Author Topic: For those that care...the full EGM interview with Shigy and Iwata (Read 15253 times)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #25 on:** August 08, 2005, 07:33:40 PM »

"The Link of the Capcom-developed "Oracle" games on the GBC has the same in-game sprite of the original 10 year old Link, but in the official artwork he more looks to be 16. Given that the original sprite was very "limited" and doesn't really convey an age, I'd say he's 16. This Link appears to be from the distant past of The Minish Cap, which is the distant past of the "Four Swords" games."

You got the history in really nicely but you made a small mistake here...The in-game sprite is that of Link's Awakening, but that's mainly due to Flagship using the same engine, and not a means of classifying age...Also, you really think Link looks 16 in the artwork?

Caterkiller · « **Reply #26 on:** August 08, 2005, 08:51:53 PM »

Link has always looked at least 16 or so in the artwork when it came to the 2D games, except in the origonal. But I remember watching Icons on G4 and reading some interview from who knows when, and I defenitly remember Miyamoto saying something about the origonal Zelda(as well as the others) having you take the role of a young boy who eventualy matures by the end.

Anyway I dont care much for that, but what I found most interesting in the interview was Miyamoto's top 3 games. I don't remember the 1st(even though my EGM is only one room away and I could easily check) but it was probably A Link to the Past, second was Super Mario World, last and what surprised me most was Star Fox 64. I had no idea he loved the game that much. With that being said I would have thought he wouldn't let Star Fox Assault out the door with out it being at least the same quality as Star Fox 64. Star Fox, was the only franchise of his that I can think of that took a huge step backwards in quality this generation.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #27 on:** August 08, 2005, 09:49:24 PM »

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You got the history in really nicely but you made a small mistake here...The in-game sprite is that of Link's Awakening, but that's mainly due to Flagship using the same engine, and not a means of classifying age...

Ah yes. I knew I was going to have to slip a mistake in there somewhere.

The Link sprite from Link's Awakening was roughly similar to the sprite in the original game (compared to Zelda II and LTTP), and then reused in the Oracle games. But that's all irrelevant because they were used due to hardware limitations.

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Also, you really think Link looks 16 in the artwork?

I had remembered the art style being generally based on the LTTP-ish art style, which it is, but looking at it, Link (and Zelda too) looks quite deliberately younger than other games with the similar art style.

So Link is most likely 10 years old in the Oracle games.

Also, I should probably list the Oracle games after Ocarina of Time, as they came out later.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #28 on:** August 08, 2005, 10:29:14 PM »

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Zelda has a green dude that whacks things with a sword, and does amazing stuffs and kills amazing things.

That's good enough for me.

They're probably gonna give Tingle a sword to play with in Twilight Princess, and then you're gonna be sorry you said that.

IceCold · « **Reply #29 on:** August 08, 2005, 11:42:16 PM »

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Also, you really think Link looks 16 in the artwork?

Hahahaha...You got a link for Link's picture, and then linked it under the word "Link," thereby creating a pun! Such brilliance!

EDIT: What the hell is it with quotes today?

Rancid Planet · « **Reply #30 on:** August 09, 2005, 12:07:09 AM »

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Zelda has a green dude that whacks things with a sword, and does amazing stuffs and kills amazing things.

That's good enough for me.

They're probably gonna give Tingle a sword to play with in Twilight Princess, and then you're gonna be sorry you said that.

In the new EGM it also says that there will be no Tingle in TP. I cannot begin to tell you how sad that makes me.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #31 on:** August 09, 2005, 12:31:06 AM »

Like I mentioned in some other thread, if Tingle came back like this

http://www.wingkong.net/newpics/lopan9.jpg

then I'd have no problem with it.

Strell · « **Reply #32 on:** August 09, 2005, 04:59:33 AM »

I think the King of All Cosmos needs to replace Tingle.

WE WERE VERY NAUGHTY! ... AND WE LIKED IT

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #33 on:** August 09, 2005, 06:03:39 AM »

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With that being said I would have thought he wouldn't let Star Fox Assault out the door with out it being at least the same quality as Star Fox 64. Star Fox, was the only franchise of his that I can think of that took a huge step backwards in quality this generation.

If it's any consolation, I thought the flight missions were vastly improved in Assault...And I'm sure Miyamoto will watch over the next game more closely...

stevey · « **Reply #34 on:** August 09, 2005, 06:05:57 AM »

"Just to try and clarify the different Links and their ages..."

You based most of it on the artwork but the artwork dosen't mean anything look at megaman for the nes artwork it look like a man but it a kid; and it goes loz->loz:la->loz gbc game->loz2 with the same link. lttp link just use the same art as the other because they didn't want to wasted money draw new art. and oot link 10-17->mm13->tp(son of the oot link)->ww10

"I was disturbed by the "too cute, I'd have to save him" bit. Obviously Shigy's mental concept of Link is closer to the Wind Waker version than I'd like."

I think it closer to ff than ww.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #35 on:** August 09, 2005, 11:26:57 AM »

and the later-revealed fact that you can't wield the Master Sword until you're at least 16.

