Author Topic: Sony may delay PS3 (Read 13208 times)

Obiyo · « **on:** August 02, 2005, 07:26:35 PM »

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Would that give MS too much of a head start? Or would it work like the article says and kill the hype on the x360 just to come in later with the ps3 (similar to the launch of dreamcast).

Karl Castaneda #2 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2005, 07:40:30 PM »

I didn't really think they were going to make that March '06 Japanese release date, anyway. All the way to 2007, though... Hm, maybe the Revolution will have more time, then, and that's a good thing.

Unfortunately, it's still just analyst talk - I wish there were more cement facts.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2005, 07:42:13 PM »

Something tells me that "Plan B" was the original "Plan A" the entire time, but the original "Plan A" then became "Plan B" after MS decided to release in 2005, a year ahead of the usual 5yr cycle, therefore causing Sony to take "Plan X" aka 'wishful thinking' and make it into the new "Plan A", but now that they realize that the new "Plan A" aka "Plan X" aka 'wishful thinking' really was not gonna work out in thier best interest it is now time to reconsider "Plan B" aka the original "Plan A" and just stick with the original plans afterall.

does that make sense?

Obiyo · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2005, 08:03:04 PM »

it makes sense if you read it once or twice slowly...

That does sound like something sony would do... "Toy Story" graphics anyone? They hyped the cell processor so much and look what happened, they're using a separate graphics chip, as well as that the ps3 is going to be difficult to develop for because of it.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2005, 08:34:03 PM »

If anyone can delay for another year it's Sony. It's kind of ironic considering the PS2 is by far the weakest hardware but that just shows how much of a difference market share can make. It's like how the SNES launched two years after the Genesis but it didn't matter too much because Nintendo was the market leader and people were willing to wait. No one can accuse Sony of cutting a console life short then. The PS2 would be 7 years old when it gets replaced.

This would really help Nintendo who realistically are not going to be able to beat Sony to the market if the PS3 launches in the first half of 2006. Aside from the benefit of launching before Sony like they wanted Nintendo would also be able to get away with having inferior hardware like what's been rumoured. Launching later with weaker hardware is pretty lame but before is acceptable. All Nintendo has to really do is make sure the Rev is "more powerful" than the X360. It won't matter if the PS3 is more powerful if it launches last. That's normal. Latter hardware is expected to be "better".

I'm really hoping Sony does wait until 2007. Aside from the boost it would give Nintendo it also would hurt MS quite a bit as their hardware would appear to be WAY behind the PS3 in a few years.

stevey · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2005, 04:42:42 AM »

Yeah by the time the ps3 people will be so in aw of the revolution there going to forget all about the ps3

ShyGuy · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2005, 06:36:07 AM »

I bet the PS3 will be stripped down a bit by the time it comes out, and I'm guessing there will be Blu-Ray dvd players out by then.

Arbok · « **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2005, 07:50:27 AM »

I would LOVE to see this occur. Mainly due to the fact that third parties would likely still develop for the PS2, and then port over their games to the other systems. And one just knows that PS2 quality games showing up on the Xbox360 would look very bad for Microsoft.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2005, 08:21:59 AM »

IF this is true...and thats a BIG IF, then we probably have a definate idea when the Revolution will be releasing. Late 2006. Simply put Nintendo stated they were afraid they would be releasing later than Sony. I think Nintendo was predicting that Sony would launch Holiday Season 2006...and when Sony tried to move it up it really hurt Nintendo...but I also believe Nintendo never believed the March 2006 release, and so when they stated they would only be late by a small margin they were predicting more of a Summer/Fall launch for PS3.

Now, about the PS3 delay. It actually makes alot of sense. Sony has ALOT to do to prepare the market for the PS3, and launching now you would have an expensive system, that doesn't have the proper infrastructure to support the system.

