Author Topic: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized (Read 374713 times)

Kairon · « **Reply #700 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:38:14 PM »

Is it too late to join the club?

Smoke39 · « **Reply #701 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:43:50 PM »

There is no club. Feel free to start one, though.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #702 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:43:56 PM »

That video looks AWESOME, its looks like a blast to play around inside the ship and I didn't really get to see enough of the Samus model to make an opinion though I really doubt you'll see the model much the whole game.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #703 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:48:16 PM »

Indeed. She still looks dumb, though. :b

Kairon · « **Reply #704 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:48:24 PM »

I didn't like how they let you "press buttons" when the buttons weren't there. Shouldn't they restrict the animation to only the times when it was appropriate, so that Samus doesn't look like a hibernation-sickness drunken slob? Or do they intend that the disconnect between intent and execution would immerse the player more fully in the "acclimatization?"

Smoke39 · « **Reply #705 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:51:18 PM »

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Shouldn't they restrict the animation to only the times when it was appropriate, so that Samus doesn't look like a hibernation-sickness drunken slob?"

No. If you suck at pressing buttons, that should be reflected in the game. Otherwise it won't feel like you're really in control.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #706 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:52:36 PM »

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Shouldn't they restrict the animation to only the times when it was appropriate, so that Samus doesn't look like a hibernation-sickness drunken slob?"

No. If you suck at pressing buttons, that should be reflected in the game. Otherwise it won't feel like you're really in control.

But this is coming from someone who loves Far Cry.

Stogi · « **Reply #707 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:55:48 PM »

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Well, I was never a big Metroid fan to begin with (that's why it's my younger bro who'll buy the game for his Wii, traditionally I've done ALL the game buying between us), so my hype was the fragile, frail sort of hype.

Well that's really sad to hear, especially since this game is right up your ally.

First of all, you already love Wii FPS's as proven by FarCry and the enjoyment you had with RedSteel. This is the first game that will actually get the controls right and set a new trend. Don't you want to be apart of that?

Second of all, it uses a new type of Wiimote/Nun-chuck interaction that has yet to be seen. Pulling and pushing levers, controlling your spaceship by hand, and using your grappling beam are sure to be only the tip of the ice-berg. Your all about "new" and "exciting" games; the type of games that may not be entirely gold, but have an element within them that makes it worth owning. This game has only been giving great impressions and seems to be made entirely of win. Why ignore it?

Third of all, it is Metriod. I know that's not really a reason, but let me explain. It is Metriod; one of the few games that have a interesting back-story/lore/worlds. The abilities given to Samus are entirely original (morphing into a ball is pure genius) and so are the enemies/bosses (which are quite possibly the coolest ever; play Super Metriod if you don't believe me). Also, the atmosphere of Metriod has always been amazing; RE can't touch it's sense of isolation. And finally, your a freaking bounty-hunter which is possibly the coolest profession (though I'm not talking about Dog; that dude sucks and so does his line of work). Does this not interest you?

Kairon · « **Reply #708 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:09:25 PM »

That's the thing ain't it? It's NOT an FPS. It's an FPA.

And I've played two Metroid Primes before. Don't try to tell me the game will be an all new unknown quantity, because I have a very good idea of the type of thing we'll be buying into. This isn't some brand new game, this is the third in a series of games that I never really fell in love with (though I was certainly able to sense a little of that Miyamoto magic in the first one's design). This is a shame too because Metroid Prime has a lot of point-and-click adventure puzzle solving elements to it ( a genre I lurve)... just without the 2D charm and humor. Either way, this is one of many cases where I'm using past experiences with the developer to inform my current opinions of them. (especially considering I haven't liked Retro's two earlier "real life" interpretations of Samus without her helmet/suit either.)

Don't worry, we have the first two Metroid Primes and like I said, we're getting the third. It's just that this time there's no fooling who's the real player here: it's going to my younger brother without passing through my hands first. The only difference now is that for the first time, we won't be in the same house for me to sit on the couch and simply live vicariously by watching him play through every moment... I'll have to stand on my own two feet for once when he finishes the game and hands it over to me for my "turn."

Stogi · « **Reply #709 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:40:11 PM »

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That's the thing ain't it? It's NOT an FPS. It's an FPA.

While that's true, you can't ignore the fact that it's faster in pace than it's predecessors. The new method of moving and aiming is huge. If you watch the gameplay videos, you will see Samus get ambushed by at least 6 enemies. If that's not proof of it leaning towards both genres, then I don't know what is.

Plus, I don't see that as a bad thing since "Adventure" genre is where it's at. I mean, you do play Zelda right?

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And I've played two Metroid Primes before. Don't try to tell me the game will be an all new unknown quantity, because I have a very good idea of the type of thing we'll be buying into. This isn't some brand new game, this is the third in a series of games that I never really fell in love with (though I was certainly able to sense a little of that Miyamoto magic in the first one's design).

You say this here, then discuss how Rockstar's Table Tennis is going to somehow be a lot better due to Wiimote integration. Why won't you give this game the chance you so blindly give other games? I'm not saying the Wiimote will better all games/genres, but it will better many as well as start entirely new ones. I mean, isn't that really the point?

Plus, isn't well-done Wiimote integration enough to peak interest? Isn't that enough to raises hopes about the future of Wii games? We all want to see progress, and isn't this it?

