truths or lies.  You can't decipher what he wants by observing what he says, but only by what happens...

Or by forcing Miles to read his old thoughts.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #271 on: March 11, 2010, 12:03:54 AM »
Miles is the best out of the freighter folk from season 4. Lapidus is good too, but Miles has moments of awesome. Faraday can be useful but was annoying at times and Charlotte really bugged me. Keamy and his crew were nasty evil and the the other people on the freighter all died too soon. RIP Minkowski.

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« Reply #272 on: March 11, 2010, 03:04:36 AM »
I really liked Faraday a lot, until they got to his character-centered episode last season, and then made him uncharacteristically headstrong and killed him off.  I think he was a bit of an optimist, which is why he wasn't straightforward about their reasons on the island, because he thought there was a way he could get everyone rescued.  The tragedy that his mother always knew she would kill him was really a horrifying, touching way for him to die, but again, his character, as it was portrayed right before his death really didn't fit how he acted anywhere before.

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« Reply #273 on: March 11, 2010, 09:58:43 PM »
Yeah, he seemed to lose common sense somewhere along the way.

My Faraday Lost Theory: Back in the 70's Faraday programmed the musical password on the computer in the underwater looking glass Dharma station that Charlie had to turn off.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #274 on: March 17, 2010, 01:47:37 AM »
Lost!

Chang and Ford are loose cannons! The mayor's office is going to tear me a new one! Back on the Island, Sayid is a Zombie, Claire is crazy, Smoke Locke is devious, and Sawyer doesn't give a crap.
Widmore seems to be in it for himself and I think he is gonna get killed hard. I bet I know what is behind the locked door in the Submarine. Desmond! Possibly Penny and little Charlie