However, If Sony delayed til late 2006 or even 2007 it changes the market completely. Sony can start putting Blue-Ray DVDs out and start building a market for the player, and start using resources to launch movies. This would create a desire and hype for Blue-Ray Video that just isn't present at all. That would create more buzz for the PS3 when it is launched.

If Sony launches early the buzz for Blue-Ray Video will be non-existant because there would be few titles available. It would basically be like the PSP video. Nobody really cares yet, and its hurting Sony's sales.

This is very good for Nintendo as it gives them breathing room to launch their system early, or just polish up games. And obviously it is an amazing break for Microsoft because they would have an unbeatable head start.

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BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2005, 08:22:17 AM »

MS - Xbox 2001 - X360 2005 - X720 2009? - X1080 2012?

Nin - GC 2001 - Rev 2006 - N6 2011

Sony - PS2 2000 - PS3 - 2007 - PS4 2012/2014

this is gonna really throw off the Launch wars with people having the option to upgrade a system almost every year to every other year(if the releases were to continue as the are now)

vudu · « **Reply #10 on:** August 03, 2005, 08:55:20 AM »

Hm...a $99 PS2? I might actually consider buying one for that price.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #11 on:** August 03, 2005, 09:34:27 AM »

"However, If Nintendo delayed til late 2006 or even 2007 it changes the market completely."

Nintendo cannot wait until 2007. 2006 is bad enough since there's so few Cube games left in the pipeline. I think there's going to be a period of nothing from Nintendo on the console front prior to the Rev's release. It happened with the N64 and I think the resulting six months of Nintendo being completely out or sight and mind hurt the Cube. It's looks like it's going to happen with the Cube as well. So if they wait until 2007 we could see perhaps even an entire year of Nintendo having no presence in the console market at all. That would completely screw the Rev.

If the PS3 is delayed it is a major opportunity for Nintendo and they should take advantage of it. The Rev MUST launch in 2006 and personally I think no later than September would be ideal.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2005, 11:00:05 AM »

Ian Sane: I am sorry I typed too fast and messed up my post. I meant If Sony delayed till late 2006 or 2007. If you read it like that the paragraph actually makes sense, because I was talking about Sony and the Blue-Ray movie movement.

Sorry about that. Let me try to edit it in the post as well.

stevey · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2005, 04:02:31 PM »

"MS - Xbox 2001 - X360 2005 - X720 2009? - X1080 2012?
Nin - GC 2001 - Rev 2006 - N6 2011
Sony - PS2 2000 - PS3 - 2007 - PS4 2012/2014
this is gonna really throw off the Launch wars with people having the option to upgrade a system almost every year to every other year(if the releases were to continue as the are now) "

No no there wount be a x1080 or x720 because ms is going to F the 360 because no that not hard core knows of it. Ask/tell any one that non gamer at a non gamer store about the 360 and there dont know and think you lieing because there been no 360 ad outside of the evil g4 and gaming mag and store lie about that stuff like crazy. Hell back in 02 they said the ps3 coming out in 03 and in 03 the people said the x2&ps3 come out in 04 and in 04 they said 05 hell eb had people preorder the 360 when the 360 part was a roumer. So that Why ther going to die and go to hell with the 3do

and be laugh

at by the dreamcast

. [/rant]

mantidor · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2005, 04:56:47 PM »

I cant believe there are actually people who believed the spring 2006 release, even without this recent news, I highly doubt sony will meet their deadline, or in fact the never intended to meet the deadline at all, they just mention spring of 06 to make people wait.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2005, 05:46:13 PM »

There's only one reason why Sony claimed a Spring 2006 release...To try and get potential Xbox 360 buyers to wait for a PS3...That's it, and anyone who believed Sony could actually make that date (with very little game footage to actually show for it...tech demoes aren't games) is a moron, plain and simple...

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #16 on:** August 03, 2005, 06:33:17 PM »

Bill's right...I never expected them to release before letting people actually play it at E3...