Kairon · « **Reply #710 on:** August 05, 2007, 03:49:33 PM »

*shock*

I.. I made that comment about Rockstar's Tebble Tennis in strictest half-jest sir!

mantidor · « **Reply #711 on:** August 05, 2007, 04:44:02 PM »

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How long will it take Kairon to learn that analyzing YouTube video for GRAFIKS is only asking for trouble?

well I did see the HD thing at ign, and everything looked amazing except her, it felt completely out of place as I said before.

Even the Brawl model looks better, and the game overall uses a more cartoony look, this is not only cartoony but badly done, which makes the contrast against the incredibly polished enviroments even bigger, this is not what you expect from Retro!

And I would have liked the armor to not appear out of nowhere also.

I don't care anymore, Nintendo won't fix it and they will stick with this horrible model, super metroid/prime suitless samus are the official for me and thats it.

Mashiro · « **Reply #712 on:** August 05, 2007, 04:55:13 PM »

TBH Samus' phazon energy charger suit or w/e looks not so great either from a design stand point.

Still I look forward to this game greatly.

Stogi · « **Reply #713 on:** August 05, 2007, 06:41:33 PM »

Well I'm glad you guys came to terms with it because I'm sick of hearing you wine about it, especially because it's something so small AND it doesn't effect how the game plays.

Mashiro · « **Reply #714 on:** August 05, 2007, 07:17:54 PM »

I personally think they should make Samus always look like this:

Kawaii! ^.^!

Chibi Metroid anyway?

or maybe Super Smash Bros. Chibi?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #715 on:** August 05, 2007, 07:30:59 PM »

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I don't care if she's blonde or not. Most of the actresses I want to play her aren't blonde... and I wouldn't be concerned if a movie version made her out to have a different hair color. Heck, I still hold dear in my heart the purple haired samus who was in the NP comics!!!

No, what I AM internet-fanboi-irrationally-complaining about is her character design, which I find strikingly unappealing, unspirited, and not necessarily "blonde," but bland.

Now i'll just go ahead and say you're nitpicking such a minor thing right off a cliff.

As far as face & body goes, they look *identical* to the style used in Brawl. Dark eyebrows, baby blue eyes, soft nose line, even EARS, even the seams on her suit, IT'S ALL THERE. The major difference being there's less polygons being used, and of course MP3 in-game isn't going to include all the blooming and shading afforded in the CG model. Cuz hey, MP3 is about traversing 3D environments, not a fighting game that can dedicate most of the system resources to just a handful of characters fighting on a 2D plane.

What else... you're comparing a shot of her eyes waking up, to a CG model of her boring workaholic face. None of the Brawl assets show anything as up-close as her eyes, only her workaholic face. And of course the MP3 clip cuts out before she brings her eyes back to what i expect is her blood-thirsty caffeine-addicted workaholic face.

As for her pony tail, I dig pony tails, so that's ok. But everything else you've exaggerated into bizarro world. Wake up already. It's the Brawl model, with less detail, and different hair. Oh, her boobs seem smaller than the Brawl model too, unfortunately.

Kairon · « **Reply #716 on:** August 05, 2007, 09:08:01 PM »

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comments about Samus' breast size

Oh, you don't want to go there. DON'T!!! ... even get me started.

j/k? Yeah... but not completely ^_^

wandering · « **Reply #717 on:** August 06, 2007, 11:22:31 AM »

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...this game is right up [Kairon's] ally.

No it isn't. This game looks like it's going to be good, and Kairon only likes bad games. (But, you might be thinking, that can't be, because he constantly praises Miyamoto games. That threw me off for a long while too, until he made a comment disparaging a gameplay mechanic of a certain game, not knowing that Miyamoto himself came up with it. This proved to me that Kairon is not really a Miyamoto fan, and can't really recognize Miyamoto's genius. In other words, every time he says he likes a Miyamoto game, he's lying.)

Stogi · « **Reply #718 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:08:45 PM »

Wow...just wow.

Kairon, you got anything to say for yourself?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #719 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:10:49 PM »

Kairon is a goober, so don't mind him.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #720 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:32:07 PM »

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It's the Brawl model, with less detail, and different hair. Oh, her boobs seem smaller than the Brawl model too, fortunately.

Fixed so bad...

ShyGuy · « **Reply #721 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:42:21 PM »

Rumor has it that MP3 is going to be in LIMITED QUANTITY. Act fast with your Gamestop preorders, NWR-ians!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177858

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #722 on:** August 06, 2007, 01:10:54 PM »

Oh Gamestop, how low will you go?

Caliban · « **Reply #723 on:** August 06, 2007, 01:46:16 PM »

What if Nintendo wants to create hype for the mainstream portion of the gaming population?

I hope this game sells at least 1 million copies...I was actually going to type in "at least 2 million copies" but I thought that would be utopian.

EasyCure · « **Reply #724 on:** August 06, 2007, 01:48:29 PM »

edited to explain myself

LMAO! wow i can't believe i finally had one of those moments.. I know its too late for excuses but i'll say this anyway...

i spent the last 10 hours moving furniture for 3 apartments, none with working elevators except mine (the last apt) and it was out so i had to bring everything us 5 floors.

I'm more than just a little burnt out

see my comments quoted below if you're late to this LOL moment

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Author Topic: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized (Read 374713 times)