Topic: Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)

[nickmitch]

What if it's a fake Reggie?
Evil twins anyone?

[Rhoq]

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Originally posted by: TVman
What if it's a fake Reggie?

They are all fake.

But it provides some great comic relief.
 

[Spak-Spang]

I agree that the confession sounds fake.  The story and apology sounds wierd.  Why would you actually apologize and explain  yourself completely to strangers that you just happened to come accross.

[Savior]

New IGN update and no Broken Saints new story... so  the Aries myth lives on!  

[Truthliesn1seyes]

Looks like Aries is shedding some light on the guts of the REV....

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Aries said: "Anyway, to clear some other things up: the final design for the Revolution hasn’t been decided upon yet. At least, not as far as we know over here. So this could mean that they’ll actually show some prototype of the final design at E3, just like they did with the DS last year. Of course we have an SDK, but that machine probably wont look like the final design either. Just like with the current SDK’s for the Xbox 360.

As for specs, since you seem to be really privy on them, the Revolution will indeed support both 720p as well as 1080i. The GPU of the console packs quite a punch. It’s actually two cores linked together with ATi’s alternative on nVidia’s SLI. Though no releasedate has probably been determined yet by Nintendo (current releasedate looks to be around March next year in Japan), this could mean that Revolution will be the first device to support this ATi technology. Even before they introduce it to the PC market.

Now the cores themselves are completely custom-made by a different team than the core for the Xbox 360. It’s known as the RN520, where the N actually stands for Nintendo. One core in itself, isn’t as fast as the R500-ish core of the Xbox 360, but together they are quite a bit more powerful. The CPU consists of four cores each running at 2,5 GHz and is based on the G5 architecture. Each core has it’s own 128KB L1 cachememory, and they all share a L2 cache of 512KB. Next to this, the CPU and GPU share 512MB of memory, just like the Xbox 360 does. Also, the GPU has it’s own on-die memory for quick tasks which amounts to 16MB of eDRAM.

There’s also a seperate processor for sound, which is quite advanced and takes a lot of workload off the CPU. Last but not least, the Revolution features a PPU for complex physics, which utilizes it’s own 32MB of memory. So all in all, it’s quite the complex machine with many different processors. Still, it’s rather easy to develop for because of the excellent development tools which Nintendo delivered. These are all GameCube based with a lot of completely new features built-in." .

[mantidor]

If you look further, this guys confesses he inpersonated Aries and posted that just to prove how easy is to decieve anyone, then the "real" Aries again says he did not post that.

I have to say, that if this guy  Aries is just lying, hes doing one hell of a job, hes really well informed on every rumor and official statment about the Revolution and has been very consistent about it.

[Savior]

This stuff is soo good because its possible. none of it is blatantly fake... no NINTENDO BUYS SEGA TEH Never Happening.... its all realistic information... The skeptic in me says it sounds too good, and he knows too much.... (Inlcuding now system specs?) but "Brooke"didnt unseat him, and the real Brooke for some reason hasnt checked his IP


HE should since its the most popular log in his whole page.

[mantidor]

read above, the specs are fake, they guy who did it actually admitted it, Id love to point it out the specific comment, but in that blog is now impossible to find anything without wasting a good half an hour.

[Grant10k]

well, he's spilled some technical details,

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Each core has it’s own 128KB L1 cachememory, and they all share a L2 cache of 512KB. Next to this, the CPU and GPU share 512MB of memory, just like the Xbox 360 does. Also, the GPU has it’s own on-die memory for quick tasks which amounts to 16MB of eDRAM.

this will prove if he's on the 'inside' as soon as the specs (which arn't that important anyway) are released. So now we can prove him right or wrong (when I say now, I mean in 1-12 months)

As for the Aries posting the apology and stuff, come on. How often do you spot a fake on the internet, yell "hA><zorz" and get a full confession? WITH explanation and motive? NEVERS

EDIT: unless this spec aeris is fake too...gaw, all these problems could have been solved had aeris simpley first posted on a board with a password entry box.

[Savior]

So theres multiple Aries and Multiple Brookes?

[mantidor]

why do I have to say this THREE times!? the guy who posted the specs actually confessed two post below he did it just to see how easy was to inpersonate Aries, unless the guy who confess wasnt telling the truth, but that honestly is strething it too much........or is not?  

[Savior]

Well now its just plain impossible to know what to belive  

[Djunknown]

As somebody else before me said, this is re-god-damn-diculous.  Too much BS, too much "I didn't say that, someone else posing as me did..." crap, its out of control. I'm going to heed the words that Flava Flav once said: Don't Believe the Hype.

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Last but not least, the Revolution features a PPU for complex physics, which utilizes it’s own 32MB of memory.

I read an article the other day that one company is planning to sell PPU's (Or physics porcessing unit) for PC's. From my understanding, this is a very,very recent phenomenon. As in no game today or in the near future is going to use this feature. Xbox 360 won't have this feature, nor  most likey the PS3. Why would Nintendo then, try to be more of a PC, using technology that hasn't been tested yet? Sounds like another bag of BS until confimed otherwise.... *waits for Kdr_11k to debunk supposed hardware specs*

If nothing else, it stirs the rumor pot a little, and gives a bored bank employee some creative freedom. I guess he was never taught to cry wolf as a kid. If he can make believable rumors, why stay at the bank? Some gaming mag or site should pick this guy up, he knows how to hype things up....

