Author Topic: Rev is Teh Sleek! (Read 5982 times)

Savior · « **on:** May 12, 2005, 07:28:20 PM »

Here

Sounds good

We've got a TalkBack thread now. Please discuss this fantastic news there.
http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=12484

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:31:22 PM »

Standard DVD media... there goes Blu-Ray then, it's gonna be just like Xbox360.

Savior · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:34:19 PM »

your right... but its Standard DVD Media, no more of the Anti Piracy Propiertary stuff....

which is a DRASTIC change for Nintendo.

BigJim · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:39:21 PM »

Ah ha, I was hoping for something shockingly small. Think Mac Mini.

Playing "standard DVD media" could be referring to movie playback. The game discs themselves could still be proprietary somehow (like the setup in the Panasonic Q). Frankly there's no way Nintendo would do it otherwise. They'll definitely protect their games somehow.

a. The games could be second layer-only again, this time with a 4.7GB capacity.

b. Or maybe they'll enable two layers, and use a bar code again or some form of encryption.

I think this news means we're going to see it. They wouldn't discuss the appearance if they weren't ready to show it, would they?

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:48:23 PM »

I think this news just means Nintendo's finalized a design for the Revolution.

Which means it's actually further along than I thought it would be.

Talon · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:48:33 PM »

It will play standard DVD media, that doesnt mean it wont have a Blue-Ray HD-DVD hybrid drive in it. A Blue-Ray HD-DVD hybrid drive will be backwards compatible with standard DVD media.

From this statement we know that at the very least revolution will play standard DVD media. From this one could make the assumption you will be able to play DVD movies from it as well.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:48:36 PM »

Standard DVD media could mean anything right now, so don't make false judgement...

Ian Sane · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:48:43 PM »

If Nintendo was the only one going with DVD I'd be concerned. They stuck with cartridges too long and then went with a smaller optical disc format than the competition. It seemed like they were always one step behind regarding game media. At least now they're on par with one competitor so at the very least we don't have to worry about getting wanged on 360 ports. It wasn't that big of a deal on the Cube though anyway so it's not that big of a deal here.

Though I am concerned about piracy. That was Nintendo's big advantage with the Cube. DVD burners are pretty common now. There's one of the PC I'm using right now and I don't have a super fancy machine. Piracy could hurt Nintendo precious profitablity and without that and without market share they would be sunk. But maybe that's the point. Perhaps they feel it's important to risk some of their profits for a greater market share.

I also wonder if the Rev will play DVD movies. I don't care either way but it already has the technology in it and it would silly to not include the feature in some way, even if was extra like with the Xbox. There are people who feel the feature would be important so they might as well include it to shut them up. Why lose a few sales for no reason?

I like the size of the Rev. It sounds small and portable like the Cube but because of the horizontal design it doesn't sound like it looks like a toy. "Very, very sleek" is not what I would describe the Cube's appearance as so at the very least it looks like Nintendo has learned something.

jasonditz · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:50:49 PM »

Frankly I was hoping for a return to cartridges. Nothing good can come of these optical discs

Savior · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:51:23 PM »

Unlike GameCube, the new system will play DVD's, Ms. Kaplin said, and will feature a wireless controller. It will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

From NY Times

Btw. A poster at GA Forums, who supposidly has insider info suggested days before that it would be 1.Very sleak. 2.Look like the Mac Mini...

so he was right.... he also suggested that we will see ALOT of the Revolution at E3, ALOT of Third Parties are on board and i think that Nintendo wants Western Support, Talk of an ID Software FPS At launch...

So who knows... I definetly cant wait...

BigJim · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:58:29 PM »

I edited my post above but still wanted to make the point.

Playing "standard DVD media" could be referring to just movie playback. The game discs themselves could still be proprietary somehow... like the Panasonic Q setup.

Surely Nintendo will have piracy measures in place. If there is GameCube compatibility already built-in, it could very well borrow the same method.

mantidor · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:59:15 PM »

so who else is totally amazed by the awesome timing of this!? first everyone gets dissapointed of the 360, then they came out with this? This is such a weird position for me right now, when I came to the thread I expect to actually have to defend Nintendo for going with DVD instead of the HD-DVD Blue ray thing... maybe Im already used to have to defend my beloved Ninty everywhere including fan forums?

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:59:25 PM »

Wasn't the whole point of Blu-Ray to be able to store the massive amounts of data needed for high-def?

So long as it plays high-def, I'm not too worried. What's this "new class" though? Hopefully they're referring to HD vs. non-HD and not Inferior-Nintendo-HD Vs. HD.

I like the wireless controller too... give me a wavebird with rumble type of controller and I'll be ecstatic.

But wait... can't find this on NYtimes.com.

""Very, very sleek" is not what I would describe the Cube's appearance as so at the very least it looks like Nintendo has learned something."

This is coming from Jedi Master Kaplan though, so who knows. I'd like Reggie to comment on this. I want my Reggie quotes!

"so who else is totally amazed by the awesome timing of this!? first everyone gets dissapointed of the 360, then they came out with this?"

I know... it's like all of a sudden the MS and Nintendo marketing divisions decided to switch jobs for a day.

Savior · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:59:57 PM »

Thats a valid point....

how did the Panasonic Q work? exactly did it have two disk drives? Ive never seen one in person.

its certainly interesting seing on how its going to be tiny...

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But wait... can't find this on NYtimes.com.

Times

mantidor · « **Reply #14 on:** May 12, 2005, 08:03:20 PM »

I think that the GC disks are just mini-DVDs, its the same technology with smaller media

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #15 on:** May 12, 2005, 08:08:14 PM »

There's word that Kaplan was misquoted on the media...She may have said "DVD-sized media" (as opposed to GC GOD-disc-sized media)

BigJim · « **Reply #16 on:** May 12, 2005, 08:12:18 PM »

Savior's link is broken:

Linky

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Perrin Kaplan, Nintendo's vice president for corporate affairs, said GameCube's successor would be "very, very sleek." She described it as horizontal and no taller than a stack of three DVD cases.

Unlike GameCube, the new system will play DVD's, Ms. Kaplin said, and will feature a wireless controller. It will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

I guess we gotta wait to see if she was quoted right.

Savior · « **Reply #17 on:** May 12, 2005, 08:12:46 PM »

Never the less.... i still want to see this... what time is it on tuesday? boy ive got a test on Wednesday and im bound to flunk if im paying more attention to this stuff... oh its worth it!

Talon · « **Reply #18 on:** May 12, 2005, 08:14:53 PM »

The panasonic Q had one disk drive, and its laser could read both DVD's and gamecube optical disks (proprietry format made by nintendo)

If thats the case i couldnt see why the revolution couldnt do something similar.

Savior · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2005, 08:19:29 PM »

And a third for BC? all in a tiny tiny system?

unless the Laser for Rev games is the same as GC games?

Talon · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2005, 08:24:40 PM »

To the consumer (unless you are a pirate), revolution media really shouldnt matter. Nintendo may have found a way to beef up the gamecube optical disks capacity and use that for revolution.

The only people who are going to whinge bitch and moan about that are developers like Square-Enix who use alot of FMV and dont want their games to span multiple disks.

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