That must've been fallen to revisionist history because both the LoZ and Windwaker Links can use the Master Sword though the Master Sword concept (as it exists today, as the only weapon that can defeat Ganon) probably didn't exist when the first LoZ was made, it was the "Magical Sword" back then.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #36 on:** August 09, 2005, 01:32:36 PM »

I always thought the "Magical Sword" was different from the "Master Sword". And, although cool, I never subscribed to the theory that the Master Sword is the only item in existence that could defeat Gannon. The Master Sword was just "a blade designed to repel evil" to me.

Plus, seeing as how the original Zelda game's defeat of Gannon is the only one that's currently holding, I'm thinking that the Magical Sword might be more powerful than the Master Sword.

As for the Wind Waker... I need to get back to playing that. I really suck at finishing games lately. -_-;;

stevey · « **Reply #37 on:** August 09, 2005, 01:40:24 PM »

"and the later-revealed fact that you can't wield the Master Sword until you're at least 16.

That must've been fallen to revisionist history because both the LoZ and Windwaker Links can use the Master Sword though the Master Sword concept (as it exists today, as the only weapon that can defeat Ganon) probably didn't exist when the first LoZ was made, it was the "Magical Sword" back then. "

never dose it say that in any zelda. The resone you sent in time to the future because that oot link was too weak to fight gannondolf and not of age.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #38 on:** August 09, 2005, 10:26:47 PM »

ruby: I tried to say that I assume that the Magical Sword obeys different rules than the Master Sword since the Master Sword idea didn't exist back then. Nonetheless, the ten year old Link from Windwaker definitely gets to use the Master Sword.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #39 on:** August 10, 2005, 06:03:27 AM »

I think they might have said something about Link being too young/weak to weild the Master Sword in The Ocarina of Time, but that wouldn't preclude some later Link from being strong enough to weild it without waiting until he's older.

Ultimately, I think Nintendo doesn't care about this stuff...I think the guys at Nintendo are more interested in recreating the feeling of The Legend of Zelda. That is, a young man/boy who starts out on this incredible adventure and rises from nobody to hero. The story is a nice way to frame that, and there are certain legendary elements (the Princess, the Triforce, and Ganon) that figure into most of the plots, but the series is more about adventuring and exploring than story.

That's something about videogames that I feel is being lost: this is not the same medium as television or movies, so why is it that so many game developers feel the path to making better games is to have complex plots and Hollywood voice actors? A good story is a nice bonus but it's not at the heart of the art of videogames.

Edit: typos.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #40 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:17:42 AM »

that's why im currently trying to find an RPG that has the same level of exploration as Skies of Arcadia. To me, finding new islands on the sea in skies of arcadia still surpasses The Wind Waker's dingy

vudu · « **Reply #41 on:** August 10, 2005, 09:05:51 AM »

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and the later-revealed fact that you can't wield the Master Sword until you're at least 16.

That must've been fallen to revisionist history because both the LoZ and Windwaker Links can use the Master Sword though the Master Sword concept (as it exists today, as the only weapon that can defeat Ganon) probably didn't exist when the first LoZ was made, it was the "Magical Sword" back then.

Actually, I believe the Silver Arrows are what kill Ganon in both the original game and LttP.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #42 on:** August 10, 2005, 09:35:30 AM »

In LttP it's the silver arrows but in LoZ it's the magical sword. Ah, whatever. Arguing inconsistencies in Zelda is like complaining about trees in a forest.

TMW · « **Reply #43 on:** August 10, 2005, 09:41:24 AM »

I seriously don't know why you people insist on arguing about LoZ.

Miyamoto obviously sees Link as a young boy...who can save a kingdom from a Evil Sorceror, but can't escape from a burning building.

?

Anyways. Whether he's 10 or 16, Link can still kick all of our asses, so lets just move on, shall we.

Gamebasher · « **Reply #44 on:** August 12, 2005, 07:33:43 AM »

They just confirmed Zelda for Revolution!

Zelda for Rev confirmed

I am already starting to drool!

MANTI5 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 12, 2005, 10:14:32 AM »

It's the silver arrows in LoZ that kill Ganon.

stevey · « **Reply #46 on:** August 12, 2005, 01:24:51 PM »

"That must've been fallen to revisionist history because both the LoZ and Windwaker Links can use the Master Sword though the Master Sword concept (as it exists today, as the only weapon that can defeat Ganon) probably didn't exist when the first LoZ was made, it was the "Magical Sword" back then."

there are more than one blades of evil bain.

Zelda for Rev confirmed "Which may surprise some people, so long as they have never played a Zelda game, studied Nintendo's prior record with their big name franchises or been outside their hermetically sealed germ-free bubble. "

what are they talkin about?

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 12, 2005, 02:16:55 PM »

they are saying that Zelda has been confirmed for Revolution as if nobody didn't already know it was coming or that it had already been confirmed at E3 during the press conference.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #48 on:** August 12, 2005, 03:47:44 PM »

It confirms that both Aonuma and Nakano (guy behind a bunch of the Twilight Princess art) are going to be involved in the next Zelda as well...Even the most seemingly useless information can yield a lot of interesting tidbits...

nickmitch · « **Reply #49 on:** August 12, 2005, 05:11:14 PM »

Wether or not it will have Tingle is the only question.

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Author Topic: For those that care...the full EGM interview with Shigy and Iwata (Read 15253 times)