Topic: Revolution Secret 'Leaked' At Brokensaints (SPOILER)

[Famicom]

Who's to say this Aries guy isn't a plant by Nintendo? The fanboyism, the Nintendo forums plug, the very mentioning of Ourcolony.net like tactics? As Brooke said, no one not on the inside would know this much stuff even with friends on the inside, who'd most likely be NDA'ed up the arsehole to begin with. It's a good way to get the rumor mill churning for some E3 buzz.

Real or not, I'm going to TRY and block most of this info out so I can jump up and down at the E3 press conference like I did last year when the Zelda trailer came up.

[Ian Sane]

"Who's to say this Aries guy isn't a plant by Nintendo?"

That's possible I guess.  Nintendo has a real mindshare problem.  A lot of people are already ignoring the Revolution before it's even debuted.  So creating a bit of an internet buzz would be a pretty good way to attract attention to an E3 presentation they might otherwise have not shown much interest in.

Someone on N-Sider made up an interesting point in regards to how this guy is able to reveal all this stuff without Nintendo coming in and kicking his ass.  If they bust him we'll know that he knew something.  By not even acknowledging it we don't know what's real or not.  Even denying something gives us some information.  Knowing what the Rev isn't is knowledge in itself.

[couchmonkey]

If this were a plant by Nintendo, and if Revolution lived up to everything he's saying at E3, it would be very cool.  I was thinking the same thing, but, it doesn't really seem like Nintendo's style, does it?  Of course, Reggie doesn't seem like Nintendo's style either, and this seems to be up his alley.

Aries is the God of war, correct?  Reggie likes a fight.  OMH! IT'S REGGIE!!!  Nah, more likely this guy wanted a name to suit the crapstorm he planned to start.

[Savior]

Well hes posting anonymously so i dont see how they could trully catch him... hes posted very litle of his current company and his current game


and Sega seems to be subsidizing and publishing American games from other companies like Matrix Online.... i could see the same situation happening here.,

[Bill Aurion]

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Aries is the God of war, correct?

Ares is the Greek god of war, not Aries...

Aries is the ram astrological sign...

[Spak-Spang]

It will never die...this may be the most fun 3 weeks leading up to E3 of any year!!!

[Galford]

This thread is very interesting, I don't know if this info is true,
but let me tell you a little story...

I interned at IBM some years ago during the summer of 2000.  During the course of a company event, I got talking to an EE.  During the course of the conversation I learned lot's about his job and what like to do, namely, videogames.  Since we both liked videogames, we started talking about Project Dolphin.  

Anyways, he told me something about Dolphin which wasn't publicly known at the time, namely that Dolphin would use 1T-SRAM as it's main memory.
Needless to say, I didn't believe him so I kept my mouth shut on the Internet.  Couple months later when Dolphin became Gamecube, he was proven right.  He gave a scoop and I didn't even know it.

Moral of the story,
you would be surprised what lonely enigneers have to say when they have no one to talk too all day.

I don't what else to post.  Nintendo is being really quite right now.

[mantidor]

now that I remember, didnt we have our own guy with info? Noble Feather claimed to have some Rev information, I wonder what he has to say about this... or has he already said anything? because I didnt found any posts by him/her.

[mjbd]

I remember back when Gamecube was called Project Dolphin, there was this website called NintendoNext, and he would start rumors.  It didnt take long before no one believed him, but thats why I am so skeptical of any rumors posted on message boards.  I would like to believe that we are getting accurate info, but at the same time I doubt that we are.  I just wish there was some kind of Nintendo news to talk about, I guess this is the dry spell before E3.  Even if Revolution isnt playable at E3, I hope they have a showing like they did with Gamecube at Spaceworld 2000.

[Spak-Spang]

How big is Broken Saints as a messageboard?  Does it have more or less traffic than IGN's boards or Planetgamecubes?  The reason I ask is, a Nintendo plant would go to a board that would have enough traffic to get the word out...unless the board allowed for more private posting like Broken Saints does...which is still a weak arguement.

I wonder what this followup story is going to be about at IGN.

I want to believe...I want to see Nintendo throw some weight around and make some big investments as well as take a big enough risk this generation to gain marketshare back...and really that is what most of these rumors are about.  Nintendo doing something radical enough to push themselves ahead of the competition.  

New system with revolutionary controls.
Potential 3D display.
Acquiring small development houses.
Creating more mature games.

These things are all are dreams come true.

[Famicom]

I don't think they have a board, or else these posts wouldn't be coming from blog responses. And the thought of a plant going there isn't that farfetched considering that that site has been the hotbed of Rev attention ever since Brooke came out and said he'd expose the secret. It also wouldn't be too farfetched to say that Brooke himself isn't in on the plant as well, and its a whole thing they got going over there (he did say he had some game industry ties himself now). But all this is really reaching deep into conspiracy theories.

Like everyone else has said, it would be sweet if it were all true, but I'm not holding my breath. I do however, eagerly await Gamespots forthcoming rumor report and IGN's Nintendo minute of the week to mull over these in some fashion.

EDIT: Well I just noticed that they do have forums, but I'll still stand by my point of it not being that important.

