Topic: Official DS Sales Thread

[vudu]

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ARMORED CORE 4 360 2000
ARMORED CORE 4 PS3 1400

A 360 game sold more than the PS3 counterpart?  Unheard of.  (Although, the sales are so low does it even matter?)

[IceCold]

NSMB is over 5 million in Japan now. Incredible.  

[IceCold]

THE FORUM IS SWALLOWING OUR POSTS! SOMEONE SAVE US!

[Mario]

Sorry guys but I need to rant at the PSP again. Last weeks Media Create hardware

1. NDS   -    97,369
2. PSP   -    96,159
3. WII   -    84,530

DS has about a million games in the top 30, even Wii has heaps, PSP has basically no games there ever, yet it sells like this? I flat out do NOT believe it. If this is the case then PSP is the worst thing to EVER happen to the videogame industry. Sony has to be paying off someone to make up these numbers, or even further paying people to buy PSPs in a scheme to get Monster Hunter 3 to be ported to PSP. I do not believe the piracy numbers are THAT high, and that so many people are willing to invest so much in that ugly piece of crap just to play NES games. Lowlifes buying it to watch porn on is a possibility, but aren't there a million cell phones that can do that too? Could PSP be $5 there? This is the most dodgy thing i've ever seen. 3 in 4 new PSP owners are buying NO games with it. Can ANYONE explain it? We have to get to the bottom of this

[Urkel]

Reggie's buying up PSPs to even things out a little cuz he's getting bored of all this one-sided ass kicking.

[Chozo Ghost]

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Originally posted by: Mario
Sorry guys but I need to rant at the PSP again. Last weeks Media Create hardware



1. NDS   -    97,369

2. PSP   -    96,159

3. WII   -    84,530



DS has about a million games in the top 30, even Wii has heaps, PSP has basically no games there ever, yet it sells like this? I flat out do NOT believe it. If this is the case then PSP is the worst thing to EVER happen to the videogame industry. Sony has to be paying off someone to make up these numbers, or even further paying people to buy PSPs in a scheme to get Monster Hunter 3 to be ported to PSP. I do not believe the piracy numbers are THAT high, and that so many people are willing to invest so much in that ugly piece of crap just to play NES games. Lowlifes buying it to watch porn on is a possibility, but aren't there a million cell phones that can do that too? Could PSP be $5 there? This is the most dodgy thing i've ever seen. 3 in 4 new PSP owners are buying NO games with it. Can ANYONE explain it? We have to get to the bottom of this

I wouldn't underestimate the piracy element. Also, doesn't Japan have some TV adapter, phone adapter, and a GPS thing for the PSP? Maybe  people are buying it for those reasons, and to surf the net. Maybe even type up business reports and do spreadsheets on it too. *shrug*

I guess another possibility is that Sony is buying its inventory back and reshipping it so that it inflates the numbers and makes the PSP look like a successful system, when actually it isn't. Or maybe they are just reporting shipments instead of sales figures again... *shrug*

[BlackNMild2k1]

Japan has a rather large used game market. Not that PSP owners are buying any games to return to then be re-bought as used, but some of the old games may be getting recycled through all the PSP owners, until all 30 copies of whatever has sold has been owned at one time or another by every PSP owner.

Also don't forget that all the PSP Phat owners are also upgrading to the PSP Slim so that they can use the TV-Out option.

TV-tuner, GPS, phone adapter, Piracy, etc etc. have already been mentioned, but I can't think of any other excuses.

Maybe Sony is having some sort of mail-in rebate where you buy one PSP Slim and get on for FREE.

[Mario]

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I wouldn't underestimate the piracy element. Also, doesn't Japan have some TV adapter, phone adapter, and a GPS thing for the PSP? Maybe people are buying it for those reasons, and to surf the net. Maybe even type up business reports and do spreadsheets on it too. *shrug*

Well DS can do most of that stuff too, and there was a DS redesign as well but it still sells lots of games. The used game market is an interesting point I never thought of and could explain it.