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #17 on:** August 03, 2005, 06:33:18 PM »

But we all expect for Nintendo to be able to make a Summer release of 06? (Ok, maybe that is only me...but hey I am a hopeful optimist here.

Oh well.

nickmitch · « **Reply #18 on:** August 03, 2005, 06:42:28 PM »

Well an '07 Go class of O7! would work out for nintendo as they could stop pretending to be releasing for summer of 06 and aim for a more fallish release.

Rhoq · « **Reply #19 on:** August 04, 2005, 09:09:24 AM »

Here's some more information about PS3. Even though this article doesn't give any more insight into the possible delay - it is mentioned towards the end...

"The processor in Sony's PlayStation 3 gaming console will support Apple's Mac OS X Tiger operating system according to a recent posting to Sony's UK website."

Read the full article HERE

IceCold · « **Reply #20 on:** August 04, 2005, 09:24:20 AM »

So that would be the rumoured operating system that the PS3 would have. All of this straying from games really can't come of any good.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #21 on:** August 04, 2005, 01:07:44 PM »

Actually the idea the the PS3 may have Linux or an Apple operating system is a very cool idea. If the operating system works well enough on the system then you could have a nice affordable computer to go along with your Uber expensive DVD player + Gaming System. As long as Sony doesn't take resources away from the PS3 gaming division to create movies and applications I have no problem with the additions...and in fact it may help Sony appeal to the mass market more, and to the non-gamers.

I still would rather have affordability though.

I really hope this rumor is true. If Sony gets pushed back to late 2006 or 2007 Nintendo could push ahead and release in the Summer. Even if it is a weak launch with just a few games, an early launch ahead of Sony gives Nintendo that much better of a start than launching at the same time.

A simple launch with 3 Nintendo games could be awesome:

Super Mario Revolution
Super Smash Brothers Revolution
Metroid Prime 3

If Nintendo was able to get 1 or 2 GOOD 3rd party games ready for launch, and perhaps even have that original IP game ready we would be looking at a pretty decent launch line up.

IceCold · « **Reply #22 on:** August 04, 2005, 09:32:20 PM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Actually the idea the the PS3 may have Linux or an Apple operating system is a very cool idea

It may well be "cool" but it just isn't right... The direction that Sony and MS are taking their systems is just too far away from gaming. First the whole "complete home entertainment package" thing, now this. It takes the focus away from games too much; a trend that Nintendo is trying to avoid. Not only does it tax the hardware and create a need for a more powerful console, when the power isn't being used for games, but it also strays away too much from what it should be focusing on.

Look no further than the PSP; there are more movies on the shelves than games, and there has been, what, 2 games released in 3 months? And then the software ratios fall, and the system gets used more for other things than gaming. I don't like this at all, because isn't a game console supposed to, you know, play games??

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 05, 2005, 01:00:55 AM »

PS3 - Expensive Console or Cheap Computer? you decide coming to a store near you! 2006? 2007?

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #24 on:** August 05, 2005, 05:05:29 AM »

All I am saying is that IF it is handled right the OS being on the PS3 will be looked upon as a bonus, specially if it is stable and operates good. Yes, we purests may think it is too far away from gaming.

But remember all the companies are trying to branch out and atract more attention. Nintendo is doing it by trying to enhance gaming and create something new, and potentially easier to interact with. Nintendo is also trying to create nongamer games to bring in a different market.

So we are upset and complaining that MS and Sony are doing the same, just in a different way. In my post I mentioned as long as it doesn't distract from the game development and industry. Which is the REAL problem with the PSP. Because it uses its own medium resources are somewhat limited. Do I release the PSP movie, or the PSP game? They will make the same money but one is much cheaper to produce.

Now, with blue-ray you may have that problem with the movies and games competing...but you most likely won't have any competition with computer applications and such being on the system.

You can also provide two OSes on the system. One that loads when a game is present that uses minimal resources and then the Apple or Linux OS for CPU applications.

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