[couchmonkey]

Darn you Bill, for exposing my ignorance!  It was just a crazy fanboy theory anyway.  (Face saved: 35%  Face saved after printing percentage of face saved: 2%)

The part about acquiring small devs discredits him a bit, in my mind.  I think Nintendo wants to get away from that business model and do more collaborating with third parties instead.  I can't see Nintendo returning to the second party model just a year after letting Silicon Knights loose.  Still, it's fun to read this and day-dream.

[Truthliesn1seyes]

Looks like the real Brooke got on and said he hasn't been on the blogs for a week so the other "brooke" was lieing when he said their was going to be a story today on IGN.  The plot thickens lol  

[Spak-Spang]

ARG!!!

The madness never ends.  I don't know what is going on with that forum...but please.  They need to have some more control over user ids on that site.  Then it would be much easier to understand what is going on.

Right now we have the:

The Real Brooke
The Fake Brooke
The Real Aries
The Fake Aries

Now the Real Brooke comes on and starts talking about a 3D display.  He must have some credability because IGN runs with the rumor for a story.  Now comes Real Aries and starts talking rumors about Nintendo.  Apparently this is where it gets tricky.  Now some point Fake Aries starts to make more elaborate rumors and either real Brooke of Fake Brooke starts to call him out and start fights.

Now this is where it gets confusing.  What did Fake Aries say and what did Real Aries say...and the same with Brooke.  

It's too confusing to know what is going on.

Perhaps there is an information leak here, but nobody can know for sure.  HA!!!

[zakkiel]

Of course, any or all of them could be lying, which is why you'd do better to consult a Ouija (sp?) board than listen to them.

[Savior]

That makes sense... but the real Brooke or Admns... could still check Areies IP....  

[Spak-Spang]

Well another layer of complexity could be that there may or may not really be a fake Aries.  See the fact is the only reason we know there is a fake Aries is because the real Aries stated someone was trying to discredit him and such.

So he could have easily covered his bottom for spilling rumors that were so unbelievable people weren't listening anymore.  

It is what I would do.  

[Bill Aurion]

Perhaps, but when you know your stuff (like Aries does) there's no point...Why would Aries make at least logical sense, then say "Oh hey I got WaveRace screenies" and then not long after talk about how stupid it would be to do anything like that?  (And it's obvious there are MULTIPLE fake Aries considering they all have different diction and grammatical patterns)

[mantidor]

omg I didnt thought of that posibility, the plot thickens... even more!

[mjbd]

# Aries Says:
April 28th, 2005 at 12:48 am

Well…

It seems the cat’s out of the bag, so to speak. Brooke is right, and I’ve pretty much been exposed.

I do work at a branch of Fifth National Bank, and I was very bored. I apologize for deceiving you all, but I did it for two reasons:
1) To alleviate the monotony of my job here.
2) To stir up some controversy and garner some attention for Nintendo’s new console.

I’ve been a long-time Nintendo fan. I wasn’t lying when I said that I’m a gamer just like all of you; I play games whenever I get a chance. I desperately want Nintendo to succeed because I know they are far too talented in game development to let it all go. But lately, sales have been dwindling along with the mainstream image of Nintendo as a whole.

I had been excited about the Revolution ever since I heard of it a year ago. Wondering…what IS this so-called “revolutionary” feature? Will it boost sales? Will people finally recognize Nintendo they way they used to in the era of the SNES?

Naturally, then, I became very excited about E3 2005 and the rumored unveiling of the Revolution. Then a couple weeks ago, I read a news story that greatly disappointed me: Iwata said he does not plan to show it at E3.

I was pretty angry, but it did spark my imagination. I had all of these “wouldn’t it be cool if…?” and “If I was only a developer for Nintendo…” ideas. I wrote some of them down and considered emailing Nintendo, but of course I knew that it would do no good.

I eventually ended up at this blog and all the Revolution info in it. I was originally going to post a comment simply explaining my ideas…but just for the hell of it, I pretended I was a game developer. I ran with it and continued posting, fully conveying all of my hopes and dreams into writing. But that’s all they were: dreams.

Nevertheless, E3 is still approaching and Nintendo may surprise us yet. Who knows? Maybe some of my ideas will actually be implemented. Believe me, I want the Revolution to be awesome just as much as you all do.

The End, I hope.



Not suprised to say the least.

[Bill Aurion]

Keep looking farther down than that post...From what it looks like, that reply was done by a fake Aries...

[Famicom]

If it wasn't 3 weeks to E3 I'd probably be annoyed by all this, but I can't help it finding this conspiracy stuff extremely entertaning.

[Ian Sane]

The "confession" has this sort of whiny tone to it that's very different then anything Aries has posted before.  The only person who can post whiny emotional rants one second and logical analysis the next is ME.

[MattVDB]

IAN IS Agentseven Aries!  It's official.

Heh.  I don't know what any of this means, or what to believe or what.  Personally all that I've let these rumors do for me is get me stoked for what Nintendo will unveil.  I look at these rumors as fake, so I'm not putting anything on Nintendo, and just can't wait to be shocked again.  LOZ last year people?  I mean Hello.  Who thought they would actually do that?  Exactly.  I think they are listening.

[Rhoq]

#  Reggie F. Says:
April 29th, 2005 at 12:02 pm

I am here to let you all know that only, and I mean ONLY, close Nintendo personnel really know anything about the Revolution. They have all signed non disclosure acts, so anything anybody here says, whether it is brooke or aries, is PURE SPECULATION. Only Nintendo knows, and we will reveal some of our surprises for you on May 17, 9am PST.