EDIT: Some *gasp* evidence from a credible source about how new PPU's are:Read the last paragraph

"The PhysX chip, AGEIA's flagship product, is the gaming industry's first physics processing unit. According to the company, it is a processor dedicated to performing complicated calculations in games, often applied to realistically representing bodies falling from buildings or cars careening off bridges."

[Caillan]

Devoted physics chips are the upcomming gaming hardware right now. They're still very rare, but they'll likely become standard sometime in the future. AFAIK, the very first physics chips for PCs are being manufactured now.

It doesn't strike me as a very Nintendo-ey thing to do, but putting a physics chip in the Revolution could only be a good thing.  

[KDR_11k]

I was already wondering at that "ATi SLI" stuff. If you've seen reviews of how SLI works you'd notice it's only a slight performance boost at very high cost. Not Nintendo's style. Though I'm not sure, ATi could have come up with an idea that stupid. But really, SLI when you've got the cores in a custom machine instead of having to link two cards through some PC general purpose part?
The PPU stuff also looked fake (game support has nothing to do with this but new tech like that isn't exactly cheap), as did the core count of the CPU. Why four cores? Because MS uses two? Easy to program would be true for any system with no redundant parts (i.e. no real parallelism of identical tasks necessary) so a number of specific chips on there wouldn't complicate much since it's still clear what instruction goes where (debugging gets more complicated though), as opposed to a cluster of all-purpose processors like the Cell where it's not trivial to say what is executed where and what data rates you have to expect at what point in the process.

As for the PS3 not having a PPU, that's not exactly true, the Cell should be able to help out with that a lot, even though it's not explicitely labelled a PPU.

[PaLaDiN]

After the first impersonator popped up I figured if the real Brooke had something to say he'd say it on the main site.

Turns out I was right... everything you've read on those forums is BS, people. And I don't mean Broken Saints.

Launching a fake forum though... wow. That's pretty dedicated.

[Truthliesn1seyes]

Well it is getting out of hand and hard to follow but I'd go so far as to say that alot of what has been rumored in there will probably come true.  A new Smash brothers will happen, I wouldn't doubt that Squareenix is making a game for the rev, the info on the controllers are also believable.  As for the online service, I'm sure that the speculation isn't that far off from the truth.  

Remember, theres always some truth from every rumor.  Rumors are derived from the truth.  The truth might not be in such a grand scale but it'll be there.  I wouldn't be suprised if alot of what this Aries has said turns out to be true sooner or later.

[Bill Aurion]

*Never mind, it's back up*

[KDR_11k]

Rumors aren't derived from truth, rumors are just blatant lies that get repeated. Since the overwhelming majority agrees that it's gyro control I'll call that a quasi-fact, though. Remember, people widely rumored the DS to have a touchscreen.

[Truthliesn1seyes]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Rumors aren't derived from truth, rumors are just blatant lies that get repeated. Since the overwhelming majority agrees that it's gyro control I'll call that a quasi-fact, though. Remember, people widely rumored the DS to have a touchscreen.

I guess we were both wrong, not all rumors are derived from truth but not all are just blatant lies.  You've proved it yourself when you said people widely rumored the DS to have a touchscreen.  That line proves my point that rumors are derived from fact.  I understand though that some could easily come straight out of the imagination.  

[IceCold]

Well, if you put together every single rumour about the revolution and write it on one page, then add some software info (quite a bit of which is obvious), then you're bound to have at least a few truthful statements

[Truthliesn1seyes]

No, I beg to difer, what he said was "rumors are just blatant lies that get repeated"  What he said was a quasi fact was in regards to gyros being in the controller.  We were both wrong in just stating things in such a one sided way.  I'd agree, not all rumors come from truth but not all are just blatant lies.  Anyways, back to the rumor mongering lol (if thats spelled right)

A little off topic but something just hit me with the talk of Square and Camelot making original rpgs is that I would love both Camelot and Square to try and establish new rpg franchises on Nitnendo's systems. Given that Nintendo's systems rarely get rpgs, let alone a progressive series (FF 7,8,9 or Suikoden 1,2,3,4) to sustain a fanbase, their systems would be the best to start off something new and fresh. A new franchise on playstation could get overshadowed with the anticipation for the followup of DQ or FF or any of thier countless established series.

[Grant10k]

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Originally posted by: mantidor
why do I have to say this THREE times!? the guy who posted the specs actually confessed two post below he did it just to see how easy was to inpersonate Aries, unless the guy who confess wasnt telling the truth, but that honestly is strething it too much........or is not?

Because the first time you said it, you could have been talking about the confession, the second time I had already started typing when you wrote your reply, and the third beause everyone is fake.

[mantidor]

I know, I know, its fun to read anyway ^_^

[zakkiel]

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Since the overwhelming majority agrees that it's gyro control I'll call that a quasi-fact, though.

All those people are basing their opinions on the same flimsy piece of evidence. The more I think about it, the more suspicious I become.