[Chozo Ghost]

But used games can't be the explanation, because that would be just as applicable to the DS (as well as all other systems). That is, unless PSP owners are more likely to buy used games and then return them than owners of other systems.... but why would that be?

I think BlackNMild is right... people are still upgrading their PSP Phats. But if that's the explanation, why are they bothering to upgrade and still not buy games? Something is definitely fishy here, and given Sony's past dishonesty I wouldn't be surprised if they've been fudging the numbers up somehow.

[BlackNMild2k1]

PSP Slim has TV-Out & PSP also uses Mem-Sticks to hold photos, videos, movies, games, music, etc. etc. etc.
With your now upgraded PSP Slim you can now display all of that on your Big Screen TV for all to see.
Why would you need to buy games?
You probably already have them all on your mem-sticks along with all our other media that you care to use your PSP for.

[Mario]

PSP games being crap would explain why everyone returns them.

[Chozo Ghost]

You have to admit the PSP is especially prone to piracy because unlike other systems you don't need to chip it or anything. All it needs is a firmware thing. Aside from that, the PSP is already piracy enabled. The portability factor is also great, because now you can take your pirated games with you on the go.

Another reason why we shouldn't underestimate piracy, is because it is extremely widespread. Almost everyone who has ever touched a computer has pirated something at one time or another, even if it was just an MP3. So its not like this would be limited to just a handful of computer geeks living in their parent's basement. Even grandma and grandpa know how to pirate these days.

[SalesBot]

Famitsu 01/14 - 01/20

1.Wii Fit 108,000 (1,114,000)
2.Mario & Sonic DS 91,000
3.Mario Party DS 38,000 (1,531,000)
4.Wii Sports  31,000 (2,664,000)
5.Wii Play 19,000 (2,139,000)
6.Monster Hunter Portable 2 18,000 (1,569,000)
7.Layton 2 17,000 (714,000)
8.Mario & Sonic Wii 17,000 (474,000)
9.Mario Galaxy 17,000 (844,000)
10.Mario Party 8 15,000 (1,154,000)

11.Mario Kart 14,000 (2,796,000)
12.Final Fantasy IV 11,000 (559,000)
13.School Days 11,000
14.Dragon Quest IV 10,000 (1,150,000)
15.Layton 1 10,000 (813,000)
16.New Super Mario Bros 10,000 (5,061,000)
17.Animal Crossing 10,000 (4,564,000)
18.Winning Eleven 2008 PS2 9,600 (605,000)
20.Rune Factory 2 8,800 (83,000)
21.Minna no Golf Portable 2 8,000 (202,000)
23.Call Of Duty 4 PS3 7,800 (58,000)
24.Star Ocean First Departure 7,700 (183,000)
25.Pawapoke10 7,700 (215,000)
26.Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!) 7,500 (103,000)
27.More Brain Training 7,200 (4,823,000)
29.Household Diary 6,600, (403,000)
30.Literature Collection 6,600 (182,000)

...Drift Nights PS2 3,900
...Sonic Riders 3,700
...Trauma Center 2 3,100
...Drift Nights 360 1,400
...From the Abyss 1,200

DSL 91,000
Wii 76,000
PSP 65,000
PS2 13,000
PS3 32,000
360 4,400  

[SalesBot]

Famitsu 01/21 - 01/27

1.[WII] Wii Fit 96,000 (1,209,000)
2.[PSP] Winning Eleven UE2008 70,000
3.[PS2] Lucky Star 61,000
4.[NDS] Mario & Sonic DS 54,000 (145,000)
5.[WII] Wii Sports 28,000 (2,692,000)
6.[NDS] Mario Party DS 26,000 (1,557,000)
7.[PSP] Yggdra Union 22,000
8.[NDS] Doraemon Baseball 22,000 (141,000)
9.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 15,000 (1,584,000)
10.[WII] Wii Play 14,000 (2,153,000)

