Topic: Sony may delay PS3

[Bill Aurion]

What they probably plan to do is implement everything the Revolution has into the Xbox3...

[stevey]

"What they probably plan to do is implement everything the Revolution has into the Xbox3... "

so them ripoff nintendo is a good thing in your head?

[nickmitch]

If MS wasn't going to make a profit for 8+ years (by their OWN expectations) then what was the point?

MS: "Hey guys! Let's get in to the videogame industry. We won't make a profit for eight years and we'll probably make a HUGE investment only to turn out a small profit after the initial eight years, but I think it's worth it!"

It's not like they're artistic visionaries trying to get a point across or anything. They're just a corporation! I know that they're trying to take over the world, but who's going care if they don't have the cash flow to back up their athority?

[BigJim]

MS has a long term plan to own the living room, just like Sony does. They're just using video games as a start to get there, also just like Sony. heh.

[stevey]

"I know that they're trying to take over the world, "

no sony trying to take over the world, ms is trying to controll the world because they think you supid like bee buying halo 2 or ant buy the 360.

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: BigJim
MS has a long term plan to own the living room, just like Sony does. They're just using video games as a start to get there, also just like Sony. heh.

And just like Philips did with the CDi, and Panasonic did with the 3DO... long term plans change, and in high tech, its quite often. The end here is still a chance for Microsoft to make an enormous profit in some future market... but if things don't turn out like they planned, and it looks like whatever profits were supposed to come aren't going to materialize after all, don't be shocked if they cut and run in short order... the same goes for Sony.

[nickmitch]

Sony also makes electronics. With their TV's and home entertainment centers there are few things aside from furniture that Sony doesn't make that you'd want in your living room. With MS, I've got a computer and that's the end of MS's grip on my home. MS just seems to be venturing in to new territories that it doesn't belong in.

[ShyGuy]

MS desire to own the living room is  why they want Hi-Def so bad. If everyone has a HDTV, then you can read your email and  browse your web pages on your Xbox 360/720 without any squinting.

[jasonditz]

you could do that on a Dreamcast without squinting.

[zakkiel]

My main concern now is that the Xbox will have dropped enough in price by the time the Rev comes out that they'll be roughly on the same footing. Otherwise, if Nintendo can manage a late summer '06 release with a strong fall lineup leading into holiday price cuts, and Sony doesn't release until at least spring '07, Nintendo has an excellent shot. And I personally don't think Microsoft will cut prices by much, since they really are looking to make a profit this generation. No corporation in its right mind will wait on an eight-year grand scheme in an unpredictable market. So, if Rev can manage a good lineup in that first six months, (and is technically on par or slightly better than the Xbox) I think we're golden.

[couchmonkey]

I still don't think Sony is going to drop back to 2007, but I guess we'll see.  We've already seen examples of games in development, from E3 to the holiday season, there's almost two years to work with... I can see how the company might not make an early 2006 release, but I say PS3 will be available in Japan and North America by the end of 2006.

And yes, I do think both Nintendo Sony should have been ready to launch almost any time in 2006.  Microsoft has been telling people for over a year that Xbox 360 would launch in 2005, Sony should have taken that seriously.  I know that at this point its too late for Sony to change the launch of PS3 by more than a few months, but it should have been ready.  Maybe it won't matter, I've heard a lot of negative opinions about Xbox 360, but then again, maybe Microsoft will grab up 10 or 20 million users by the time Sony and Nintendo launch next year.

[IceCold]

"maybe Microsoft will grab up 10 or 20 million users by the time Sony and Nintendo launch next year"

Probably not. In fact, I don't know why so many people are predicting that the X360 will have a huge lead before the other consoles release. It's price has been revealed, and I seriously doubt that it will get THAT much of a sales advantage & people are overestimating what it will do.

[Spak-Spang]

ICECOLD:  I don't know.  Xbox 360 is kinda the mystery.

I really expect it to get a huge headstart in the United States.  US gamers are totally about having the latest and greatest despite the cost.  Everyone I have talked to that plays games has the Xbox 360 preordered or is going to buy one.  

Outside of the US I expect much slower sales.  Specially with Japan and Europe.  I just don't see Microsoft offering anything new for those markets.  It's as if Microsoft is shooting for US dominance and that is all.

Sure Microsoft has SquareEnix working on a game, but it won't be out for awhile, and by then Revolution and PS3 will probably be out or nearing release.  I don't see the Japanese chosing the Xbox over those systems at all.

I predict Microsoft could have a sold 5 Million unit head start around the world with most of that being in America.

[Bill Aurion]

I don't know...Sega had a headstart, too, and we know how THAT ended up...

[couchmonkey]

Well, I meant to emphasize the word "maybe" in my last post.  I know it's unlikely that MS will sell 10 million or more in a year, but even a 6 million system lead should be taken seriously.  It's also about momentum: if the others launch at the end of next year, Microsoft will have more than enough systems to meet demand while the others will be in limited supply, and Microsoft will probably have around 100 games to choose from while the others will have around 20-30.  That's going to make an impression.

I think the difference between Xbox 360 and Dreamcast is that Microsoft has lots of cash.  Sega did not.  I still totally agree that coming out early could kill the Xbox 360, but it's kind of a wild card.

In fact, I think this whole upcoming generation is full of wild cards.  How will Microsoft's early launch change things?  What's the secret behind Nintendo's "revolutionary" interface?  Will PS3 really overpower the other systems by a wide margin, and will it really cost that much more than the other systems?  Exciting times!

[KDR_11k]

Bill: The XBox was received better than the Saturn so the reception towards the X360 should be warmer.

[Bill Aurion]

The Dreamcast held a record for number of systems sold in the first week or something like that...

[KDR_11k]

So did the Gamecube.