11.Mario & Sonic Wii 13,000(488,000)
12.Mario Kart DS 13,000 (2,809,000)
13.Layton 2 (727,000)
14.Tennis no Oujisama: Driving Smash! Side King DS 12,000
15.Mario Party 8 9,400 (1,163,000)
16.Super Mario Galaxy 9,100 (853,000)
17.Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!) 8,500 (111,000)
18.Layton 1 8,500 (821,000)
19.Dragon Quest IV 8,000 (1,158,000)
20.Minna no Golf Portable 2 8,000 (210,000)
21.Power Pocket Pro Kun 10 DS 7,900 (223,000)
22.Animal Crossing DS 7,700 (4,572,000)
24.New Super Mario Bros 7,500 (5,069,000)
25.Household Diary 7,100 (410,000)
26.Winning Eleven 2008 PS2 7,100 (612,000)
27.Call Of Duty 4 PS3 7,100 (65,000)
28.Final Fantasy IV 6,300 (565,000)
29.Flash Focus 6,100 (772,000)
30.More Brain Training 5,900 (4,829,000)

...Exit DS 5,500
...Drift Nights: Juiced 2 PS3 5,000
...The Sims 2 Castaway DS 3,000
...TOCA 750

Wii 79,000
DSL 74,000
PSP 61,000
PS3 29,000
PS2 11,000
360 4,200  

[Chozo Ghost]

Media Create doesn't have NSMB on it at all, but here on Famitsu it is lingering on at 24 with a piddly 7,500 sold during the week. Whichever source is correct, I fear that game's reign of terror has come to an end.

[nitsu niflheim]

to come back in three-four weeks to land at number one again! =D

[BlackNMild2k1]

BOth sources are as corrct as the other, jthey just track slightly different sources more accuarately.
But I'm sure NSMB will get another Big boost from the next big game that draws people into the stores.
(Japan is playing SSBB as we speak, maybe a few DS's were picked up along with NSMB... or maybe not)

[Chozo Ghost]

Now that NSMB is waning in popularity it might be a good time for Nintendo to start considering NSMB2. A 5 million+ seller in Japan alone absolutely warrants a sequel.

[ShyGuy]

ATTENTION. I have found a clue as to why the PSP sells so well in Japan yet has very little game sales. From, of all things, an interview with Hiro Nakamura:

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Were you able to check out what's new in games in Japan?

I found some PlayStation 3 titles in Japan that I'm looking forward to. The Thousand Day War looked really good. They also had a lot of interesting Nintendo DS stuff, which made me want to use my DS more. In Japan, if you have a PSP, it's more than just a gaming device. You can download all of this stuff. In America, you don't have that. And in Japan you have so many mobile applications that we don't have here.

http://videogames.yahoo.com/celebrity-byte/masi-oka/1178124  

[SalesBot]

Famitsu 01/28 -02/03

1. SSBB (Wii) - 800k
2. DMC4 (PS3) - 210k
3. Haruhi (PS2) - 100k
4. Tales of Destiny (PS2) - 97k
5. WiiFit (Wii)
6. Disgaiea 3 (PS3) - 56k
7. DMC4 (360) - 40k
8. Assassin Creed (PS3) - 37k
9. Mario & Sonic: At the Olympics (DS)
10. WE 11: PES 2008 (PSP)

Family Ski - 24k

Wii - 100k
PS3 - 36k
X360 - 5800

[Louieturkey]

Only 1 DS game in the top 10?!  When was the last time that happened?  Or the last time less than 4 DS games were in the top 10?

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: SalesBot
Famitsu 01/28 -02/03
1. SSBB (Wii) - 800k

To quote Frank Gallagher of Shameless... "Massive!"

[ShyGuy]

Apparently Kairon posted in this thread, but I can't read it. I'm guessing this because the thread has grown too long.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Change your amount of post per page and you will be able to see, you can always change it back later.
its another glitch in the system.

[Chozo Ghost]

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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Only 1 DS game in the top 10?!  When was the last time that happened?  Or the last time less than 4 DS games were in the top 10?

This confirms the DS was just a fad, and that people in Japan have finally realized the touch screen was just a gimmick. Took them 4 years, but better late than never, I suppose.